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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1380333 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4485 on: August 10, 2018, 07:04:01 AM »
(If you have tight (thick) wires running parallel both on top "plate" and bottom "plate" from end to end.)  (I'm always making tests before I put out my nose )
(this is NOT tested at all!)
Quite obvious and typical of you. sorry won't happen as the magnetic fields are opposing. open your darn mind and see the magnetic fields are opposing. it is like talking to Hanon or a brick wall with you some times and very aggravating knowing i am right and you are wrong. why can't you see the magnetic fields are opposing is beyond me and i really can't see justifying our conversation any longer as your intelligence is lacking in this area and is total BS as always.
Me, i tested everything i post on the bench.
good day and good luck as you will definitely need it.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4486 on: August 10, 2018, 09:49:08 AM »
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" The problem with this comes with all the crossings in the middle not the electrical part, if you have tight (thick) wires running paralell both on top "plate" and bottom "plate" from end to end.
To solve that make two levels of crossing lines. (this is NOT tested at all!) " It's obvious I can't test this because I don't have the MM  flat C core.

I have tested the "cross winding principle" there are no opposing fields at all on the contrary.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4487 on: August 10, 2018, 11:46:58 PM »
I realized  after studying your wiring directions that is was a misrepresentation that is why it threw me off. this is the corrected one and showing the magnetic field directions. connections will be on opposite side of each other. red on both sides is impossible when winding like that.
it is still a waste of a lot of wire but yes it will work and possibly use a smaller core..

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4488 on: August 11, 2018, 01:07:41 AM »
MM Quote:
" it is still a waste of  a lot of wire but yes it will work and possibly use a smaller core."

A lot is not so much! The inside diagonal part of the winding A-B is slightly longer, Yes, than A-C for each turn compared with your original "one plate" winding.
But to get 4 x Henry if you wish that you need two times more turns. To have room for them on one "plate" you need to shrink the wire diameter!
The benefit with my suggestion is that the wire size still can be Thick by splitting the tuns.
The negative electrical behavior maybe is that the bruch only touches every second  turn. And is much harder to wind on two C-cores.

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« Reply #4489 on: August 11, 2018, 01:48:38 AM »
  The winding pattern just seems to be a waste to me but hey it's your thing not mine.
received my epoxy today in the mail. it is 3,300 PSI sheer strength epoxy with a three hour window tack time with 24 hour cure. should hold the winding's quite nicely in place.
Here is the link....  https://www.monarkgolf.com/golf-components/tools-supplies/24-hour-shafting-epoxy-total-8-oz..html

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« Reply #4490 on: August 12, 2018, 03:08:08 PM »
That is the whole reason for using thicker wire on part G is not only is it going to be the power supply once the starting is removed but that it will equate to less ohmic losses. it makes sense once you realize that the reverse magnetic field controls the current flow in the system NOT resistance like other electrical systems. thicker wire equates to the most efficient Inductor possible thus allowing the transfer from the magnetic stored field to the electric flow with the least losses as possible.

sense part G's reverse magnetic field controls the current flow why would one wind the primaries with lots of ohms .???  sounds counter productive to me and adds up to more losses. winding the primaries with as little resistance as possible will allow the primaries to react darn near instantly to the current change in part G thus maintaining the needed pressure between the primaries with precision. this is not according to present day teaching that says resistance controls current flow. the reverse magnetic field controls the current flow throughout the system so wind your electromagnets specifically as electromagnets.

the secondary on the other hand IS wound according to present day teachings just like a standard generator output is so wind them accordingly.
always remember part G controls the current flow NOT the primaries.
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« Reply #4491 on: August 14, 2018, 11:23:55 PM »
Inductance is the key factor in this device and not resistance so concentrate on INDUCTANCE alone and the ratio of inductance between the primaries and Part G, each half separately.
Another thing i would like to bring up again is there has to be a load on the output for the device to work. here is the reason why. when a load is attached to the device and current begins to flow an opposing field to the first in the secondary is formed and it is this field that is pushed from side to side across the electric field formed by the primaries. if no load is present then current will not flow and the opposing field in the secondary will be absent thus no output. the opposing field in the secondaries is what the primaries push from side to side giving the appearance or the illusion of motion in the secondary to the electric field.
no load, no opposing field, no output, it's just that simple.
a load has to be present even when taking readings.
i hope you can understand what was just said.

