Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics

  • *Total Members: 83623
  • *Latest: Govinda

  • *Total Posts: 514099
  • *Total Topics: 15349
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 2
  • *Guests: 16
  • *Total: 18

Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1547737 times)

Offline core

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 406
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3120 on: February 16, 2016, 05:08:42 AM »
1. Core is a continuous core of iron rods hammered in. Figuera device is based on Geometrical shape of the central coil being smaller than the primary coils. Smaller in length and diameter. The primary coils move the magnetic field towards the central core and move it away much like the clapping of hands. The device that you show in your picture has nothing whatever to do with Figuera or Buforn devices. I request you to study the patents again and look at the drawings again and understand it.
I respectfully disagree with you, my work is based on Figuera's principle and not the patent drawing. If I recall correctly from an article he stated:

"There is production of induced electrical current provided that you change in any way the flow of force through the induced circuit"

It wouldn't be natural if there was only one way to achieve these results. His device is an electromagnetic device, like others after him, personally I am looking to discover the principle of the invention and not replicate his patent design. I see no value in that.

To clear up my point, in the refrigeration field, the so-called "refrigeration effect" can be achieved with many styles of compressors, they are reciprocating, scroll, screw, and centrifugal. Each one has a completely different design and physical operation, however they all achieve the same basic principle. If we all concentrate on one design only, the patent design, our chances of failure are greatly increased. The secret will manifest itself with more then one design, it would be disingenuous for us to say there is only one approach.

I have read the patents, I have read all the patents, I am one of the few here that can read Spanish. I believe I already translated some of the Burfon patent some time ago. Also being able to read Buforns patents gives me a bit of an insight on his and Figuera's thought process. There is a lot of extra material in the Buforn patent including his description of the "ideal Generator". This may or may not be an advantage.

On this topic there is a interesting phrase that Buforn uses in his patent and it appears more then once. He states "....the current passes the magnetic field and returns the same from the two extremes of the entrance and exit of the resistance...." Some issues here are as follows, Buforn has some serious run on sentences (bad grammar). He sometimes goes a whole paragraph without a comma or a period. This makes translation tricky as it will come out fragmented.

He repeats the above statement again a few paragraphs down, this time he omits the section regarding the resistance. I will quote him directly here. "We got and produced an orderly and continuous change of the intensity of the current that traverses a magnetic field" .......... I dont understand how a current can traverse a magnetic field, any opinions? A current in a wire creates a magnetic field. I get the impression that the N and S we see in the patent are actually permanent magnets and on them are wound electromagnets. The electromagnets and the permanent magnet may very well be opposing each other. This theory I can experiment with due to the versatility of my device.

One can easily get the impression that the magnetic field is present prior to energizing the electromagnets ........... I don't know.

One thing I got from the Buforn patent, and I take as fact, is that the effect manifest itself in the Primary only (I am using Primary in a loose term). He states, and I will paraphrase only, "It is a grand energy" he also states the he defeats Lenz law prior to even utilizing these currents, and to use this grand current, here he says doing so is simple. (a basic coil)

So in essence, in interpreting Buforn you can create a grand current in only your primary and not even have a secondary coil on your system. 


2. Let me explain it like this.. You have two primary coils producing induction as indicated above with the secondary in the middle. primaries are connected in paralllel and secondary is separate. Now as per your theory Secondary can have up to COP= 0.95 which is common in transformers I guess. I think you would agree.

Now visualize this P1-S1-P2-S2-P3-S3-P4  For Four primaries connected in parallel you have three secondaries instead of two secondaries.

If you separately connect the P1-S1-P2 COP=0.95
If you separately connect the P3-S3-P4 COP=0.95
I was interested in how you are powering your Primary coils. Are you using Mains @ 220 volts? I recall you stating you also pulsed your coils. What mechanism did you use to pulse the coils and at what voltage. Did you use a mechanical chopper?

The square device that you show in your picture as a transformer device shows that device is not a Figuera device. That has nothing to do with Figuera concepts.
I personally don't classify a Figuera's device based on what it looks like. Read my comment above regarding the refrigeration compressors. What classifies a device should be its principle of operation and not it's appearance. But is cool, judging by looks really is human nature and it just show's your human.

