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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1245 on: April 23, 2014, 12:32:54 PM »
Hannon
 Motion is relative to the frame of reference of the observer.Or in this case to the frame of reference of the coil it acts upon. The movement of the magnetic field as seen by the coil isnt dependent on moving the magnet if you have command over the magnetic field when created with or by current you just have to provide reversal of motion from the point of view of the coil it is effecting. The motion will turn up as transformation or induction depending on if it is viewed by the coil as linking or cutting. The point of view that counts is the middle coils point of view.
 Your going to want that back emf to go into the other coil but not with out control over the time it takes to do so.
 Try a table top experiment with one coil and two magnets and a analog meter that will show you that it acts just like pushing a single magnet all the way through the coil so both N and S poles swing the meter pos and neg. only your using two N or two S poles with a gap between them. <=>  Edison made a generator simular to it a long time ago but he used horse shoe magnets and moved the coil in between the poles driven by a prime mover to make the frame of coils move in relation to the horse shoe magnets.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1246 on: April 23, 2014, 03:13:58 PM »
Hanon,


sorry, I meant "or it may flow trough the other PRIMARY"  ::) ...


I have to confess, I know the official definition of the Lorentz force, but I tend to think it is basicly just a Back magnetomotive force like the Lenz effect, but it appears to be unrelated to the pole axis because it increases linear to the inductive coupling, which depends on axis alignement. I probably should consult a book or two  8) .


Whether like or opposite poles should be used, a socket flow or not, and what frequency, if a test device is once built, this can all be tested in every possible conFigu(E)ra-tion. I have made some tests, as blogged earlier, but my meters are really limited and/or unreliable, and my core also has no gaps as seen in the patent. So I'm looking forward to see some test data by you guys.


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« Reply #1247 on: April 27, 2014, 10:02:08 PM »
It's been a while since I've been here but I have not been idle.

To recap, the Figuera and Buforn patents are the same thing. The patent drawings are intentionally misleading, in particular, the hinted at coil construction and the missing magnetic circuit. The working principle is the variation of the excitation current in the field coils or the inducing coils as they are called in the patent, in a dynamo. That is all it is, period, the end.

In other words, if you want to be successful then stop building transformers and build a dynamo instead.

The actual DC generator or dynamo is constructed according to the known design principles of the time, those in use around 1900. That means it has an outer steel looped frame with the field coils attached to the inside of it in pairs of north and south, with a minimum of two coils. The induced or armature coils are inside of the frame and the magnetic flux from the field coils passes directly through the induced wires.

The armature coils are not round, they have two straight sides with one side adjacent to a positive field coil pole shoe and the other side adjacent to a negative pole shoe.

The magnetic circuit must direct the flux in a loop from a N coil pole shoe through the induced wire of the armature, through the armature, out through the opposite induced wire of the same coil loop, through a S coil pole shoe and back through the outer frame to the first N coil. The flux path must be of sufficient cross section at all points of the circuit to carry the number of flux lines used.

A dynamo design is based on the number of lines of magnetic flux cut by the armature coils per second as it rotates. The number of flux lines is determined by the area of the field coil pole shoe and the strength of the field coil magnetic properties; type of iron and ampere turns and current. Since ours will not rotate you must calculate based on the flux lines intersecting the copper wire diameter and the number and length of induced wires that will fit adjacent to the pole shoe.

If you want to succeed you must build a dynamo of sufficient size to produce more than enough voltage and current to run the little commutator motor, or your solid state circuit. The current from the dynamo will provide the current for the field coils, just as it does in the old designs. You will need a temporary separate power source sufficient to provide the full startup volts and current needed by your particular dynamo, whatever that may be.

One more tip. By varying the field excitation current according to the patent, you will need to use a commutator and wire sized for additional current since the variation will produce an average current. In other words if your field coils require 2 amps then size the commutator, brush, and wire for 4 amps. The same goes for a solid state circuit.

Here is my parting gift to you. A book written by W. Benison Hird, B.A., M.I.E.E. who was a lecturer on dynamo design at the Glasgow and West of Scotland Technical College. Published in 1908. It contains everything you need to know. Want a dynamo that produces a continuous 500 volt, 200 amp DC, and only requires 19.8 amps of excitation current? It's in there.
Elementary Dynamo Design https://archive.org/details/elementarydynamo00hirdrich

Best Regards to all

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« Reply #1248 on: April 28, 2014, 03:41:15 AM »
Thank you. I am looking forward to studying the document.
My commutator still sparks a little. Still working on it.
Thank you again,

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1249 on: April 28, 2014, 02:51:23 PM »
It's been a while since I've been here but I have not been idle.

