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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2020124 times)

Offline marathonman

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« Reply #3930 on: August 15, 2016, 05:37:48 AM »
dareasswhole;
 you have got to be the most ignorant bastard i have ever come across. Doug lives back east and i live in Texas you dumb ass wipe. so now your attacking everybody that doesn't follow you fucking bull shit ideas that you have not even tested, oh excuse me your whole "two" tests and now your some big shot Figuera know it all,  fucking please getto man. how much are you getting paid to disrupt this thread you monster pile of shit.
i talked to homeless people that understand the Figuera device better than you do. all you have is the meg up your ass but i guess you like it up there fag.
YOU are the one spreading disinformation and constantly running your big fat mouth. you are a piss ant of a man and i curse the loose woman that bore you. i bet she's really proud of her retarded son. hows the little special bus ?.

read and study the patent dumb ass or can you shut that big F-in mouth of your long enough. probably not!

to all the retards of the world,  "darefaggot"  the two test wonder,  is going to dawn his pink cape and save the world with his totally screwed up idea. your a retarded bastard and to stupid to realize it. your right Hanon lets all completely loose our F-in mind and follow this completely insane moron of a person that has an IQ of 85.
dareasswhole i would let you clean my toilet let alone follow your stupidity. i have never met a more stupid, ignorant person in my life then you that doesn't know when to shut his big fat getto mouth.

i pittey stupid people like you, always trying to steel the show to make up for his lacking of a real man. come on getto man fag, lets hear more of your stupid, outlandish getto idea's. better yet let's see your getto device work, come on stupid we want to see your getto device work, all the 85 IQ people want to see your getto device work

better to be a wolf than a faggot with a meg sticking out his ass. ha, ha, ha, ha
by by getto man.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3931 on: August 15, 2016, 08:12:42 AM »
dareasswhole;
 you have got to be the most ignorant bastard i have ever come across. Doug lives back east and i live in Texas you dumb ass wipe. so now your attacking everybody that doesn't follow you fucking bull shit ideas that you have not even tested, oh excuse me your whole "two" tests and now your some big shot Figuera know it all,  fucking please getto man. how much are you getting paid to disrupt this thread you monster pile of shit.
i talked to homeless people that understand the Figuera device better than you do. all you have is the meg up your ass but i guess you like it up there fag.
YOU are the one spreading disinformation and constantly running your big fat mouth. you are a piss ant of a man and i curse the loose woman that bore you. i bet she's really proud of her retarded son. hows the little special bus ?.

read and study the patent dumb ass or can you shut that big F-in mouth of your long enough. probably not!

to all the retards of the world,  "darefaggot"  the two test wonder,  is going to dawn his pink cape and save the world with his totally screwed up idea. your a retarded bastard and to stupid to realize it. your right Hanon lets all completely loose our F-in mind and follow this completely insane moron of a person that has an IQ of 85.
dareasswhole i would let you clean my toilet let alone follow your stupidity. i have never met a more stupid, ignorant person in my life then you that doesn't know when to shut his big fat getto mouth.

i pittey stupid people like you, always trying to steel the show to make up for his lacking of a real man. come on getto man fag, lets hear more of your stupid, outlandish getto idea's. better yet let's see your getto device work, come on stupid we want to see your getto device work, all the 85 IQ people want to see your getto device work

better to be a wolf than a faggot with a meg sticking out his ass. ha, ha, ha, ha
by by getto man.
You keep exposing yourself the more. I am glad you always fall for the cheàp bait thrown at you in Random. Wao so surprisingly revealing!

As usual, No balance ,No Grip exact character of a loose Kite.

See, you are on your own. Keep on barking and shoving faces.

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« Reply #3932 on: August 15, 2016, 01:09:49 PM »
Dont get yourself to wound up MM. He is the one who is trying his best to keep anyone from from the truth. All his efforts are to drive people to another type of device not related to the title of the thread by simple methods or tactics. Bait and switch, false accusations. You even pointed out he could go to the site manager and ask if we have the same ip address but he is not interested in the truth contrary to his statements. For some reason which is unkown he doesnt even give a method to his madness. Just be prepared to purchase the eventual circuit driver after you waste a lot of money and time on piecing together with poor instructions his dream circuit. What ever that is. He is a tool like a left handed wrench. Throwing around the phrase dont destroy the dipole. I doubt he even knows what that means based on his design. It will be better to just wait him out as he performs the hope girl two step. He is eager for commerce even stating the world as a single resource of cheap labor. He is the opposite end of the spectrum to any person who wishes to be independent or self sustained. Notice what people he is stroking. anyone who is going to help lead everyone away from the patent. He could with out any effort start another thread for his personal theory but he insists on hijacking this thread. Very curious to know what is in it for him? I guess time will tell, there is enough time to wait and see even if it takes a couple years. MM imagine what you can do in that time. I think i will just lurk and watch the car wreck ,I have my score cards and my comfy chair and plenty of coffee a perfect view of the impact sight. Just have to wait for the blinking yellow light to confuse the hell out of him. I call dibs on any change in his pockets the alternator and starter spark coil packs if he is driving a gas'r.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3933 on: August 15, 2016, 01:22:05 PM »
We are Insulting people's mothers now? there are lines self respecting men don't cross.


