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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1379220 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4560 on: October 17, 2018, 09:02:35 PM »
Self Induction, Faraday's Induction Law and the Lenz's Law

Self-inductance basics;.

When current passes along a wire, and especially when it passes through a coil or inductor, a magnetic field is induced. This extends outwards from the wire or inductor and could couple with other circuits. However it also couples with the circuit from which it is set up.

The magnetic field can be envisaged as concentric loops of magnetic flux that surround the wire, and larger ones that join up with others from other loops of the coil enabling self-coupling within the coil, flux linking as you will.

When the current in the coil changes or the magnetic field associated with it changes, this causes a voltage to be induced in the different loops of the coil - the result of self-inductance.

Faraday's Induction Law;

Any change in the magnetic environment of a coil of wire will cause a voltage (emf) to be "induced" in the coil. No matter how the change is produced, the voltage will be generated. The change could be produced by changing the magnetic field strength, moving a magnet toward or away from the coil, moving the coil into or out of the magnetic field, rotating the coil relative to the magnet, etc


Lenz's Law;
   
Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.
Lenz’s Law applies to self inductance because an induced current has a direction such that its magnetic field opposes the change in magnetic field that induced the current.

So now put these together with the Inductor controller used in the Figuera device and what do you get. you have an active Inductor with a moving positive brush that changes the loop count dynamically on either side of the brush as it rotates that changes the magnetic flux to current ratio. what this means is the magnetic field on either side of the brush is constantly changing either up or down in intensity which according to Faraday's Laws of Induction will produce an EMF. since it is created within the circuit according to the Lenz's Law it will oppose the original current flow thus reducing the current flow to what ever level you so choose according to your build requirements.
so according to Faraday's Laws of Induction all that is needed is a change in the magnetic field.  so when the brush rotates the loops added to the circuit is increasing the magnetic field and it is this field that creates EMF the opposes the original current flow.

all movement of the controlling Inductor produces an Opposing Emf on either side of the brush that reacts with that side of the circuit which allows either side to be in complete Unison with each other but remain completely separate at all times thus allowing set N and set S Electromagnets to increase and decrease in intensity 180 degrees out from one another.
this action allows the Electric fields associated with the Electromagnets to be in the same direction being positive and additive. this is accomplished by using two opposing North face Electromagnets. sorry folks this action can NOT happen with a North and a South Electromagnet.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4561 on: October 25, 2018, 05:11:41 PM »
According to the above post  i cannot understand how it produces a positive and negative wave to complete a cycle of sine wave !

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« Reply #4562 on: October 26, 2018, 12:25:59 AM »
With the secondary opposing field in between the primaries as they sweep from side to side.  this action causes the poles to flip every time they sweep from side to side.

I have posted much information about this in many posts in the past.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4562 on: October 26, 2018, 12:25:59 AM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4563 on: October 29, 2018, 08:29:36 PM »
 Dave1148;

  Reading some of the past posts will help in the understanding. any questions just ask.

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« Reply #4564 on: November 05, 2018, 03:28:40 PM »
After one gets over the fact that Inductance can and will control current flow the system really makes sense. storing and releasing the potential on the exciting side of the system then using a portion of the output to replace the losses and to give rise to amplification to the primaries was sheer genius on Figuera's part. after the initial polarization of the secondaries no power is used there after from the primaries and the potential is to say, "recycled" through out the exciting system. from the inherent ohmic losses the secondary is used to replace these losses with an added boost at the peak of the rising primaries to maintain the needed pressure between the primaries to sustain the output.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4565 on: November 05, 2018, 04:54:24 PM »
I see no way how this overcomes the Lenz law, can you explain how? To any excitation there is an immediate Lenz effect against. A single rational explanation how this overcomes the Lenz law. That is what overcomes the Lenz law.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4566 on: November 05, 2018, 08:19:18 PM »
Maybe you cannot get rid of Lenz, but there are ways to get around it and even get it to help you

