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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2173794 times)

Offline IMIGHTKNOW

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4725 on: March 18, 2023, 05:45:28 AM »
1908 patent can in no way be the egg of Columbus as they were referring to the 1902 series of patents. The very structure of the two rows of opposing electromagnets with a secondary in between and the inductive controller with a motor, rotating brush or brushes and commutator would make it impossible to look like the egg of Columbus. But that is just my opinion. ;D

I just happen to agree with some people in the past that they are opposing as it is impossible to vary a north and a south electromagnet as they will always form one field. Raising one north and lowering a south nets you a week magnet at best through tests that can be conducted by anyone. I did and they never achieved a high forced between them even with DC let alone AC which this device is not.

If you were to have opposing electromagnets it would allow you to compress the field lines substantially then raise one and lower the other which according to physics align the electric field. Of course the magnetic field stay opposing at all times. I honestly believe no one has compressed the field lines enough yet to get something substantial. On a physics standpoint is is entirely viable.

I think the reason he named then set N and set S is because of reference to his controller which he mentions a northern hemisphere and a southern hemisphere or upper and lower hemisphere. So logically I assumed at first it meant that set n and set s were north and south electromagnets but after much study he just named them after his controller halves while in reality they are opposing electromagnets.

Just my two cents worth lol!  ;D


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4726 on: March 18, 2023, 06:31:07 AM »
1908 patent can in no way be the egg of Columbus as they were referring to the 1902 series of patents. The very structure of the two rows of opposing electromagnets with a secondary in between and the inductive controller with a motor, rotating brush or brushes and commutator would make it impossible to look like the egg of Columbus. But that is just my opinion. ;D


Perhaps you're thinking of the wrong Egg. Lol.    ATTACHED CLIP..  It shows exactly how the induction works.  Middle coil is the induced one, first and last coils are varying strength..  The author of the document even specifically claimed this is how Figuera device works.

I am not saying the author is completely right, but I think some people are mixing up the eggs.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4727 on: March 18, 2023, 07:10:11 AM »
speed measurement or speed/torque control with DC, like in magnetic amplifier.
Wesley
Eh! and I was hoping that these were the conclusions for transferring the motor to the OU mode. :)
If seriously, it was still used as a signal source for some kind of automation.
Below is the signal at this output.


I am just curious, what does that motor have to do with the Figuera device? Is it part of a build?.
Has no relation. Excuse me. I've just dreamed to break it apart for a long years.  :D

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4728 on: March 18, 2023, 11:33:52 AM »
The link you posted has a mistake //
Quote; "As the DC level in the control coil//
Thank you for your comment.
what you think about it is not important  as we are  pointing
at particular winding of kolbacitst and its function. :) and that is what that link is talking about.

If I say that  Hitler was totally all wrong.
- the true history fact is that :
Hitler made German  economy and technology shining.
His scientists  after WW2 were working in USA atomic, rockets and aviation  industry. He was about to make Nuke, but he  didn't.

One more example:
I was about to present working energy conversion FE  based  on Energy transfer  from A to B 
 mechanism of Dr James Corum. but I didn't.
 The true history fact is that :
A to B is scientifically and practically applied  in today's  technology but for you  claim  about FE there may not be certain.

question:
Will you  negate ( energy for free) coming from extra cash  too?
-and that happens all the time, especially if you are young and supported by parents  or when they left forever.

I hope it helps.

Wesley
« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 08:21:16 PM by stivep »

Offline Dog-One

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4729 on: March 18, 2023, 11:59:56 AM »
He was about to make Nuke, but he  didn't.

As I recall, we found his submarine full of uranium on the way to Japan,
so we made the nuke and gave it to Japan in a nice, loud, hot package.
Funny how things work out sometimes.

Offline IMIGHTKNOW

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4730 on: March 18, 2023, 04:12:13 PM »
I guess people do not study physics on this site or OU apparently. There is no way to vary a north and a south magnets or electromagnet as they inherently join as one magnetic field. Reducing one and increasing the other with the type of switching in the Figuera device is darn near useless. I tried it for months with an outcome of very little every time. There is even an uninformed person on OU that is trying to use AC in this device and that is completely useless also. Not one physics professor or electrical engineer uses an AC electromagnet because they are inherent slow to react. The inductive reactance and flipping of all the magnetic domains is very, very time consuming taking a lot of power to do so. Plus when it just starts to get to a point of usable magnetic field strength it reverses and starts the flipping all over again. Not to mention the hysteresis which is another major blow attempting to use ac.

