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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1727280 times)

Offline matu

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3885 on: August 11, 2016, 02:53:20 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3886 on: August 11, 2016, 03:21:09 PM »
Some good advice or way to go for the rotating contact of the G part??
I have see the variation of intensity in the lightbulb by rotating manually but have hard time to avoid sparking...

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3887 on: August 11, 2016, 05:17:54 PM »
Please, stop this maddness. Figuera device can be powered by AC and pulsed DC. Tha's obvious why the latest is powered by pulsed DC, I thought we already discovered why... ?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3887 on: August 11, 2016, 05:17:54 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3888 on: August 11, 2016, 06:18:41 PM »
Please, stop this maddness. Figuera device can be powered by AC and pulsed DC. Tha's obvious why the latest is powered by pulsed DC, I thought we already discovered why... ?
Forest are you being forced?
Did you just say AC can be applied to C.F device?
How come you let that out ?

Well there is no madness anywhere but there is  deliberate Deceitful propagandas to prevent people from getting liberated.

When you vibrate Direct Current and Pass it through an Iron Core Electromagnet, what do youngest as output? You wanna tell me it will remain Pulsing DC?

Is there no Iron Core in the Part G?

Is not the Motor driven commutator acting as Vibrator for the  copper wire wound Toroid?

What output do you then get from the toroid?  Pulsing Direct Current Still or ALTERNATE CURRENT?

I request you teach me what I do not 'actually' Know.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3889 on: August 11, 2016, 07:22:08 PM »
Some good advice or way to go for the rotating contact of the G part??
I have see the variation of intensity in the lightbulb by rotating manually but have hard time to avoid sparking...

I think with due respect that the sparking is good.

Assume that the whole of part G is rotated at high speed. I have observed 6 inch long sparks. Very low input of a 12 volt dc is sufficient to get this. Higher the primary voltage higher the secondary output voltage and current.

Is  550 volts sufficient to create a unidirectional spark.

Then the de ception is that the part G and input can be both removed once the part G rotates and creates spark. The primary voltage will be inyially high and then will be reduced.

Pulsed Dc also works and has the disadvantage that it needs high resistance coil to keep the current drawn low. In AC current dawn is is less due to inductive impedance. In Pulseddc this is not available and we need to add high resistance coil to reduce primary current.

Doug..your post is inappropriate and not appreciated. You are highly respected person. You have made many theoretical postulations and none attacked you. Not fair for you to attack others.

Hanon..My guestimate is that some body who has very occassionaly posted here might or could have possibly vuilt the cook device and found it produced pulsed dc or dc. No hard info. No admission it was done but that is my assumption.

Problem is every body talks but no one would give information and are trying in a way to get information of others. Let us post in a constructive way.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3889 on: August 11, 2016, 07:22:08 PM »
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Offline marathonman

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3890 on: August 11, 2016, 07:41:50 PM »
Forest; Prove it, just don't move it, with the mouth. show us your ac driven FIGUERA device. right when pigs fly. to all who think ac can be used or part G can be replaced, you would be luckier getting a hooker and some crack.

please all of you, show this forum your ac driven device, ops ! you can't, because your living in a fantasy land with einstein,  quarks, strings and empty atoms.
you people should be ashamed of your selves for even posting such nonsense.

very appropriate Doug, you took the words right out of my mouth.


'theoretical postulations" omg!  what a moron, you have no idea what this man has and has done. you are not even in the same ball park let alone the same planet. i laugh at your post and spit on the very ground you walk on.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3891 on: August 11, 2016, 08:46:37 PM »
AC definately works because that was used as first replacement of rotating generator by Figuera. NRamaswami explained correctly  the reasons why Figuera switched to pulsed DC. Resistance is the only limit then.Cleverly choose wires and you can get huge ampere-turns and good resistance for example ...All has to match.

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Offline darediamond

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3892 on: August 11, 2016, 08:51:45 PM »
When they are hit hard out of there deceitful hiding, they start shovi g facing and crying like baby.

Competent Scientists have been applying AC to actualise Motional To and Fro movment in wire wound motionless magnetic core, the KITE is here crying nil of success stories of readily available Practically proven Theories.

Go tell Naudin, Thomas your story  to get a better summary of it Marathonman turned Dough.

You have been the one promoting lies and you ougth to defend it when  challenged before making a similar demand.

What do you still have to offer?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3893 on: August 11, 2016, 08:54:45 PM »

When they are hit hard out of there deceitful hiding, they start shoving faces and crying like a baby.

Competent Scientists have been applying AC to actualise Motional To and Fro movment in wire wound motionless magnetic core, the KITE is here crying nil of success stories of readily available Practically proven Theories.

Go tell Naudin, Thomas your story  to get a better summary of it Marathonman turned Dough.

You have been the one promoting lies and you ougth to defend it when  challenged before making a similar demand.