To recap, the Figuera and Buforn patents are the same thing. The patent drawings are intentionally misleading, in particular, the hinted at coil construction and the missing magnetic circuit. The working principle is the variation of the excitation current in the field coils or the inducing coils as they are called in the patent, in a dynamo. That is all it is, period, the end.

In other words, if you want to be successful then stop building transformers and build a dynamo instead.

The actual DC generator or dynamo is constructed according to the known design principles of the time, those in use around 1900. That means it has an outer steel looped frame with the field coils attached to the inside of it in pairs of north and south, with a minimum of two coils. The induced or armature coils are inside of the frame and the magnetic flux from the field coils passes directly through the induced wires.

The armature coils are not round, they have two straight sides with one side adjacent to a positive field coil pole shoe and the other side adjacent to a negative pole shoe.

The magnetic circuit must direct the flux in a loop from a N coil pole shoe through the induced wire of the armature, through the armature, out through the opposite induced wire of the same coil loop, through a S coil pole shoe and back through the outer frame to the first N coil. The flux path must be of sufficient cross section at all points of the circuit to carry the number of flux lines used.

A dynamo design is based on the number of lines of magnetic flux cut by the armature coils per second as it rotates. The number of flux lines is determined by the area of the field coil pole shoe and the strength of the field coil magnetic properties; type of iron and ampere turns and current. Since ours will not rotate you must calculate based on the flux lines intersecting the copper wire diameter and the number and length of induced wires that will fit adjacent to the pole shoe.

If you want to succeed you must build a dynamo of sufficient size to produce more than enough voltage and current to run the little commutator motor, or your solid state circuit. The current from the dynamo will provide the current for the field coils, just as it does in the old designs. You will need a temporary separate power source sufficient to provide the full startup volts and current needed by your particular dynamo, whatever that may be.

One more tip. By varying the field excitation current according to the patent, you will need to use a commutator and wire sized for additional current since the variation will produce an average current. In other words if your field coils require 2 amps then size the commutator, brush, and wire for 4 amps. The same goes for a solid state circuit.

Here is my parting gift to you. A book written by W. Benison Hird, B.A., M.I.E.E. who was a lecturer on dynamo design at the Glasgow and West of Scotland Technical College. Published in 1908. It contains everything you need to know. Want a dynamo that produces a continuous 500 volt, 200 amp DC, and only requires 19.8 amps of excitation current? It's in there.
Elementary Dynamo Design https://archive.org/details/elementarydynamo00hirdrich

Best Regards to all

Hi Cadman,

Thanks for your kind help. I have a couple of questions:

1- How can we get the wires cut by the magnetic flux? Dynamos are based on that principle but for that the wire must be moved laterally to the magnetic lines. We need to emulate some kind of relative movement to induce the wires!!

2- What the difference between building a transformer and a dynamo? I understand that in transformers the magnetic flux do not hit the wires, just pass across the coil (flux linking). In dynamos the flux must cut the wires (flux cutting), this take us to the first question again: how can we get the flux cutting laterally the wires?

Thanks for your kind help. Your post is exciting with so many tips. Any good result from your device?  I am happy with your help. This night I will study in deep your tips, now I am short of time.

Regards

PS. Which pages on the book you recommend us to read?
« Last Edit: April 28, 2014, 05:37:38 PM by hanon »

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« Reply #1250 on: April 28, 2014, 03:49:33 PM »
hey guys newbie here looking for some advice. im wanting to build a fe devise to power an electric bike or car. this means needs to be portable a small enough. any suggestions would be awesome.

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« Reply #1251 on: April 28, 2014, 09:53:24 PM »
Exactly, what is the difference hanon ? I think it's easy to find. Just answer the most simple question : what is the basic difference between transformer and dynamo principle ? The answer is always in question. We saw it in equations...
I think most of us here know that part of answer now. I will not  tell what I mean because I learned that the only comprehention is when two people found own interpretations and then agree, every explanation lead to confusion, but here we have something very simple...



The only trouble is how Figuera was able to do so .... incredible indeed...because it looks like impossible task...