Fact

1.The patent was filed in 1908 ;the technology was primitive compared to what we have today
2.We have No idea whatsoever as to the exact coil configuration used as that was not expressly stated in the patent.
3. Part G was depicted a s a set of resistors
4.The jury is still out on whether the poles are attracting or in repulsion mode..this wasn't expressly stated either.

Therefore
Suggestions by forum members to use off the shelf components such as inverters only serve to make the process easier for people who lack a rich technical background..and last time I checked they comprise most of the world's population.

Coil configuration is fair game at this point in time. whatever will give the most bang for your buck is most welcome..I strongly suggest guys take heed of what Dare is saying about how to wind those coils in litz and multifilar fashion (although Im sure most of you know this already). Same thing for bucking coils.

If you don't want to spend time winding a variac and trying to figure out the ratio of turns then use AC as suggested..the motion of the flux will be different but the flux cutting shall still be achieved without physical motion as envisioned by Clemente . and this is where Bucking coils will likely be needed should you choose to go this  route .

Once you visualize this then it is upon you to decide whether you will

A) use 60/50 hz input frequency  but in the process require a shitload of wire to create a strong magnetic field, but end up with an output that's 60 hz and clean/ready to use
B)use high frequency input and need less wire on L1 but need additional components to return to mains frequency at L2..you will either go air-core way or have to get your hands on magnetite to use as a cheap metglas core alternative

These ideas are being suggested not because the aim is to hijack the thread but because they are easier to implement. If you want to build part G no one is stopping you. You guys are acting like its herecy being committed..is this a forum or is this a Spanish Inquisition?..then again Hanon and Clemente are..lol

Its duplicity, on one hand to shut down alternative suggestions and improvements by some while at the same time pushing a different rendition of part G from others which is not in the patent...or citing William Hooper's patent  which came 60 years later..theyre all valid ideas

Newsflash
There is already a working COP>1 device following the principles being suggested  by Dare giving 2.5 times OU..verified by Jlnaudin as well...Im assuming most have heard of it...if we brainstorm peacefully I see no reason why we can't do better

GEGENE!
http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/indexen.htm








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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3934 on: August 15, 2016, 01:51:00 PM »
Spanish Inquisition? Could I have the Domeniqus roule by this theatralic act ?

What is the "Power Factor" ? Probably a magnetic force "Lever Factor" !?

           Gegene ,a kind of Hectors Transverter , the Roto(r)verter static.

                                        Peswiki : Rotoverter

Induction motors operate by locking the rotor to the rotating magnetic field of the stator. Most loads do not require the magnetic field to be at full strength to achieve the desired mechanical power output. Lowering the input voltage to the motor with a Variac is a simple test anyone can do to prove this principle. Most drill press motors will run quite well on 60 volts input. Cutting the Voltage in half also cuts the current in half, which cuts the Power input by 75%! Once the motor is Power Factor Corrected for this voltage, the motor will appear to run on NEARLY NOTHING!!!!
Probably there is a really simple solution,based by step up and step down voltage transformation circuit. 

 
     

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« Reply #3935 on: August 15, 2016, 04:14:43 PM »
I HAVE SOLVED IT.

If you combine Figuera's patent with a MEG, a rotoverter, a GEGENE and a SSG plus Tesla's magnifying transmitter you can output it through darediamond's copied inverter schematic  (you can build it easy) and have COP>gazillion!

All you have to do is wind #31 inverse twisted multifiler (200 strands at least for HUGE magnetic field) spiral cone shaped bucking pancake coil on your core (must be molded) and pulse it at 1.21 GHz to excite the aether and the zero point energy will flow in and give unlimited power!

Complete plans and never before revealed secret details only $19.95 US
Paypal accepted
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« Reply #3936 on: August 15, 2016, 04:43:22 PM »
I HAVE SOLVED IT.

If you combine Figuera's patent with a MEG, a rotoverter, a GEGENE and a SSG plus Tesla's magnifying transmitter you can output it through darediamond's copied inverter schematic  (you can build it easy) and have COP>gazillion!

All you have to do is wind #31 inverse twisted multifiler (200 strands at least for HUGE magnetic field) spiral cone shaped bucking pancake coil on your core (must be molded) and pulse it at 1.21 GHz to excite the aether and the zero point energy will flow in and give unlimited power!

