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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2334344 times)

marathonman

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Don't start pulling your BS on me seaad, as you never asked me if the winding is continuous or i just plain missed it, please next time you ask a question try being a little more descriptive in your question if you are able to do so. otherwise i will turn my back on you and your belittle BS games. start acting like a researcher and you will get a little more respect from people.
as for the next question which is the same yes part G one of them is a continuous wind which is the one mr. Doug built. my new core is not.
yes i am using the same core just rewound with 80 winds CW.
and as for your last question i have not completed the last rewind of one primary as i switches to three winds of two layers each after testing and have not completed. this will give me all connection at the end of the primaries for ease of connection and a stronger magnetic field.
so no my unit is not ou as yet as i am not quite finished.
not everyone on this world has money to burn and must fit within a budget which i am no exception. if i has a few thousand dollars i of course would be finished.
research to prove is cheap but actual build cost very much when living in a city where no scrap parts are around.

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The whole reason i rewound my primaries was two reasons, 1.  the fact that they were shy in the lbs pressure produced even with the Tesla style of winding 2. there was an accident moving the equipment to a larger facility other than my tiny place i have to work. the box with the cores was dropped smashing one core all to hell and mangling my brush holder. on a limited budget this was devastating so it has taken a few months to get back up to par. my income tax return helped a little but i still had bills to pay. as we all know life will be life and can not be avoided.
i was getting fairly good results with part G but the balancing issue of the ring type core was plaguing me and i could not get the exact balance of the peak to peak of the primaries. the balancing is sill being worked on along with a new core design to eliminate this plaguing issue. with the new design i have the brush holder is adjustable to dial in the exact window of highs and lows of currant per the secondary to primary ratio. part G as an inductor works exactly as planned even though many are against it.
fortunately i have Physics on my side and part G works just fine so i need not listen to people that just don't know. that is just the follies in new territory of unproven tech that just so happens to be 110 years old. i stepped into this journey with a completely open mind and man have i learned a lot unlike a select few that choose to remain closed minded.
Figuera was a sheer genius and i wish people would open their minds to a new reality that just very well might change our way of life and at a bare minimum you just might learn something new.
PS. here is a pic of one of my primaries after the box drop. my suggestion to everyone is not let anyone touch your device period especially if they are a klutz. i had to completely rebuild them from the bobbins up. as painful as it was i had no choice but to keep chugging along.

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Part G ring core does in fact work, i repeat, part G ring core does work but the balancing of the primaries are a complete pain in the back side consisting of shutting the system off and moving the adjustable connectors i posted a while back a little at a time tightening everything then turning the system back on and testing. it is a royal pain in the backside so i decided to take another approach along with the ring type core. i now will have two types of part G core for testing purposes.
before mouths and accusation start flying i just want to say that the ring type does work , i just wanted to try to see if i can build part G that is easier to wind and easier to balance for replication purposes.
on that note i ordered a special C core of my own design a month back and just received that has a large flat surface which to wind on. i will be using square magnet wire as to reduce the amount of copper losses associated with a high speed precision ground buffed surface for the brush to rotate on. the core is a closed core which is a must in the Figuera device as there are to much flux losses associated with an open core and thus will not work in the Figuera device.
the C will be much easier to wind and adjust according to my present understanding and experience of part G thus i foresee no additional problems associated with this design. after i have wound the C i can attach the other C to close the core then begin testing.
the only reason i am doing this is i am trying to come up with a way for easier replication of part G and no other reason but that. this will be tested right along with the ring core that has already proven it's self on the bench.

here is a pic of my new core, lets just hope it was money well spent. and of course a good shot of man hands that are good tools to work with. ha, ha, ha, ha!


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One thing i do not like with the C Core is the edges have no chamfer like i said i wanted so either i have to grind them down or maybe use 1/2 round molding. either way i do need to get rid of those sharp edges as that will pierce the insulation on the wire. i only have to do it to the upper piece on both sides so that will not take that long.

also the Core is around 1500 va so if i add core sets to increase the output i can do so with no ill effects which will still leave head room in part G. if at any time the core saturates it will kill the device so keep that in mind, that goes for the secondary also.

all in all i am very happy how the core turned out but i will be much happier when it is on the bench. the shop almost used the wrong dimensions so just as a precaution i sent them a pic of their own core from their web site with the proper dim's and thank god i did as the dude had a few dim's switched around which i would of went ballistic upon site of. not good considering what i paid for it. when i opened the box i was grinning from ear to ear.