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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1252 on: April 29, 2014, 01:50:23 AM »
Hi Cadman,
since my first post, i was waiting for such observation! you got ist my friend:)

Hola Hanon,
si hablo espaniol: https://archive.org/stream/dynamoitstheory02wallgoog#page/n154/mode/2up

THE SECRET IS THE TORIDAL ROTOR AS SEEN IN THE FIRST DYNAMOS MACHINES (remember the introductions in the patents, the first spot or the starting point of Figuera`s investigations).
as we dont want to rotate anything, there is no need to make it round, only if you want to re-use some existing stuffs...


Enjoy, comment & share!
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« Reply #1253 on: April 29, 2014, 02:24:04 AM »
Oh yes!,
we have to adapt this code to do the multi-Phase sine wave (6 Phases needed to get 3 Phase figueras generator, 2 phases are also wellcome).
each 2 Phases must be set at 90º of Phases, in order to work together, so we get ONE Phase. then the next 2 phases schould also be set at 90º and theire output should be set at 120º from the first output phase, and the same with the other 2 phases (5&6).

In the modern Pure sine waves inverters, we have:
1: 12/24VDC to 300VDC booster (we need this to start the system)
2: H-Bridge feeded with the 300VDC (ore less) & gated by SPWM (in PIC uC we can use CCP  Modules)
3: LC Thank to smouth the 220VAC output
4: make transformer as in the drawings (wind extra coil for the looping: 100V & 1 A or 2A no more)

I may be wrong, but  we are to learn from each other...at least that s what i think....

Code it & share it with the world! dont be selfish! this planet need our urgent help...
Chemtrails are not a solution, killing peoples ist not the soluction, making money with others blood ist not a solution!!!...wake up humman race!!!!

NMS

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« Reply #1254 on: April 29, 2014, 03:25:09 AM »

..lets be hummans :http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WY5PcZCsCP0/Ulh4YDbf1iI/AAAAAAAAAyk/5OQ2_3qLdTc/s400/Child+of+my+heart.jpg
thats all for now...
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« Reply #1255 on: April 29, 2014, 05:14:17 AM »
Hi Hanon,

The cutting of flux lines is just a convenient way to describe a concept of magnetic field strength. Faraday's law states that any change in the magnetic field passing through a wire will induce an emf. It makes no difference if the change is from movement of the wire through the field or the change is a variation of the field strength. The convention used is, the number of lines of force passing through a unit area indicates the strength of the magnetic field at that point. In a dynamo, as the field strength increases from additional current passing through the field coil, the number of magnetic lines per unit area increases. This has the same effect as a movement of the armature wire by rotation. This is your emulation of relative movement.

Study the first 87 pages of the book as this starts with the basics used in the book and takes you through the design process. It is particularly helpful because the process starts with a set of specifications the finished dynamo must meet and designs a dynamo to meet those specifications.

This is a concept drawing I am using to layout my generator armature coils and other things. It's a work in progress. As noted elsewhere neither the armature nor the field yoke need to be round, but I am adhering to the radial layout of the coils. After studying the book you will see the advantages of the dynamo over a transformer for generating current and you should also see the advantages of the Figuera design for performance vs a common dynamo.

@NoMoreSlave,
Nice work, I wish you success.

Regards


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1256 on: April 29, 2014, 05:51:25 PM »
Hi Fellows.

Your Figuera project is quite interesting and I find your development, for the most part, to be of great value.
Some have spent considerable work and intellect - thank you!

Two areas I have not seen addressed to date in any great detail, but may be of value, involve the work of Dr. Andrey MELNICHENKO. These being "gaps" between ferromagnetic cores and "resonance" in electric circuits. {Further "gap" work => Dr. Harold Aspden.}
 
In particular; the use of a "gap" separating a primary and one, or a number of, secondary ferromagnetic cores to achieve a performance index of 120-150%, or more, on ferrites and alloys. This technique is evident in the work of others but the concept, explanations and experiments of Melnichenko (Melnichenco), IMHO are presented well and easily understood. Unfortunately there is not a lot of information available anymore regarding his theories, methods and techniques.

The Figuera patents, at first glance, appear to be somewhat the same as the "end-to-end" "stacking of cores with coils" referred to by Melnichenko. Both gentlemen also allude to adding additional "stacks" in an effort to provide more output. Also in common is that the output loads do not have any substantial affect on the input - no apparent Lens Law or other effects are present. It's not a transformer action per se, but more related to a relatively unknown "magnetic coupling" mechanism.