This is insanity to think ac can be used in this situation and the reason why every exciting field coil in the world of every standard generator is DC driven. So the facts remain that it can not be a north and a south electromagnet or ac driven. It has to be opposing being swept from side to side over the secondary using DC.

Why people do not follow the patent is beyond me. It also stated the patent is just a drawing for the understanding purposes OLNY so why do people still think resistor or resistor network are used in this device. IF it says that R is just for comprehension then what other viable solution can there be to control current flow in the most efficient manor possible.

An inductor and inductive reactance is the only viable solution according to physics.

Apparently you are forgetting the person said it LOOKS like the egg of Columbus not that is was which is your fallacy not mine. ;D

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4731 on: March 18, 2023, 04:29:54 PM »
Hers is a video I found on Youtube that shows two lights being switched high and low just like the Figuera device patent states 180 degrees out from each other. Just so happens it is an inductor using inductive reactance to control current flow. ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu5u4wVgiw8

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4732 on: March 18, 2023, 06:47:38 PM »
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An inductor and inductive reactance is the only viable solution according to physics...

I thought we settled that issue back in 2016, 'round about here, thanks to hints from Doug1.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/10712-re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera?p=403949#post403949

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4733 on: March 18, 2023, 08:27:09 PM »
Couldn't help myself and had to attempt to build it...

5x H-bridges
4 resistance coils
1x triple layer transfo
Arduino

Firing 1-2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2-1 repeating.  One polarity pulses.

I recorded what the scope looks like. Both repel and attract modes.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCRyBpUy0jA

I will continue to poke at it.  Considering winding more tranfo's .. 
Planning to test alternating DC, different frequencies, and whatever else I can muster.

EDIT-  here is a video of the firing order- which I blew all my LED's out.  lol..  The working model is operating on a much faster frequency.  This was slow so we can see the circuit firing correctly   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2Fv3xQslso

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4734 on: March 18, 2023, 11:02:39 PM »
OK figured out my problem.  H-bridges needed diodes on each hot leg output ..  H-bridge changes then to "LOW" when not used and becomes a ground..

Installed a diode on each H-bridge and now it looks a lot better.  Can clearly see where it goes 5/5 and 1/1 for the reverse.  And the steps are coming into view..  The patents say output is "Alternate" current..  Using N/N I do not get alternating..  But with N/S arrangement I do..

Now shorting the output does raise the input.  So Lenz is not bypassed here. 

I think I need lower resistance coils..  Impedance is too high with these coils that the "steps" are in the dungeon..

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4736 on: March 19, 2023, 01:33:32 AM »
Yes Mr Cadman I thought so also and that Doug posts were quite impressive to say the least. I highly enjoyed all his posts and think he is one of the true ones that know just how this device operates.

I was told by my friend he has cancer so I hope he made it.

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« Reply #4737 on: March 19, 2023, 05:39:30 PM »
SO Mr. Cadman,  if that is the case then why are people straying so far from the patent. Trying to build a rocket before understanding propulsion is basically what I have seen so far on this thread from the beginning. Every single build posted here from the start ended in failure.

All I see is individuals throwing in their own interpretations into the mix which nets nothing halting advancement. Unless the original is understood completely then how on earth can a variant be built. Humanity can't and never will benefit from this unless the collective agrees on specifics then moves forward as a group.

Randomly building with electronics or throwing in items that might be beneficial is a complete waste of time and will inevitably lead to failure.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4738 on: March 19, 2023, 05:47:05 PM »
I thought we settled that issue back in 2016, 'round about here, thanks to hints from Doug1.
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/10712-re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera?p=403949#post403949

Shhhh Cadman...please let Mr. Know It All...to Enlighten ALL of Us here...

He will very soon make a huge disclosure here, showing exactly how the Figuera works...maybe with another "rebuilt attempt" of the "Part G"??...remember?
Cause previous one was a FULLY Short circuit...

Regards

Ufopolitics

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4739 on: March 19, 2023, 06:00:49 PM »
Please do tell us exactly how old you are.? You are acting like a psychotic kid on Prozac not a researcher.

I have never stated I know everything nor did I insinuate. I simpley stated facts as I see them. With this type of behavior I can see why this threads is in complete shambles.
Your a disgusting human being.