The square devise is not a transformer, there is no direct communication between the coils. It is based on a change of magnetic field. Well, that is the concept. Basically it is the same principle that Figuera uses.


-Core

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline NoyPi

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 17
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3121 on: February 16, 2016, 10:11:03 AM »
Hmmm... It reminds me of a MEG presented by someone at energeticforum that has two opposing magnet..

Offline NRamaswami

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3122 on: February 16, 2016, 10:36:51 AM »
Sir..

Saw your post and have some time to respond..

I do not know any thing about Refrigeration or quite frankly speaking on any Electrical device. I'm a Lawyer and by some invisible force that kicks me that I have got in to this field.

I have tried to learn Electronics and this soldering thing got me such an allergy I have given it up. So if you say that the square device uses Figuera Principles it might well be and I do not know how your device works and so I have to agree with you particularly for I do not have any knowledge.

I used 220 volts AC from Mains. As far as I'm aware pulsed DC means simply one thing. If you give AC through a diode it produces half waves pulsed DC and if you give it through a diode bridge it will give full wave diode bridge..

BuForn is correct in saying that the Primaries do the job and the secondary coil just sits there if I understand the translation correctly. I do not  read spanish and I had a hard time requesting people to get it translated. Especially the last patent of BuForn.

I built a commutator, a custom built one as prescribed by Figuera design and it was not satisfactory. It created a lot of sparks when it ran fast and so the Electrical engineering student working with me made a step down gear to reduce the speed and we had to make it touch three points at one time to reduce the spark but it still had sparks at one contact place. So we gave up.

I have tried to use the FW diode bridge at 220 volts and it drew so much of current that the circuit braker tripped. So I do not use pulsed DC. I have tested it with 50 volts 16 amps step down transformer but the efficiency was low and so I gave it up. We have seen higher the voltage better is the performance. And when the coils are connected in parallel better is the performance.

My understanding is fairly limited on theory and so if what I write is nonsensical just simple plain ignore it as the blabbering of an ignorant person. I'm not a subject matter expert. 

I believe that when a coil is wire is looped around an iron core and current is passed electromagnet is created. The current is also present in the iron rods. This current is called Eddy current. This current is more if the magnetic field strength in the core is higher. So current can co-exist in iron rods along with magnetism. If you want to check this test the rods with a tester and you will see that the rods have current. Be careful and put on your rubber shoes and gloves and do not get in to any shock. Do not test this with DC for if you are suffer an accident DC will now allow you to withdraw your hand but AC will allow you to withdraw your hand and you can survive. I hope you are aware of these things. So yes current and magnetism exist together in iron rods.

The thing is this. You can make a given core a strong electromagnet or a weak electromagnet by controlling the current or by controlling the Ampere turns ( Number of turns per unit length). For the same current and same Ampere turns a smaller mass of Iron gets saturated but if you add more iron the magnetism is reduced. To reduce core saturation add more iron. That is the simple formula.

Ok So we have it here.

What is magnetism..We do not know much..

What is a permanent magnet.. When DC current is sent in the coils of wire the material becomes a permanent magnet. Depending on the combination of the material used the Permanent magnet may be a strong permanent magnet or weak permanent magnet. I'm also told that if we sent AC also through steel rods, steel will become permanent magnet always and to remove the magnetism it must be heated beyond the Curie Temperature ( what the heck is that? I do not know really) or we must provide current and bring down the voltage slowly using a Variac.

Soft iron rods are those that will become an electromagnet only when current is sent and will lose the magnetism the moment the current is cut off.

What is the difference between Permanent magnet and Electromagnet. Permanent magnets do not like electromagnets and oscillate violently if we keep them in our hands and move towards electromagnet. Some how this permanent magnet thing which is an inert lifeless thing knows that an electromagnet is present and oscillates in our hand. It does not like to be moved towards an electromagnet.  How the heck does it know that it is being moved towards an Electromagnet and why it does not like it.? I do not know..But this is how a permanent magnet behaves. So do magnets have life? We do not know. Permanent magnets also do not show any eddy current..Only Electromagnets show Eddy current. Permanent Magnet is cool to touch. Electromagnet is hot. How do I know? Without knowing any one of these things and the risks involved I used to stand on the wooden floor we have made and used to take the rods from inside the core by empty hand..God was so kind to me that I did not have any shocks for I was standing on the wood always. My driver tested it with tester and we were shocked oh my God Rod has current..Rod has heat and Rod has Magnetism..all in one place..This is the electromagnet.

