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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1809585 times)

Offline marathonman

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GOOD GOD dude it was meant as a JOKE... "HELLO" !

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I think the first coil on the core is a split coil center tap making up the two opposing primaries and the outer one is the pick up or induced coil. Which would need a thicker wire to handle voltage and current.Not sure if all that activity could work well on a single core.The source would have to be kept very low. One could hope that what applies to dc resistance heating compared to ac would also apply in a core. Then having the fields push back and forth against each other would sort of be like a rotating or alternating field even though the electromagnets are facing same poles to each other. Power is transferred as a alternating event with very short distances of movement in ac ,the potential becomes a rigid connection between the source of movement and the end use in a mains line.Maybe the same thought can work with magnetic fields. I haven't read the pdf yet. I have some time now that the electric company drove a bush hog all over the exposed water line I was back filling.
 Gonna be one of those days.
Doug;
is this what you were talking about here.

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Hi Fellows,

This only takes a few minutes and you may find it instructional.

Go to this web page, start the application and perform the following.

http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/faradays-law

- select "Run Now!" [should open a new browser tab];

Try this: (use the pernament magnet to simulate electromagnet)
     {select: 1 Coil; Show field lines; Flip magnet to "N" faces left - consider this our Reference Point}
     {Note: if the Java Script stops responding - just reload the page}

   - move the magnet to a point where the magnet face touches the second Left most coil winding;
      (the vertical legs of the "N" are obstructed by the second right and final right coil windings)
   - use "Flip magnet" a few times and observe the meter (just to get feel for the orientation);
   - set to the Reference Point (N pole inside the coil);
   - move the magnet Right (about 1 coil winding distance) and observe the meter movement (should peg "-" negative)
      {amplitude depends on how rapid [dV/dt} the magnet was moved};
   - continue to move the magnet to the Left in 1 coil winding increments (simulating commutator steps), observe meter;
   - when the magnet is over the voltage meter "Flip magnet" This we will call the Terminal Point;
   - now step the magnet Left towards the coil in 1 coil winding increments (observe the meter);
   - when the magent reaches the Reference Point - "Flip magnet";
   - repeat this motion while flipping the magnet at the Reference and Terminal Points.

Interesting, at worst!    I may have screwed up in my sequencing but you'll get the idea.

Other demo's that may be useful:

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/index.html

 - review the "interactive java tutorials for:
    - magnetic field lines
    - Faraday's 2nd Experiment {note that E = -(DF/Dt)
    - Lenz's Law [this is a very good one]
    - Attraction and Repulsion By Magnetic Poles

Actually most of the interactive java applets are instructive (some are in development and don't work well yet).

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Oh man i can't thank you enough.  playing with that magnet allowed me to visualize what was going on in Figueras core. i took the magnet and put the Bloch wall in the middle of the core then hit the flip button reversing the polarity and the whole page lit up from the light bulb, pegging the meter to the max..... well actually slamming it from peak to peak every time,  so this is what the core is suppose to do.
so i then went back to the paint program and put what i think is happening in the core of Figueras. no wonder every one thought i was wacked in the head.......SORRY EVERY ONE!
This is why he used the split core.... to lower the amperage draw on the primaries as they do not have to reverse polarity only the secondary.  man o man this Figueras sure was an very impressive person.   
can someone please tell me if this is right, is this what is happening.

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Hi,

About the picture in the post #991 by Marathonman with the 2 induced coils I think it is wrong. Buforn just stated that a second induced coil can be installed in the same core in order to generate the electricity required to excite the device. The other induced coil coulb be then used entirely for any other electrical output

I just quote from the patent 57955 by Buforn:

"Another advantage is that inside the induced electromagnets we can put
another small size induced electromagnet with equal or greater length than the
large induced core. In these second group of induced coils an electric current will be
produced, as in the first group of induced coils, and this produced current will be sufficient
for the consumption in the continuous excitation of the machine, being completely free
all the other current produced by the first induced electromagnets in order to use it in all
purposes you want."


Please keep as close as possible to the patent description!!. The missing piece should be anything not described, but the described things should be taken as the patent says.

My only doubt is why did he state that "the small induced coil must have a length equal or greater than the large induced core"  ??  Any ideas ??

It seems an unnecessary explanation. I do not know why he explicity wrote that sentence...