NO LOAD NO OUTPUT.
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Marathonman
« Last Edit: August 15, 2018, 04:00:58 AM by marathonman »

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« Reply #4492 on: August 15, 2018, 04:33:12 AM »
Quote from another forun;
"Glad to see someone using their brain for a change.
Yes, if you want maximum field strength, then the 2 inductors should be pulsed in unison with both at the same amperage levels.
Of course the poles should be set to N-S .
That way, one side of induced coil will be induced with a positive voltage while the other side gets induced with a negative voltage just like in a regular generator."

Absolutely WRONG ! i have already proved with Physics why the primaries are NN in configuration and have a video on youtube as why it is so.
When a magnet is brought into a coil it's current will be in one direction but when you retract the magnet it will reverse current. so do the math folks and not have your head stuck in the sand for six long years.
when two opposing electromagnets are switched like Figuera did one up and the other down, the electric fields will be in the same direction which are additive to match that of a high intensity field of the N S of a standard generator .
I see reality took a side check on EF like crazy thus the blind leading the blind
UFOP still seams to have some sense about him.
the rest, stupid is stupid does. do not listen but to your own bench work as i do. if you do not have the proper pressure between your electromagnet or a load is not present you will get  crap for output.  the thought of you thinking the electromagnets are N S is laughable at best and will result in you wasting your money and time thus resulting in failure.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4493 on: August 16, 2018, 12:31:18 AM »
The main reason for people thinking they can take side steps in using electronics to power the Figuera device is the fact we have been hypnotized by Corporate world into thinking we really need their BS when in fact we can be without.
using present day electronics in the Figuera device is the reason why most are failing to get an output and blaming it on the NN fields when in fact it is their own stupidity and misunderstanding of the device and events that are taking place in the device.
each side of the device is  or has to be in complete unison one rising the other falling in current. blame the NN fields all you want but it is your IGNORANCE that is blocking you from an output plain and simple.
also the use of electronic is blocking the recycling of the energies in the system and i am sorry your ignorance is stopping you from seeing this.
The Figuera device uses INDUCTANCE device to curtail the current on an orderly fashion and uses the storing and releasing of that energies to it's advantage.
thus the point of this post, you are destin for failure until you realize the very factual statements i have just made and i an sorry to be the barer of bad news but you uninformed on EF or any where for that matter are the ones loosing out from the lack of knowledge of the Figuera device.
The lack of bench work is your demise not mine.
The Figuera device is in FACT NN fields and proven by PHYSICS in my youtube video.
Edit;
I stand corrected, UFOP seems to think the Figuera device is NS and maybe in the land of OZZ but sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you are also INCORRECT in the FIGUERA device.
Blind leading the blind.

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« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 03:27:42 AM by marathonman »

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« Reply #4494 on: August 16, 2018, 02:52:54 PM »
  When i an referring to the secondary second field i am referring to the reactive field (The Lenz Law) that opposes the first. when the primaries polarize the secondaries and current begins to flow (With a load) the lenz law kicks in and creates an opposing field to the original polarization. it is this reactive field that is pushed from side to side in a sweeping action across the Electric fields created by the primaries. if there is no load attached to the secondary output there will be no reactive field to push from side to side thus no output will occur.
it is this very action that gives the secondaries the appearance or the illusion of motion to the electric field.