So what exactly is magnetism? We do not know. Some very knowledgeable clients atttempted to teach me what the heck is Magnetism..I asked them hey you convert this rod to Permanent Magnet, Strong Magnet and Weak Magnet and Strong Electromagnet and weak electromagnet..The knowledgable clients did not know these practical things..So people do not know.

As I understand it, magnetism is like a gas. Same amount of core can have higher magnetism and can be saturated and can have lower magnetism.

You can compress gas and fill it up in a cylinder. The same gas can be given to a ballon and the balloon will become very big and the density of gas inside is so low that the balloon will starting floating in air. So we can think that the magnetism is like a gas.

Now this gas like Magnetism some how enters the iron rods when current is sent through the wires looped around it and a small amount of current is sufficient to create magnetism in a large amount of iron. This magnetism appears to come from air. Because apart from wire and current we do not have any thing else for this magnetism to come suddenly. It cannot come from another star. For we know Air is here and we also know that air has electrical charges. We call it static electricity..

Now because the magnetism is like a gas, it can be compressed and decompressed. If you provide a two primaries which current first like this
P1------>Y coil<---------P2 with the direction of rotation of current being same the situation is NS-NS-NS in all three cores. Ok..

Now if you make the Y coil secondary smaller than the primary coils the magnetism of both the primary coils each of 60 kgm enters the secondary of 30 kgm. So now we have magnetism compressed in the secondary coil.. Here the density of the magnetism becomes higher. Text books say that the strength of the magnetic field or saturation of the magnetic core or some thing like that but essentially it is a case where the density of the magnetism is higher. Let us say about 4 times higher than in the primary P1 and P2.

Now I gave you the example P1-S1-P2   Here we have primary current first moving like this ------>S1<------ and then they move like this
<------S1--------->

I think you would agree with me on this. When this happens the concentrated magnetism in S1 is weakened. So S1 is subjected to time varying magnetic field strength. Or the magnetism in S1 is made stronger and weaker. Electricity is induced when a conductor is subjected to time varying magnetic field is the rule of Electromagnetic Induction. We see that it is correct for secondary produces current. Connect the secondary to load lamps and lamps light up.

Again look at this The only thing that is done in P1 and P2 is for current move like this -----> and like this<------. That is all P1 and P2 does..

Now if you put P3 and P4 like this again and they do the same thing you have a similar situation and we will call the secondary placed there as S3..So S3 also produces a current.

But if you place all of them like a Train P1-S1-P2-S2-P3-S3-P4 . You see now the S2 gets magnetism increased and decreased. We need not provide any additional current for this in P1, P2,P3,P4..

This is some thing that you cannot agree and will not agree unless you do the experiment as indicated above. You will tell me where is this gas coming from in S2 unless we supply additional current..No need to supply additional current here.

Now forget your text books, forget your theories and listen to this dummy and do the test like this and connect the secondaries in series and connect the primaries in parallel and you will know. Please measure your readings without the S2 being present and with S2 being present as indicated. Any one any where can test these things. Primary does not require additional input to generate magnetism in S2 and hence additional output from S2.

This is how simply I can explain it. I apologize that I'm writing like this but this is the truth.

When Buforn says he has current and magnetism he refers like me ( He is also a Patent Attorney like me..Aha what a coincidence) to the Rods carrying Heat, as well as current as well as Magnetism..What a wonder of the world you see. It is so simple really. You need to create a large train like thing to get this magnetism thing to get in to iron. Most strangely if the wire has thick insulation more current is produced in the secondary and more current is drawn in the primary..No one talks about this except Daniel McFarland Cook in his 1871 Patent.