yes the square wire will be awesome for this project which will allow me to grind perfectly flat with very little copper losses. like i said i am using a slow curing epoxy on the core then after winding i will tip it over and put a heavy weight on it then cure over night. then hit with the high speed buffer to precision flatness. i really foresee no complication in these steps.

after that i can set the size of my reduction window in my adjustable brush holder to get the proper width of the primary sweeping action over the secondary. if the reduction is to much but with proper window size all i have to do is take off some winding's on the ends of the core and i will be perfect. this is much easier than what i had to go through with the ring type part G to get balance of the peak of both primaries.

the video i plan on making will be both cores with 100 watt bulbs connected to both sides one increasing and one decreasing in complete unison to completely stifle all those who disbelieve part G is not an inductor.

i sooooo look forward to that.

after almost 6 long years of research, testing and benching i am finally coming to the apex of my labor thus picking the Fruit from the seeds planted by Figuera with the help of Mr. Doug for which i am forever grateful.
some mistakes were made in the past but hey, that is just part of research and the learning process. without mistakes the truth will never be known and all one has to do is take that first step outside of ones box.
 

Marathonman

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marathonman

you mentioned you need bits and pieces or parts which might be recycled from discarded items?but your city did not have these available [some have rules about touching curbside items]?perhaps you could make a wish list of these parts ?there are plenty of fellows here who would send  items they have no need of ,or even persons reading here who would keep an eye open for such an item to donate?
just a thought

respectfully
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while i do appreciate your though which is genuinely nice gesture, i have been down that road before only to have not so nice people accusing me of misrepresenting myself in which i was definitely not so i unfortunately have to decline that offer.

when you live in the crappy world we live in today where corporate and personal greed is at it's highest where people are reduced to nothing but a dollar sign,  those more misfortunate than i am seem to get to the scraps before i do so i am left with what i can get. i know it sounds crazy but i rely on my self only that way i have no one to put the blame on but me. a hard lesson i just received two months ago was a mechanic said he can fix my truck but 1,ooo dollars and two months later all i have to show for it is a 2500 lb paper weight and loosing my job in the process. try getting back on your feet with a bicycle and tell me how that went. it is a slow process but i am doing it as i was taught not to give up EVER. people in Japan can do it then so can i.


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I really have to add after reading a few older posts people still don't grasp the concept of a generator. a generator does not produce an unlimited supply of energies to waste as you wish, sorry generators do no operate like that. generator do not generate they bring energy in from the surrounding environment or the dirac sea if you wish (Aether).

Gravity has a three dimensional plain of existence and when exposed to a two dimensional magnetic field it cancels out two of the Gravitational dimensions leaving one Gravitational dimension which causes currant to flow from the Aether (counter space) into the generator system.(space)

now back on track, the inducing side of a generator is a closed system to say. since the residual magnetization in the core is polarized it automatically will start producing electrical energies in the secondary (pulled from the Aether) which is feed back to the exciters from the AVR to produce more energy until it is producing enough to handle the exciters and the external load combined.  once the exciter fields are at maximum the the draw of the exciters are reduced to that of just the IR2 losses to maintain said field.  when the secondary load increases the resistance in the external circuit will drop causing more currant to flow which sends more currant to the AVR then to the exciters to produce more energy until the secondary is producing enough to handle the exciters and the load.

the exciting side of the system is a closed system except for the feed back from the secondaries through the AVR to the exciters. at no time is the power from the exciting system used in the secondary system as that is also a closed system. the secondary and the load is a closed system and once the currant is flowing in the system no other power is drawn from the dirac sea (Aether) because the currant in the system is circulated around the this closed system being pushed around by the interactions of the dirac sea (Aether) from the magnetic fields created from the primaries. if the load is steady the draw on the dirac sea (Aether) is reduced to the losses in the secondary closed system and the pressure to maintain the load.
the currant in both systems is circulated around each system and just the feed back from the secondary system is feed to the primary exciting system to replace the IR2 losses or when the load is increased.

no power is ever used up in any of man's systems, it is only circulated throughout  each but the losses created by heat is non recoverable which has to be replaced.

the cogging effect is then the stator and the rotor's attraction forces (lenz Law) become so strong and the motor boggs down to overcome this effects.

now applying that to your Figuera replication and see what you can come up with in terms of a self runner.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 05:58:50 AM by marathonman »