Much of the early "gap" work seems to have stemmed from studies by Tesla and others around the same period as Fuguera, at the beginning of the last century.

In general, Fuguera's approach seems to offer other interesting attributes; for example, excitation signals (the commutator) can provide very fast rise and fall times [near spark gap in nature] while still remaining "above the ground potential." Very rapid magnetic field expansion [dv/dt] is found in many OU devices. His commutator provides a stable but adjustable "controller mechanism" or, using today's state-of-the-art, all precision mechanics can be eliminated. Modular "stacked cores" might easily provide various outputs, as required. His system might also be made small, noiseless and quite reliable.

Over the last months it appears similar methods and techniques are rapidly converging with a heightened realization and optimism. Anyway, more food-for-thought.

@all - Great work and have a productive week...

Some links and related information:

http://ferromagnetic-energy.ru/

http://ferromagnetic-energy.ru/core_of_the_physical_effect/

Brief Explanation Notes:
   Magnetisable wind => magnetic fields,
   triblet => (ferromagnetic) core,
   aerial (dielectric) distance => gap with or without dielectric spacer,
   wind => copper or other wire windings.

http://ferromagnetic-energy.ru/core_of_the_physical_effect/ex_1/

Perform the experiment(s); it is quite enlightening at worst!
[See the bottom of page - Experiment; Equipment...; Sequence; download video (video not available?)]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djy5J0kiL58
 
This is the only video clip I could find still in the public domain. It is in Russian but contains English subtitles (a bit hard to read but worth the effort).

The following "cut-and-paste" is included to provide somewhat of a backdrop:

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"Here is translation of some of Melnichenco work.. ;)

Out respect for copyrights, I have attached it its entirely..


The following article was printed in the Indian newspaper The Hindu, Science & Technology Supplement, November 20, 1997. It appears to be a translation of a Russian article written by Konstantin Smirnov, RIA Novosti.

Electric resonance for power generation
When Dr. Andrei Melnichenco, a physicist specialising in electrodynamics in the city of Chekhov near Moscow, called our editorial office and described his invention, I did not believe him. But my mistrust did not perplex the inventor, and he offered to demonstrate his device.

The device consists of several batteries and a small converter to change direct current into alternating current (220V, 50Hz) using electric motor.

The power of this motor is far greater than that of the power source. When a small plate with several assemblies is added to the chain of components and switched on, the motor begins to pick up speed in such a way that it would be possible to set an abrasive circle on it and sharpen a knife.

In another experiment, a fan serves as the final component of the device. At first, its blades are slowly rotating but, after a special unit is connected in sequence with it, the fan immediately gains speed and makes a good 'breeze'. All this looked strange, primarily from the standpoint of the law of conservation of energy.

Seeing my perplexity, Melnichenko explained that the process taking place in his device are simple enough, and are based on the phenomenon of electric resonance.

Despite the fact that this phenomenon has been known for more than a century, it is only rarely used in radio engineering and communications electronics where amplification of a signal by many times is needed.

Resonance is not used much in electrical engineering and power generation. By the end of the last century, the great scientist Nicola Tesla used to say that without resonance, electrical engineering was just a waste of energy.

No one attached any importance to this pronouncement at that time. Many of Tesla's works and experiments, for instance the transmission of electricity by one unearthed wire, have only recently been explained.

The scientist staged these experiments a century ago, but it has only been in our days that S. V. Avramenko has managed to reproduce them. This also holds true for the transmission of electric power by means of electromagnetic waves and resonance transformers.

"My first experiments with high-frequency resonance transformers produced results which, to say the least do not always accord with the law of the conservation of energy, but there is a simple mathematical and physical explanation of this", Melnichenko says.

"I have designed several special devices and electric motors which contain many of these ideas and which may help them achieve full resonance in a chain when it consumes energy only in the form of the thermal losses in the winding of the motor and wires of the circuits while the motor rotates without any consumption of energy whatsoever.

"This was shown during the demonstration", the inventor goes on to say. "The power, supplied to the motors, was less than was necessary for their normal operation! I have called the new physical effect transgeneration of electric power. Electric resonance is the principle underlying the operation of the device".

This effect can be very widely used. For instance, electric resonance motors may be employed in electric cars. In this case the storage batteries' mass is minimal.

The capacity, developed by an electric motor, exceeds the supplied electric power by many times, which may be used for devising absolutely autonomous propulsion power units - a kind of superpower plant under the hood.