Is this a violation of Law of Conservation of Energy..No. The Law to be applied here is the Law of conservation of Energy for open systems. There is no violation of that law. Law of conservation for closed systems does not apply here. why? Neither Energy can get inside nor energy can get outside of a closed system. Here Magnetic poles are open.

Incidentally in your device Magnetism will leak enormously at the edges of the square. Magnetism likes to leak out of any system.

This is all I know..Please I beg you to understand that I do not know much..I cannot write about the improvements I have made to these concepts let us say improvements of dummy..but they are so commonsense.

I do not understand how Lenz law first comes if there is no secondary. I can tell you how to defeat Lenz law in a single core solenoid easily as I have already done it. That is a non issue really but Lenz law comes only if there is a secondary. Not otherwise.

I apologize if I have miscommunicated or hurt you in any way without intending to do so. Please I'm not trained in this subject and I do not know much about any thing. So I can only tell you what I have observed.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3122 on: February 16, 2016, 10:36:51 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline darediamond

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3123 on: February 16, 2016, 05:51:50 PM »
I believe to attain Overunity in any Electromagnetic power generator,  lens law Must FISRT OF ALL be subdued in it design.

One way to easily a achieve that according to Tesla is via Clockwise and Counterclowise coil winding style as well Series conneted Multifilar coil as Ramaswami MEG shows.

The exccess power in Ramaswami TrafoGen comes from the air as Radiant Eletricity.

So it means the syst can be looped. All is needed apart from killing lenz, winding Multifilar Primaries is An HIGH VOLTAGE HIGH FREEQUENCY AC DRIVEN PRIMARY.

And to get that High Frequency and Voltage Power Supply, you need to make Your own Pure Sine wave Variable Frequency and Variable or adjustable Voltage High Voltage Inverter.

The core in the inverter must be Moulded to pave way for High Frequency Osscilations from the MOSFETs.

If you drive your inverter tramsformer at High Freequeny, Your Primaries in the Rama.TrafoGen will generate Enormously Gigantic Flux for the Secondary at very low Power Consumption of the Primaries. When you achieve this, you will be able to attain COMPLETE 100% Overunity.

Even if you use low voltage like 300VAC, and you Primaries are wound with say AWG#20, at High Frequency like 200hz and above, your mulftifilar wound Primaries will consume very low wattage

The to and fro of the AC readily allows the the Radiant Powèr to boots the Otput of the Secondary.

You need modrately high resistance in your Primaries to keep amperage consumption low even at high frequency.

But in all, High frequency and Multifilar Anti-lenz winding is the Major Key.

Once you are able to keep to all these, you only need High Farad SuperCapacitor Bank instead of Batteries, Inverter and an Home-made Coreless Mini Axial Permanent Magnet Handcrank-able Generator to Kickstart the System and Generate Power for life.





Offline Glenn_FR

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3124 on: February 16, 2016, 06:46:47 PM »
I believe to attain Overunity in any Electromagnetic power generator,  lens law Must FIRST OF ALL be subdued in it design.
I'm OK with that statement, and it's probably pertinent here for the Figuera device.
One way to easily a achieve that according to Tesla is via Clockwise and Counterclockwise coil winding style as well Series connected Multifilar coil as Ramaswami MEG shows.
I'm not sure that I understand the CW / CCW thing for electromagnet coils - or is it the same as bifilare ?
[...]
So it means the syst can be looped. All is needed apart from killing lenz, winding Multifilar Primaries is An HIGH VOLTAGE HIGH FREQUENCY AC DRIVEN PRIMARY.
[...]
But that isn't what Figuera did.  I'm not saying that it won't work (I'm even fairly OK with the statement) - but it ISN'T the Figuera device.

Apart from that, I've been winding some more coils, but my impatience is getting the better of me.  I've wound two new coils on round formers, in order to try a different "iron" (*) core.   I've wound them bifilare and pretty-much identical (2 x 2 equal lengths of wire), but I didn't measure my length of wire, nor the number of turns...  Shame on me.  I have one other same length of wire so when it's less cold outside I'll try and measure it around a drum.

I'm not convinced about the bifilare windings...  Certainly I have less heat generation than before, but I'm not sure that the magnetic field is any stronger.