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I think i seem to have stumbled across the problem everyone is having from reading past posts. in the test performed by myself and electrocute on another forum with magnets we, as in both of us,  attained double the voltage from one magnet alone (post 4206) while another person got diddly squat. why did that person get nothing out of his test??? because of the opposing pressure between the magnets was not high enough for any good type of output. if that person had moved his opposing magnets closer together increasing the pressure and compressing the field lines he would have registered double the output.
this is the very reason why so many on this site are having so much problems attaining an output with electromagnets. This has been posted by me SOOOO many times it is not funny. " if the pressure between the electromagnets are not maintained the inductance will drop and the output will fall to that of the rising electromagnet."
what this means is both primaries are responsible for half the output of the secondary so in order to maintain the output the pressure between the primaries has to be at a certain level and if not there will be no output or very little.
the higher the pressure between the electromagnets the higher the output and this is of course reducing one electromagnet while the other is increasing. this will cause the electric fields to be in coherency which is positive and additive.
for 1 kilowatt of secondary output a pressure of 14.8 lbs per square inch has to be maintained between the primary electromagnets at all times shifted back and forth over the secondary. that means each primary is accountable for 7.4 lbs per square inch of pressure compressing the field lines to 14.8 lbs per square inch.

if you don't have the required pressure you will get squat for output because the Figuera's device uses two primaries to match that of one high intensity field of a standard generator.
what we are dealing with is a duel opposing mono-pole excitation system so pressure is to be maintained at all times. so i suggest you people with no output move those magnets closer together or increase the pressure between your electromagnets and retest and the results will happen. start using the upper region we call a brain and actually read and understand what is posted instead of skimming over. if you so choose to not take above advice then what are you doing here in the first place.

get it, got it, good.

regards,

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 18, 2018, 02:27:20 PM by marathonman »

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Here is the 6061 Aluminum plug i receive that will be CNC to the adjustable brush holder. the video is the brush holder with movement.
i guess there is no way to post video's here other than a link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RCKOuyf1s0

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 19, 2018, 12:12:05 AM by marathonman »

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WOW ! a good 5 mile bike ride this morning has me all fired up but is is already hot out getting into the 90's, YUCK !.

For those that are a little skeptical or hesitant about making your own bobbins for your cores please don't fret because it is easier than you think. i found craft felt from recycled plastic bottles works wonderfully in this department at 24 cents a sheet 12 x 12 inches.
all you have to do is cut the width you need, wrap around your covered core then glue in place with superglue cutting off excess. you can then cover with fiberglass resin and let cure over night. cut out the ring ends leaving room to slid over the core end then place on non stick surface then cover with resin curing over night. you can then attach the ring ends the next day one at a time coating with resin a few times allowing to dry in between coatings. when finished you can sand the bobbins and paint any color you wish.
now you have your bobbins made you can wind to your hearts content. this tutorial goes for square or rectangle core also just be sure to cover your core with a thin layer of something that will not stick to the resin to bad that you can't get it off.

in the end you will be proud of your self for taking the time to not only learn something new but you will be able to repair your device in the case of an accident or even for another project winding your own coils.
bobbins allow for adjustment and easing the burden of directly winding on cores that is a royal pain in the back side without proper equipment.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 20, 2018, 03:43:02 AM by marathonman »

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This is an old picture of my primaries when i first wound them before the core was dropped. as you can see the bobbins are strong, work just wonderfully and the winding's are tight.
never underestimate your abilities to accomplish your goals. just because you have not done this before as myself also, doesn't mean you can't step out of your comfort zone which is 3/4 of the battle to accomplishing your task at hand.
the bobbins are snug on the core but can be adjusted if need be which is perfect when building in uncharted territories.

I honestly hope this tutorial can help many people out there that are contemplating or partaking in the building of the Figuera device or AMY device for that matter. ;D
Regards,

Marathonman

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I would also dwell on the fact of actually winging your own coils.
winding you own coils is a rather easy task if you have the right mind set that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to. i know some have seen my winder i have built but there is also some out there that have not and are probably not sure how to proceed. all of the parts used in building my winder tree was purchased at a local hardware store for maybe 25 to 30 dollars. the pipe in the picture is basic water pipe that is inexpensive that comes threaded and pre cut to certain length that are easy to handle. all the fittings can be purchased at the same place as the pipe. their were many people that ran their mouths and laughed at it thinking it was some kind of a joke but those are usually the ones that have no clue how to build anything by them selves and would rather put someone down as they lack any such skill. i personally like to share my experiences to make things easier for other not so experienced to achieve their goals.

the winder in the picture was purchased off of E-bay for some where around 65 dollars. the black knob on the right side of the winder can be taken off and attach a drill motor with a foot peddle controller to control the speed of the winder. by attaching the drill motor at this location all the torque is applied to that one single shaft and not to all the gears that way they do not strip out. then the gears are used just for the counter which counts the turns.

finding ways to get your task accomplished takes just a little thinking which seems to be lacking now a days. thinking outside of the box you will be able do just about anything you set your mind to.
The coil on the bobbin in the above post was wound with this winder and winding tree,  as you see it works wonderful.