The battery-driven vehicles, equipped with such power plants, would not need frequent recharging because, just as is the case of an ordinary engine, it would only need storage batteries for an electric start.

All the results have been confirmed by hundreds of experiments with resonances in electric motors (both ordinary and special).

In special motors, it is possible to achieve the quality of resonance in excess of 10 units. The technology of their manufacture is extremely simple while the investments are minimal. The results are superb!

Electromechanics is only the first step. The next are statical devices, which are resonance-based electric power generators.

For instance, a device, supplied at the input with power equal to that of three 'Energizer' batteries can make a 100-watt incandescent lamp burn at the exit.

The frequency is about 1 MHz. Such a device has a rather simple circuit, and is based on resonance. Using it, it is possible to by far increase the power factor of energy networks, and to drastically cut the input (reactive) resistance of ordinary transformers and electric motors.

But creation of fundamentally new, environmentally clean electric power generators is the most important application of electric resonance.

A resonance-based energy transformer will become the main element of such devices. The employment of conductors with very low active resistance - cryoelectrics - for their windings will make it possible to increase power by hundreds and thousands of times, in proportion to resonance qualities of the device.

The Russian Academy of Sciences, in its review says that the principle underlying the operation of the devices does not rouse doubts in theory and in practice, and that the work of the resonance-based electric systems is not in conflict with the laws of electrophysics.

Konstantin Smirnov
RIA Novosti From: Elling Olsen
To: Jerry Decker
Subject: Electric resonance for power generation
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 10:59:49 +0100

Hi,

The attached article was printed in the Indian newspaper The Hindu, Science & Technology Supplement, November 20, 1997. It appears to be a translation of a Russian article written by Konstantin Smirnov, RIA Novosti.

I typed it using WordPad in Windows 95, so you should easily be able to read it and change the file format to whatever you need. Of course I hope the document will be to find on KeelyNet for everyone to read and I will feel good for having contributed ;-) Keep up the good work.

Elling Olsen, eol@norman.no "
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Sorry for the long post - I hope your still awake!  :)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1257 on: April 29, 2014, 09:30:24 PM »
Thanks Cadman,
Wish you also success with your researches.
Your approach is based on today construction of generator. This optimization was done in the past due to complexity of engineering the Gramme Ring for massive production (done by hand).
But his approach still more efficient in terms of the power output….lot of criticism and also positive opinion about the ring.

INMHO, Figuera´s approach  is a mix solution  from a transformer (primary part with AC current/changing current) and a dynamo ring as the secondary part of that transformer but without rotation.


back to the difference between a transformer and dynamo machine. INMHO, both are the same thing but with different construction principals, therefore a different defects and behaviors:
1-   Transformer and dynamos have both primary and secondary parts
2-   Trafos work with changing current in the primary parts in order to get something in the secondary part
3-   In a trafo both parts are steady, no moving parts (no need for that, the changing current do that job for us) but at some cost (looses, interaction between prim. & sec.).
4-   In the dynamos: we use DC current in the primaries (no changing current), therefore we MUST emulate the change “EFFECT” of faradays law in the secondary part (rotating it).
5-   The most effective construction of the transformer is by using 2 different coils (do not put opposite currents in the same coil,  a la UFO-Tech)
6-   The most effective dynamo construction in the secondary part, is the Gramme machine:
7-   The defects of the transformers are very well known and understood.
8-   The defects of Gramme machine are: winding the toroid (today isn’t anymore a problem, we don’t  want it to rotate), the precision of the winding in order to avoid contacts between wire and stator (the gape for rotation is needed for others benefits as SolarLab pointed, this fact is now become reality, see how much patent using this)
9-   Advantages of Ring construction based on Pacinotti (1860):

Very nice job done by Alessandro de Robeis:
http://www.percorsielettrici.it/modelli-3d
http://www.percorsielettrici.it/macchine-elettriche/generatori

and worked out by Gramme (1871) (wiki):
http://www.percorsielettrici.it/macchine-elettriche/generatori/32-gramme/25-macchina-dinamo-elettrica-di-gramme


“The Gramme machine used a ring armature, with a series of armature coils, wound around a revolving ring of soft iron. The coils are connected in series, and the junction between each pair is connected to a commutator on which two brushes run. Permanent magnets magnetize the soft iron ring, producing a magnetic field which rotates around through the coils in order as the armature turns. This induces a voltage in two of the coils on opposite sides of the armature, which is picked off by the brushes.
Earlier electromagnetic machines passed a magnet near the poles of one or two electromagnets, creating brief spikes or pulses of DC resulting in a transient output of low average power, rather than a constant output of high average power.
With enough coils, the resulting voltage waveform is practically constant, thus producing a near direct current supply. This type of machine needs only electromagnets producing the magnetic field to become a modern generator.”