Sigh.   Back to the drawing board...

(*)  I'm doing all this on a very shoe-string budget.  Apart from the coil formers that I can print (while I still have plastic filament), everything else is salvage...  And there are no metal engineering firms roundabouts, they've all closed-down, to give advice and/or samples of different iron stock.  So I have to try by experiment with what I find - hoping that if/when I do  find something that works well I can find a way of identifying it in order to "procure" more.

I wonder, did Prof. Figuera get his students to wind his coils for him?  It's a tedious business!

More soon.
Glenn

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3124 on: February 16, 2016, 06:46:47 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline hanon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 613
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3125 on: February 16, 2016, 09:05:21 PM »
My view: Stop postulating new designs and just return to the patent design.

A user has posted this in another forum:

"Hola,
Pensaba que después de tanto tiempo ya quedaba claro que son necesarias más de un grupo de bobinas, todas interactúan unas con otras
Cuando le pongo carga a las bobinas recolectoras o las conecto en corto circuito, las bobinas recolectoras cercanas tienen un incremento de voltaje de un 20 a un 30 por ciento.
Esto demuestra que se puede reutilizar Lenz y que todas las bobinas interactúan unas con otras"

-------------------

I am interested in posting into overunityresearch forum. I think that to be a member there you need an invitation. If a user read this and he may give me an invitation I will be very grateful. If so, please PM with the instructions. Thanks


Offline darediamond

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3126 on: February 16, 2016, 11:54:33 PM »
Hanon, I like Mr. Ramaswami is talking about solution here not just anyhow thought from the blues
Must humans act like a Robot?
The principle to attain overunity or fueless generator lies in killing LENZ which can be done I'm several ways and that is what Overunity.com is Primarily directly and indirectly about.
So Patent or no Patent we must Talk about Solutions. And any man-made Solution or law can be modified.
Get it?
 
My view: Stop postulating new designs and just return to the patent design.

A user has posted this in another forum:

"Hola,
Pensaba que después de tanto tiempo ya quedaba claro que son necesarias más de un grupo de bobinas, todas interactúan unas con otras
Cuando le pongo carga a las bobinas recolectoras o las conecto en corto circuito, las bobinas recolectoras cercanas tienen un incremento de voltaje de un 20 a un 30 por ciento.
Esto demuestra que se puede reutilizar Lenz y que todas las bobinas interactúan unas con otras"

-------------------

I am interested in posting into overunityresearch forum. I think that to be a member there you need an invitation. If a user read this and he may give me an invitation I will be very grateful. If so, please PM with the instructions. Thanks

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3126 on: February 16, 2016, 11:54:33 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline NRamaswami

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3127 on: February 17, 2016, 10:29:24 AM »
Dear All:

Please..I have a Humble Request to all...

There are Five persons who are responsible for a reasonable level we are here today with this thread and with this particular device model..

1. Prof Figuera who invented the first device..
2. Patent Attorney and Inventor Mr. BuForn who improved upon Figueras device.
3. Hanon who got the patents of Figuera to the Light and reported them.
4. An utterly incompetent and Lazy person by name Ramaswami who was and who is a dummy..Since he was and is incapable of understandng complicated things he had to simplify them.
5. One 1492 Person. People of knowledge know who is this 1492 person.. This person compelled Ramaswami to continue the experiments and forced him to continue the experiments..
6.  Mr. Patrick Kelly who mentored Ramaswami  and answered nearly 1000 emails asking for doubts clarifications etc etc.and who today has elected not to respond to him..

And

Somebody or some thing that kept on forcing Ramaswami to do the experiments.

Today the Figuera device major part looks clear..

It is a large number of primary coils. Let us P1 to P10. In between the opposite poles of the two primary cores is placed the secondary coil. All Primaries are connected in parallel and all secondaries are connected in series. The primaries are made of thin wires and have higher turns but the secondaries are made up of thick wires and may not have a higher turn than the Primaries. It depends on the wire diameter of the secondary and the magentic field strength of the core and the voltage needed. So this is the device we have here..Simple only.. Dummies can construct it only..Very low cost only..But it will work any where in the world only..