What do you still have to offer?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3894 on: August 11, 2016, 09:55:02 PM »
Marathonman And His Old Part G And Bucking Primaries Chapter 20  Pages 261 lol.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3895 on: August 11, 2016, 10:23:52 PM »
The Part G like I have been saying is a mechanical Inverter and unless you do what I did last year over a test Pulsed Motor I built in 2015 , you will never have a smoothly running Part G.

I shared the video with Ramaswami so get it from him to learn.

However do we still really need to use that cumbersome Part G to convert D.C to A.C?
 Practically NO is the answer because Motionless or non-mechanical D.C to A.C Inverter can now be easily bought or even built.

I am not against the Part-G per say. what I am against is making it appear as the only best option and of course telling  lies about the correct polarity of Figuera Gen which Marathonman the Kite is doing actively.

Infact I know 2 other mechanical means of converting  DC to AC.

Ramaswami,  Direct Current and Pulsing DC do not have frequency. But Pulsing DC can only be achieved using half bridge rectifier which means using one diode on one of the AC leads from an A.C source.

You can only make a D.C and Pulsing DC have frequency by passing them via a Transistor or MOSFET or mechanical Commutator.

So if you use thin gauge to wind the Primaries of your C.F MoGen, then you must use High Frequency and High Voltage.to quench there thirst for current. Increasing Voltage is not enough if you wanna really achieve overunity with.ease.

Also, the higher the frequency, the higher the Output Wattage ( V *I)

You do not  need high current to generate conc Flux. All you need is Serially Connected Multi strand Wire and High Frequency and optionally High Voltage.

But you must remember that your core must be Big enough to withstand the high frequency you will be applying or else, there will be Heat and Saturation. The Higher The Frequency, the Stronger The Flux Becomes. The Higher the speed at which you switch or Move the Flux, the higher the output Wattage Becomes.

You need not to saturate the Core to achieve over unity all you need is proper winding and connection style of the underlying, overlapping and central Secondary Windings as you can now have 3 split Secondaries for 2 opposing Primaries. The Secondaries must be in Opposing Mode I.e: NN or SS while the Primaries must be in Addition Mode I.e NS NS.

You must Buck the Secondaries.
Again it is best to use Moulded core as the unit will be smaller and Still Generate high output because it can withstand High Frequency.

Marathonman now over to you.....

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3896 on: August 12, 2016, 12:42:40 AM »

Be Wise.

Part G is a DC to AC converter in mechanical way.


Another one who does not understand the commutator Part G. Please read the patent again. Or maybe for the first time.

AC = 1 signal

Commutator = 2 signals, one to feed each set of electromagnets.


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Wind your Primaries in Attraction Mode  but your secondaries in Repulsion Mode and Utilise AC to activate the Motionless MOGEN youbhave just created.


Supoose two primaries and two secondaries coils in the middle of the primaries. If the primaries are in attraction mode the only field transversing both secondaries is:
N ---------------> S. As per Lenz, the induced field of each secondary will be <-------- in one secondary and  <-------- in the other secondary. Both opposing to the primary field. How the hell are you going to buck both secondaries? Impossible. No way

If the primaries are in repulsion their fields will be N -------> <--------- N  . In this case one secondary will oppose to its closer primary field: <--------  and the other secondary will oppose to the primary field of the other primary coil:  -------->. There you have two bucking secondary coils. Perfect bucking output coils. In this case you may use pulsed DC. You just need to collide two fields in the center point, right in the point between both secondaries coild, no need for movement of the fields in this design based in flux linking.

Summary :

Attraction  N ------------------------>  S
                       <--------    <---------

Repulsion  N ----------> <-----------  S
                       <---------    --------->

See this sketch of Daniel Dingel device. The second sketch is drawn by me

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3897 on: August 12, 2016, 04:38:04 AM »
 Diamond no inverter needed no work is mo beter.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT20j9lJYK8





 Shhh it's conspiracy dont tell diamond there is only one person on the internet.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3898 on: August 12, 2016, 05:10:29 AM »
Another one who does not understand the commutator Part G. Please read the patent again. Or maybe for the first time.

AC = 1 signal

Commutator = 2 signals, one to feed each set of electromagnets.


Hi, Hanon you can get two opposing poles with 2 signal of AC out of phase 90º.

See attach.

GM

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3899 on: August 12, 2016, 06:57:36 AM »
Gmolina,

Figuera used two signals unphased 180°, not 90°. The patent states clearly that when one was at maximum the other was at minimum and viceversa. That why he patented his commutator and included it in the patent claims. In other cases he has said that AC was valid. If that were the case some very smart guys as Darediamond will had used AC from other known method in that time, as a common geneerator, and they had bypassed the patent protection. That is not the case.

I wonder if people really had read in deepth the patents. At least the patents and understand them. Later you may test all possibilities with the polarity NN , SS,  NS. But for clear reason I think some users dont have the problem of not understanding the commutator. They are just creating confusion and hijacking this thread for some reason.... Patents are our bible. The rest are interpretations



 

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