Complete plans and never before revealed secret details only $19.95 US
Paypal accepted
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Honest!

Please include your functional prototype and I will send you,later after testing the functionality of your device  ::) ,let me calculate, okya: $ 24,95 US  , freight included !

In-quis you believe ? ;) No Cadman world but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2mRA03dWUI

http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/bf_2.png          100 in : 20000 out ?
 

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« Reply #3937 on: August 15, 2016, 05:37:26 PM »


Newsflash
There is already a working COP>1 device following the principles being suggested  by Dare giving 2.5 times OU..verified by Jlnaudin as well...Im assuming most have heard of it...if we brainstorm peacefully I see no reason why we can't do better

GEGENE!
http://jnaudin.free.fr/gegene/indexen.htm

with 900 W in and 2.3 kW out it is very easy to do a selfrunner !

did you see any selfrunner ?

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« Reply #3938 on: August 15, 2016, 05:43:08 PM »
with 900 W in and 2.3 kW out it is very easy to do a selfrunner !

did you see any selfrunner ?


Yes, you need to construct simple HF transformer and HF power diode bridge.

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« Reply #3940 on: August 15, 2016, 06:28:23 PM »

...then again Hanon and Clemente are..lol


That sentence defines perfectly what you are.

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Going back to technical subjects. It is not a matter of simplicity or old methods vs. new methods. It is a matter of different things:

AC:  1 signal

Commutator:  2 signals

The same???. For more details, read the 1908 patent

I only say to follow the patent.




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« Reply #3941 on: August 15, 2016, 07:08:18 PM »
"AC: 1 signal     Commutator: 2 signals "
I think, "YES",there is the need to read the "1908" publication :
https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-clemente-figuera-44267.pdf

a. the "Figuera" is only( = no es más) the functional transformation of the Faraday-induction laws
Este  principio,  no  es  nuevo  puesto  que no  es  más que  una  consecuencia  de las Leyes de la inducción sentadas por Faraday en el año 1831: lo que sí es nuevo  y  que  se  quiere  privilegiar  es  la aplicación  de  este  principio  a  una  máquina que produzca grandes corrientes eléctricas industriales, que hasta la presente  no  se  pueden  obtener  sino  transformando  en  electricidad  el  trabajo  mecánico.

b.Now to the description :
DESCRIPCIÓN     DEL     GENERADOR     DE     EXCITACIÓN     VARIABLE “FIGUERA”

the work principle
Aquí,   lo   que   cambia   constantemente   es   la   intensidad   de   la   corriente excitadora  que  imanta  los  electroimanes excitadores  y  esto  se  consigue valiéndose de una resistencia a través de la que, una corriente apropiada, que se toma de un origen exterior cualquiera imanta uno o varios electroimanes, y, conforme  la  resistencia  va  siendo  mayor  o  menor,  la  imantación  de  los electroimanes  va  aminorando  o  aumentando  y  variando,  por  lo  tanto,  la intensidad  del  campo  magnético,  o  sea del  flujo  que  atraviesa  al  circuito inducido.

the operation:
El funcionamiento de la máquina es el siguiente: se ha dicho que la escobilla “O”  gira  alrededor  del  cilindro  “G”  y siempre  en  contacto  con  dos  de  sus delgas.  Cuando  está  en  contacto  con  la delga  “1”  la  corriente  que  viene  del generador  y  pasa  por  la  escobilla  y  delga  “1”,  va  a  imantar  al  máximun  los electroimanes  N  pero  no  los  S  porque  lo impide  toda  la  resistencia;  de  modo que  los  primeros  electroimanes  están  llenos  de  corriente  y  los  segundos vacíos. Cuando la escobilla está en contacto con la delga “2” la corriente no va entera   a   los   electroimanes   N   porque tiene   que   atravesar   parte   de   la resistencia; en cambio a los electrodos S va ya algo de corriente porque esta tiene  que  vencer  menos  resistencia  que en  el  caso  anterior.  Este  mismo razonamiento  es  aplicable  al  caso  en  que  la  escobilla  “O”  cierre  el  circuito como en cada una de las distintas delgas hasta que terminadas las que están en    una    semicircunferencia    empiezan    a    funcionar    las    de    la    otra   semicircunferencia  que  están  directamente  unidas  a  las  otras.  En  suma  la resistencia hace el oficio de un distribuidor de corriente; pues to que la que nova  a  excitar  unos  electroimanes  excita  a  los  otros  y  así  sucesivamente;pudiendo  decirse  que  los  electrodos  N  y  S  obran  simultáneamente  y  en opuesto  sentido  pues  mientras  los  primeros  van  llenándose  de  corriente  se van    vaciando    los    segundos    y    repitiéndose    este    efecto    seguida    y ordenadamente   se   mantiene   una   alteración   constante   en   los   campos magnéticos  dentro  los  cuales  se  halla  colocado  el  circuito  inducido,  sin  más complicaciones  que  el  giro  de  una  escobilla  o  grupo  de  escobillas  que  se mueven  circularmente  alrededor  del  cilindro  “G”  por  la  acción  de  un  pequeño motor eléctrico.