It has been stated indirectly by others and directly by Ramaswami with specific Numbers that this device produces COP>1 output and that this was achieved in 1908 officially for the first time by Prof Figuera.

Hanon wants that this must be replicated in the same way as stated by Figuera for he wants to claim something for his country and to restore the Forgotten Professor Figuera to Eminence.

This thread would not be here without Hanon..

Randy has given a kind of kick on the butt ( he did not really. he asked I'm a man from Missouri..Show Me where is the device that is started and runs on its own.. Is the spelling correct?

Unfortunately I have kind of disagreement on the purpose of the commutator..As made by us the commutator makes lot of sparks..It is a rotating charged metallic body suddenly making and breaking contacts with other metallic contacts..So it makes sparks and quite a lot of long distance sparks..That essentially means it produces High Voltage and possibly High Frequency and low amperage currents.. So I think if a copper cylinder is placed around the commutator in close contact

and

if wires from the copper drum or cylinder kind of thing or surrounding plates go to the Electromagnets

the Primary Electromagnets will get a lot of High voltage and High Freuqnecy current and this will result in high output in secondary and the High Voltage is the reason why the Primary coil ends go to Earth points..

This is the simple reasoning that comes to my mind. There was no need for Primaries to have resistors except to present the least effective method of operation of device ( All scientists do this and they are supposed to disclose the Best mode and even Buforn does not provide the Best mode)..Actually it is not Ramaswami but Antijon who disclosed this best mode of operation fact that parallel winding of primaries would provide a higher output in the secondary coils connected in series with sufficient number of turns although it was done by Ramaswami and Narayanan much earlier and forgotten by Ramaswami and then recollected by him.. (I went through an enormously distressing period and so I was not suppressing information..I provided the document a few months after July 2013 when we first ran the successful experiment and made a COP>8 result but could not actually measure it due to the high voltage and our fear of low frequency and high voltage current which is dangerous really.. My Electrician Narayanan passed away I think two or three months after that and then I suffered a chest pain..It is only after that I made the Ramaswami Doc as advised by Mr. Patrick Kelly)

Hanon Kind of disagrees with me and he feels that the commutator provided no sparks and it is a high amperage current DC commutator which needed the resistors to boost the voltage. This theoretical disconnect would not come had I been able to make a DC commutator that did not create sparks. Unfortunately I was not able to make it.

As per theorey Hanon is correct. The model should work perfect. Hanon is learned in Magnetics as taught today and what he thinks is in accordance with what is taught.

But it is not working out for me. that is very unfortuante. I have tried with 12 volts and 16 amps and only when the voltage increases output in secondary is higher.

This is not stated in Magnetics theories. Also it is common sense that to reduce the core saturation we must create a large core. This is also not stated. Mutiple primaries impacting on a common secondary produces a Ginormous induced emf. You do not get this info any where. I'm unable to believe that what is provided in Magnetics texts is accurate. Again for some reason no funding for magnetics research. Persons who are theoretically trained to teach this subject is also few even in India. We have a Magnetic Labs only in US and it is strictly controlled by obligations imposed for Research funding and access is very limited.

While the thought of Hanon is correct by the theory of Magnetism, like Magnetic Field strength = Amperes x Number of turns per unit length..

What I see in practice is higher the voltage higher the output and it is not based on Amperage. Higher the Frequency lower the amperage is the rule. It is seen in Tesla coils where spark is able to light up lamps but does not produces any shock to us. It creates high frequency burnout skin effects though if exposed for sufficient time and if we actually hold hte electrodes on our skin but it does not cause any shock.

But let us ignore all these things.. As the person who brought the patents to Light Hanon is entitled to ask that we attempt to replicate the Patent.

It is unfortunately very very vague. Multiple Interpretations are possible. Not just one.

I have opened a new thread Self Running Electricity Generator.. Please discuss your thought processes on it.

Let us Honor Prof. Figuera and Hanon here. We owe it to him and should not be disrespectful. Without Hanon this kind of Information would not have come to us. Without the infor we would not have experimented., And only because my Electrician Narayanan Passed away and then I had a chest pain I decided to make the knowledge of whatever we did public domain..so it can benefit others.