In the video RPM increases when you apply a load

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFak6CYzIQ

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« Reply #4567 on: November 06, 2018, 03:24:18 PM »
The first problem is the understanding of the device and the second is the device does not sidestep the Lenz Law at all. actually Figuera counted on it, that is the opposing field in the secondary is what is pushed from side to side. the Lenz field is the field that is sandwiched between the primaries which gives the illusion of motion to the Electric field.
understanding the device will help in this situation.
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« Reply #4568 on: November 06, 2018, 03:30:40 PM »
Ok, this is again an explanation that doesn't explain anything.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4569 on: November 06, 2018, 07:10:28 PM »
@ ayeaye
You HAVE TO believe in it
"actually Figuera counted on it"
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« Reply #4570 on: November 08, 2018, 03:18:03 PM »
I see you're stupidity is leaking out again seaad. if you actually study the device in depth you will realize everything i post is facts backed by Physics. i do not have to lower myself to really stupid childish remarks such as you have.
If you have nothing to add but BS then please either shut your smart A$$ mouth or stay away as either will suffice.

the Figuera device does NOT sidestep the Lenz Law in any way shape or form.

ayeaye;
What is your question and what don't you understand.??? i have posted a lot of information in the past posts that were really informative. please let me know.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4571 on: November 08, 2018, 03:45:38 PM »
What is your question and what don't you understand.??? i have posted a lot of information in the past posts that were really informative. please let me know.

I don't know, all i see about the device, is a pdf file, where i cannot see horns or tails. So also no way can i see how this supposed to overcome the Lenz law. I didn't say eliminate the Lenz law, but overcome the implications of it, that cause unity. There could be some better diagrams of the device and better explanation, so it can be seen what it actually is. I'm of course not into it at all, so there are sure things that i don't know by now, but so are many others i think.

I wonder how it can be done, the symmetry of induction is so overwhelming, just whatever you do, the symmetry remains.

Can it be simulated somehow, with spice or whatever?

Ok, it is something like on the figure below, i guess. Now what it looks like, moving the potentiometer in whatever direction, the Lenz effects on both primary coils are in the same direction, which induces current in the secondary coil in one direction. At that, the Lenz effect of one of the primaries is caused by increasing current, thus the power is positive, and the Lenz effect of the other primary is caused by decreasing current, thus the power is negative (generated by the coil). Now the question is, is the power generated by the second primary greater than the power consumed by the first primary, or not. In that case the Lenz effect is still against the current in the first primary, while it is in the same direction in the second primary. Of course coils generate power when the current decreases, but consume power when it increases, and both are there, i don't see that the Lenz effect is anyhow overcome in that circuit. That's just as i see, i don't say it's one way or other way. But i don't see any reason for overunity in that circuit, or i overlooked something.

Ok, unless the Lenz effect in the first primary may somehow additionally delay the current reaching zero in the second primary. I don't know, didn't think about it, but things like that i think cannot be found out by simulation.

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« Reply #4573 on: November 10, 2018, 06:09:46 PM »
This? Measure the input and output power of it too, the same way as i did there  https://overunity.com/17861/bifilar-pancake-coil-overunity-experiment/ . Without it, such experiments make no sense whatsoever. Measure it on real circuit that is, not in the simulator, for very theoretical reason the simulator there cannot model overunity.


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« Reply #4574 on: November 11, 2018, 03:30:47 PM »
The magnetic fields of the primaries will always be opposing as the Lenz effect will always keep them opposing whether they are increasing or decreasing to maintain the pressure between them. by raising one primary and lowering the other the Electric fields are alligned  as such to be positive and additive  thus presenting the secondary a magnetic field with the same intensity as a north south field of a standard generator.

As i have stated when half of the device is reduced it will release that reduced  potential into the system to offset the potential drop of the rising side of the devi e. The reducing side will always counteract the increasing sides potential drop minus losses ocurred  withe the secondary feed back to replace the losses and give rise to amplification to the rising primaries to maintain the needed pressure for your output.

When i get to a computer i can explain further as i am on my phone and can barely  see the screen..

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