This
Como  se  ve  en  el  dibujo  la  corriente  una  vez  ha  hecho  su  oficio  en  los diferentes   electroimanes   vuelve al   generador   de   donde   se   ha   tomado;   naturalmente que en cada revolución de la escobilla habrá un cambio de signo en la corriente inducida; pero un conmutador la hará continua si así se desea.De esta corriente se deriva una pequeña parte y con ella se excita la máquina convirtiéndola  en  auto  excitadora  y se  acciona  el  pequeño  motor  que  hace girar la escobilla y el conmutador; se retira la corriente extraña o de cebo y la máquina  continua  su  misión  sin  necesidad  de  que  le  presten  ayuda  ninguna para suministrarla indefinidamente.
seems similar to
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3

The following spanish text is only -more/less- a repeat.

hanon,pardon,could you give me a detailed link related to "AC : 1 signal Commutator: 2 signals"
edit:  # 734  http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-25.html   
 ::)     Figuera Clemente wrote about direct or alternating current output
« Last Edit: August 15, 2016, 09:53:21 PM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #3942 on: August 15, 2016, 08:06:12 PM »
QUOTE;
"Fact

1.The patent was filed in 1908 ;the technology was primitive compared to what we have today
2.We have No idea whatsoever as to the exact coil configuration used as that was not expressly stated in the patent.
3. Part G was depicted a s a set of resistors
4.The jury is still out on whether the poles are attracting or in repulsion mode..this wasn't expressly stated either."

While granted it was a while ago somethings can't be replaced as in part "G". it will never self sustain with out it. NEVER !
fairly simple to deduce after trial and error, there is only so many ways to wind a coil especially of the time frame.
it even says it was drawn in an elementary way to get the understanding across, do you seriously think he would waste power unnecessarily like that. do you not have the ability to see past a simple drawing that says it is just a drawing, well em, i guess not.
the jury is not out, six plus people says the polarity is NN including one that has a working device. not to mention my demo device with 100 watts in and 300 watts out all at NN set up.
most of the speculation on N/S on this device was backed by no or little research and the ones that did do research got little to nothing out because of the opposing induced.

completely irrational statements backed by irrational thinking with no research what so ever leads one to no where very fast and does nothing but distract the real purpose of this tread and it's followers.

and i'll be darn if i am going to stand around while some unintelligent lemming  from the pic below runs his mouth at every thing i post about the Figuera device that can be verified by any real semi intelligent researcher. i have over three years and mega thousands of hours of research in each piece of the Figuera device and have read every patent no less than 50 times each reading between the lines.

you, my friend,  are sadly mistaken if you think i don't know what time it is with the Figuera device.

you people aren't  even in the same ball park as me.

ps. GEGENE! is not even close to the Figuera device. no resemblance what so ever.
and not a single cuss word from my sailor mouth, yah ! ex military.

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« Reply #3943 on: August 15, 2016, 08:10:24 PM »
That was a joke. sorry if you were offended Hanon.
Yes figuera uses 2 signals to create Variation in magnetic field. The same can be achieved with 1 signal..the difference will be that Set Y will have a magnetic field approaching from both sides simultaneously...but flux cutting will be achieved in a motionless manner nonetheless

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« Reply #3944 on: August 15, 2016, 08:16:35 PM »
Jegz

Figuera was a suppressed scientist who lived in an island. The patent texts as we  shown are edited.. from our experiments we see that they are significantly altered. By whom I do not know.

The Figuera devices is so simple and that is why it troubles many. Even after 108 years.

The 1902 patents used the gap between identical poles. But the patent text says opposite poles. How do I know..experimental observation.

The 1908 patent is not even a patent application but is a disclosure document program. These documents are secret forever. How can they be obtained is a mystery to me. The 1908 patent drawings show the secodary to be placed within opposite poles. But by modifying the geometry it is possible to use identical poles also though it is cumbersome and risky and the drawing does not show it.

Now I have already built these coils but the problem is that the voltages do not merge in AC always.

We have learnt how to reduce AC input at primary. The current is there in secondary. Wevonly need to use large cores. I only Need to merge the voltages of secondaries. If any one can suggest on it I can show a video easily.

Can I use diodes  and DC capacitors in series to merge the voltages of two secondaries. Please advise. Then I can show the video of a device within days.

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Ramaswami