There is another reason for Hanons insistence on replicating the patent.. Because it is in public domain no one can claim any ritht to use such a device..

We owe a Moral duty to honor Hanon..

And finally It is the 1492 person who financed me after I made the disclosure of Ramaswami device and decided to wind up and insisted that I continue..He has in fact asked me to file a patent but I have refused for filng a Patent would enable the Government  to direct me to keep quiet and destory every thing and not do any thing further in National Interest. If I do not file for a patent it remains a Fundamental right of freedom of speech and freedom scientific research which it is the duty of the Government to promote.

So please we have reached a major stage here.

The only thing you need to take the Overunity price is multiple primaries multiple secondaries and send current through the primaries in parallel and collect the output in the serially connected thicker secondary coil. Let us move on to the continuously running device..Fuelless Generator or what not.in a separate thread,. But leave this only for replication attempts of Figuera device..Please..Thank you.

Offline darediamond

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3128 on: February 17, 2016, 11:37:19 AM »
Okay all well said and heard Lawyer Ramaswami. Thanks to Hanon for his selflessness too. 100 Gunshots to Air to Him alone. I dolf my hat Sir!

::::::::::::::::::::::
Mr Ramaswami, what do you PRACTICALLY  mean by connecting the primaries in Parallel againn?

2, yesterday or so, you said there is a way to kill Lens in a Single Solenoid. How can that be practically done Sir?


Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3128 on: February 17, 2016, 11:37:19 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline NRamaswami

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 475
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3129 on: February 17, 2016, 12:30:24 PM »
Dare Diamond:

I will answer your Lens Law question in the new thread. Thanks

Offline darediamond

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 176
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3130 on: February 17, 2016, 01:13:36 PM »
Dare Diamond:

I will answer your Lens Law question in the new thread. Thanks
May I have  the link to the new thread Sir?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3130 on: February 17, 2016, 01:13:36 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Online citfta

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 819

Offline RandyFL

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 196
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3132 on: February 17, 2016, 10:56:48 PM »
Hello All,
Any updated news about a paralleled device... Hanon had stated someone was getting results in a Spanish forum...

Referring to the repulsion method...posted Reply #3087...Is the 2 primaries and the secondary in a non magnetic tube with the secondary just close to the primaries ?
 

R

Offline hanon

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 613
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3133 on: February 18, 2016, 12:12:37 AM »
Two user saying to have success, one in this forum, and one in the spanish forum, are stating the same: more than one single set is required, because sets seems to interact and increase the output.

Both users say that with one set they could not find OU. One user got it with 2 sets and same poles confronted, and the commutator. The other user think that a minimum of 4 sets are required. He also used same poles  confronted, but he is just using pulsed DC, as the 1902 patent.. Pay attention..!!

I need to build my second set !!

Randy, all the info that I think it is important about same poles confronted is collected in my website, in the Globe Sketch below my username

Good luck

Offline Doug1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 763
Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3134 on: February 19, 2016, 01:12:40 PM »
Hannon

 I think I will just stick with this thread if you dont object Hannon. Im not a real big fan of integrated circuits and ic's. They just have not proven more reliable or durable in the long run making them not cheaper against down time or initial expense. I never take for granted that when a person says they have a great deal on something which will make it all easier cheaper better,they might actually be telling a fib that is only to end up being to their benefit. It does not benefit the model of commerce to produce your own anything so it is unlikely that any real effort will come from commerce minded people who are only looking to get rich easy. Even if they are wrong in the possible execution of their get rich easy plan. If it was easy someone would already be doing it. If it was politically possible or socially sustainable someone would already be doing it. I cant think of or imagine a single reason to fix what is not broken to make it more complicated and less dependable for the benefit of a few companies who make electronics who I usually spend my time cursing for making such crap parts. There were no electronics at the end of the 1800's early 1900's and yet they built the world we live in and made it possible for the digital age. The digital age seems to built for corruption and criminal minded greedy people.
   I would like to know why you continue to call part G a commutator. When have you ever seen a commutator that looks like part G?

 

OneLink