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The whole idea behind the Figuera device is using two opposing electromagnets that compresses the field lines to match that of a standard generator. that's certainly not all though as just compressing fields line will not get an output because the both E fields are opposing at that point and no output will occur. so think about that for a moment, how will you get those E fields in the same direction to match one another. you take one up in currant and take the other down in currant at the same time allowing the E fields to match being positive and additive in their relation to each other. the difference between increasing one electromagnet is the same aspects as taking a magnet towards a coil and the decreasing electromagnet is the same aspect as taking a magnet away from the coil. the spin direction does not change but since the reducing one is catching the back side of the spin both E fields are in the same direction which is positive and additive.

since Faraday laid down the laws of induction there has to be some kind of movement in order to get induction from the electromagnet either being the coil of wire that moves or the increase or decrease of currant to the Electromagnets. this is still not all as the movement of the magnetic fields will cause the electric field but there still has to be movement of the secondary through the electric field in order to get currant to flow.
now things get tricky, how are you to get the secondary to move in a static non moving system across the electric field to get currant flow into the system. one might say that is impossible to do but Clemente Figuera was not an ordinary person and has figured this all out in his sheer genius mind.
what Figuera figured out was if two opposing fields had a secondary in between them with the primary raised and the other lowered in currant that the primaries will cause the secondary to polarize and currant will begin to flow in the secondary and the load. when this happens the secondary will form a secondary field to the first (lenz law) that opposes this field. the primaries and the secondaries then part ways and become separate systems. this opposing field of the secondary is what sandwiched between the primary opposing magnetic fields thus causing the sweeping action across the Electric field from the raising and lowering of the primaries controlled by the inductor part G.
in the actions of part G and the primaries, one side of part G and the primaries are raised and the other half is lowered in currant but in doing so the reduced magnetic fields release that reduced portion into the system along with the secondary loop back causing an amplification to the rising side of the system off setting the potential drop of the rising side as all rising magnetic fields there will be a potential drop across the conductor thus the three forms of potential will give amplification to the rising side of the system. as long as part G's positive brush continues to move you will get a constant change in the magnetic flux to currant ratio causing a very orderly linear rise and fall in currant in complete unison.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 21, 2018, 03:34:52 AM by marathonman »

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I know i have said this before but i am going to say it again.
Part G can NOT be replaced so easily with electronics like everyone seems to think. why would someone want to over complicate something as simple as the Figuera device part G inductor is so way beyond me. sure i was to dazzled at one time by electronics but then i can to the harsh reality of just who was getting rich and who was not.  just stop and look around and seen the take over of your lives from these corporation that have you convinced you need electronics in your lives. all this does is make you LAZY and makes them RICH.

Part G is complicated yet simple at the same time. the main factor of the difficulty in using electronics is the release of potential from the reduced side to offset the potential drop of the rising side thus giving amplification. i am sorry folks but electronics can not ever do this in any way shape or form. at the very least one would have to combine the two having a core with electronic switching but even then the amount of transistors to mimic the brush rotation will be anywhere from 80 to 100 transistors and i am sorry but i refuse to handle over my hard earned cash to these monsters when all i have to do is use the core with a few cheap brushes.

with out a core and winding's to change the ratio of magnetic field per the amount of currant (C-EMF) on a continuous basis the complexity of using electronic just flew straight through the roof and i personally think the average person is not capable of doing this and would seem to be a waste of time.

Part G has many function and i really doubt you can mimic all of them with electronic but if one must go down that path i hope you are prepared to get a dump truck full of parts ready and one hell of a wad of cash.

part G spits the feed into two, forward biases like a mag amp, reduce and raises the currant on a continuous basis through self induction (C-EMF) stores and releases potential to either off set the rising side or stores the potential for the next half cycle along with the storing and released potential of the primary electromagnets then uses the secondary output to replace losses and amplification. all this happens inside of part G which will become the power supply one the starting is removed.
so one that note if you think you can mimic all those function with electronics  all i have to say is GOOD LUCK, you will need it.

Marathonman

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Hi all,

@marathonman
Can I suggest you just make video with experiment showing what you are trying to describe here? It would be much more helpful than walls of text which are just ignored here.

Thank you.