“…While the hollow ring could now be replaced with a solid cylindrical core or drum, the ring still proves to be a more efficient design, because in a solid core the field lines concentrate in a thin surface region and minimally penetrate the center. For a very large power-generation armature several feet in diameter, using a hollow ring armature requires far less metal and is lighter than a solid core drum armature. The hollow center of the ring also provides a path for ventilation and cooling in high power applications.
In small armatures a solid drum is often used simply for ease of construction, since the core can be easily formed from a stack of stamped metal disks keyed to lock into a slot


Figuera mentioned Paxii, clark, Pacinotti.. why?

Hi Solarlab,
The theory of Dr. Andrey MELNICHENKO is confirming in some ways what we are after.
Thank you for the link to the website.

NMS

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1258 on: April 30, 2014, 06:04:20 AM »
Hello Hanon,  8)

 Great progress with researching with the Figuera's device.

1. The simple Induction we knows  still works fine in cutting the copper wires with the magnetic flux we could create on the Inducing Electromagnet.
I already told you before that the concept which Figuera have found are explained really well on the Tesla Patent which Tesla call the Electro Dynamic Induction Machine= Tesla Toroid Transformer.
The real working device which Figuera really had is the Toroidal shape Transformer.

Yes. Tesla showed it really simple how to Virtually rotate the Magnetic Field on a Toroid on his patent.
My first understanding of the Tesla Toroid that it is being powered with a 180deg phase/out of phase, But I was wrong about the 180deg. The 2 phase Generator Tesla used to excite the 4 wound Primary coils of the Tesla Toroid is actually like this, 1st phase starts at 0deg; the 2nd phase starts at 90deg.

2. We are talking here a Rotating Magnetic Field so the Tesla Toroid is actually a Dynamo/Generator with no moving parts only rotating the Magnetic Field around the Toroid.
About how did Tesla do it to laterally cut the copper wire with the flux= We all know that the Core materials are soft Iron which is  a good Magnetic Flux Shaper . If you could see on the simple experiment done by Faraday , the coreless solenoid copper wire and moving the permanent magnet inside the copper wire- that experiment is actually what Tesla did moving the magnets in a Continuous loop in toroid. The dont worry about the Magnetic Field if you are using a Core Material here.

3. Why it needs 2 Phase Alternating Current? The purpose of the 2 Phase is create a waveform with 90degs phase shift. I think most people really knows the fact that the Phase Shift Waveform of the Secondary is 90deg. Tesla showed many ways that output waveform of his Induced Secondary Coils is 90deg.

What will happen if the reflective/opposing magnetic field of the Induced Secondary Coils are always meet with the next Phase?

The TPU works on this Rotating Magnetic Field concept.The Tesla Wireless Transmission still works with this concept. The Tesla Generator also works with this concept, almost all of Tesla's  Magnetism device was to achieved the 90deg.

If Tesla dont used the Toroidal shape Transformer, He will used TWO Separate Cored Transformer still to achieved the 90deg, The Magnetic Shielding which also Tesla introduced was for this purpose to achieve the 90degs Phase Shift.


Just some useful opinion. ;D ;D ;D

Meow   8)


Thanks for your kind help. I have a couple of questions:

1- How can we get the wires cut by the magnetic flux? Dynamos are based on that principle but for that the wire must be moved laterally to the magnetic lines. We need to emulate some kind of relative movement to induce the wires!!

2- What the difference between building a transformer and a dynamo? I understand that in transformers the magnetic flux do not hit the wires, just pass across the coil (flux linking). In dynamos the flux must cut the wires (flux cutting), this take us to the first question again: how can we get the flux cutting laterally the wires?


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Hi all,

I have found a couple of patents where it is described how to achieve two 90º unphased signals:

http://www.google.com/patents/US4156222 (Transformer with divided primary) (see parapraph where Fig. 6 is described and next ones)

https://www.google.com/patents/US546756 (Production of displaced phases and rotary fields)

I hope someone may find them useful

Regards



 

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