The higher the pressure between the primaries the higher the output from the secondary which is why most are failing to get an output. not enough pressure between the primaries or not switching in unison will cause the lack of output. part G as an active INDUCTOR does just that, raises and lowers the current to the primaries in complete unison.
this is why part G the INDUCTOR is so important in the system as the primaries will ALWAYS remain in complete unison as one loop is subtracted from one side it is added to the other side as the brush rotates. N><N opposing fields at the brush keep each side of the inductor completely separate but always in complete unison.

as i have proved and posted a you tube video that the primaries are in fact NN NOT NS. when using NS and switching like Figuera does with the INDUCTOR the electric field created by the primaries will be opposing thus reducing the output to a bare minimum.  with the primaries in NN with one reducing and the other increasing the Electric fields created will be in the same direction thus being positive and additive.
facts are fact and backed by Physics all day long.
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« Reply #4495 on: August 16, 2018, 06:13:19 PM »
I have so mush to do on my one day off but i did manage to get some work done on my new Primary bobbins and my new part G.
I have posted editorials on bobbin making that make very strong bobbins to wind on that can be made square by the way.
as for the pic of my party G here is a pic of the half round i glued to the edge to ease the winding procedure. no more square corners making a nice smooth bend. this is of course 1 half of the C core i will be using for part G winding's, the other half is to just to close the core.
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« Reply #4496 on: August 16, 2018, 07:51:46 PM »
MM
With each half C-core you only have one try if you glues the wires direct to the core. You can't hardly change the wire size afterwards. Or do you have a plan B?
The big day comes closer when you can liberate the world.

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« Reply #4497 on: August 17, 2018, 12:50:48 PM »
All simulations say my C core is spot on. previous test say the core is spot on with no balancing issues.
Part of plan B is i have an adjustable brush holder to adjust the window of current rise and fall.
"The big day comes closer when you can liberate the world"
That has been my plan all along.
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« Reply #4498 on: August 18, 2018, 12:12:26 AM »
The cloth i use for the bobbins is Eco-Fi brand made from recycled plastic bottles them hit with Fiberglass resin that makes it rock hard. the cloth is 23 cents per 9 x 12 sheet so you can't beat the price.
here is the sanded edge of my new part G ready to wind and the bobbins almost ready to sand and paint.
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« Reply #4499 on: August 19, 2018, 12:18:28 PM »
In part G we have what we call a storing energy phase and decaying energy phase that are happening at the same time. in the storing phase the winding count on the Inductor is getting smaller as the brush rotates thus the current is getting stronger. even though the area of the magnetic field is shrinking in width it is getting stronger projecting outward and storing energy in the form of a magnetic field only to be released in the decaying phase. when it is in the storing phase there will be a voltage potential drop across the inductor as it is storing into the magnetic field.

in the other half of part G we have the decaying energy phase that is increasing in Inductance with the winding count increasing thus reducing the current flow and releasing that reduced potential of stored energy from the previous stored stage into the system. when it releases this potential it will cause a potential increase in the system that is used to off set the potential drop of the storing phase side of part G. even though the current has been reduced the magnetic flux to current ratio has increased considerably causing the current to be reduced thus releasing that part of the stored potential onto the system.

at the same time part G is in either the decaying phase or the storing phase so is the primary electromagnets. when their magnetic fields are reduced they to will release that reduced potential into the system combined with part G's reduced potential to off set the energy storing phase potential drop.

so as the brush rotates each side of the system will alternate between a storing phase and decaying phase that causes the primary electromagnets to either increase or decrease in current at the same time causing the electric fields created to be in the same direction thus positive and additive.

as the brush rotates each side of the Inductor remaining completely separated by the north north opposing magnetic fields either increasing or decreasing current to the primaries in unison will cause the opposing fields of the primaries to sweep across the secondary.  after polarization from the primaries and current begins to flow a secondary field is formed in the secondaries known as the Lenz Law that opposes the original polarization. it is this reactive field that the primaries in their sweeping action pushes from side to side across the electric field formed by the primary electromagnets. in doing so this give the secondaries the appearance or the illusion of motion to the electric field thus inducing EMF.

it is just the relative sweeping motion of the primaries that induces motion into the secondaries with the reactive field in between them. if there is no reactive field there will be no movement of the secondaries thus no output will occur.
the secondary loop back is used to replace the losses occurred and to give the increasing primary electromagnet an added boost to maintain the pressure between the electromagnets when the other electromagnet is reduced to get the sweeping action across the secondary.

Figuera was a sheer genius of a man using Inductance to control current flow and building a stationary generator.

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Marathonman
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