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Marathon
 Split primary the core could go either way depending on the amount of field to be stored in the gap between the windings.
  Im partial to 1 mm wire on the primaries. The number of conductors making up the primaries compared to the turns ratio of the bundles and the total number of the turns counting each wire turn. For argument sake lets say im going to want to push or be able to push 3000 watts on the primary coils in dc to start them. By looking at a wire chart for welding cable the type made of lots of small diameter wire 3/00 will handle 300 amps dc easily. Taking the same number of conductors with magnet wire you get a bundle. Hard to work with so make the group of smaller bundles. Windiing is tricky and slow. Keep the length of wire short because the reisistance is controlled by the controller not the length of the wires. Even if you never crank the magnets up to full power with the starting source you have to be able to handle the intended loads plus start up surges for motor type loads.
   You have to determine your own requirements of output to figure out how many units to build and how big you need each set to be even if your making a useless table top toy. 44kw takes a few sets and a lot of spare time to put together.
  Kw converts to hp devided by frequency converted to ft lbs. Ft lbs to magnet lift foot pounds. The size you can work with and still be happy and sane can be added together to reach the final numbers. Cost is another problem. Its not much different from building a standard generator from scratch. I doubt very many people will want to do all this work. Except for a few who just like to tinker.
  Did I hear someone mention a decade box, do I know you from someplace? I would rather have a million turns of fine wire then a few of thicker for primaries. I can arrange the fine wire with more options in the sense of what makes a stronger magnet.

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Thank you Doug for your insites, very much appreciated but my question is still unanswered.  i need to know if the post above is the way Figueras device is operating before i proceed any farther. is the magnetic polls squeezed causing it to pouch out enveloping the secondary coil simulating magnetic rotation. YES/NO???????

I mentioned a decade counter like the one Patrick made but mine is 9 channels. what is your take on using the decade counter?????/
i am using it for its inherent channel overlap capabilities making it a prime candidate for Figueras device.
 here is a pic of my boards, the 9 channel is at 60 hz and the 2 channel is at 800 hz. the two channel one will be ran through a Bridge Diode for DC operation and will employ 4 mil laminate Iron as to handle the higher frequency and the 9 channel will use 11 to 12 mill laminate core, both boards are very low power at 5 volts milliamper range.
Board design was made with DipTrace free up to 300 pins two layer (64 Bit...the only way to fly)  in which i HIGHLY recommend. the view of the boards you see is the 3D feature the program has built in.  the price for a few boards are not that bad but if you were to order a lot of boards i then suggest Futurlec as they are way cheaper plus their parts prices cant be beat by ANYONE.

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Marathonman:

What are these electronic boards.. What are they going to do..Do we really need all this...Can you explain to me please....

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Not intending to be mean but the post was not intended for you but if you have to know they are TIMING BOARDS FOR FIGUERAS DEVICE . read previous post.

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A bit of scientific new info to help you guys.  We have discovered that a gap in the core DOUBLES the frequency. Also, varying  a gap in the core is a NEW way to tune a device. So we have added to Tesla's ways of tuning. Grumage has some scope shots on the Akula0083 thread. However this has only been tested on ferrite cores.
We also know that the gap produces electrostatic pulses. If that is the case here then we are looking at frequency mixing which was patented by Carlos Benitez a hundred years ago.

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You can think of the gap in the core as two plates of a capacitor.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1000 on: March 14, 2014, 08:13:08 PM »
Marathonman

Thank you Doug for your insites, very much appreciated but my question is still unanswered.  i need to know if the post above is the way Figueras device is operating before i proceed any farther. is the magnetic polls squeezed causing it to pouch out enveloping the secondary coil simulating magnetic rotation. YES/NO?(http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif)(http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif)

 Yes,two reasons. It's actually not a rotating field in the induced it's just reversing direction 50 times a second as the push alternates. It also will add to the force of the collapsing field in the magnet being powered down so the induction going on as back emf in it can go back around on the wire and suppress the incoming current from the source if it is slightly higher in voltage which back emf spikes usually are.Most of what goes in one way is returned hard and fast as a spike but it will have to pass though the controller so it can be used. With enough fine tuning to stretch the spike out over a longer period of time it should be obvious what to do with that.
  I dont know what to tell you about the output of your controller.I like the one in the patent with the resister elements cause you can watch it and put insane currents through it.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1000 on: March 14, 2014, 08:13:08 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1001 on: March 14, 2014, 09:56:20 PM »
THANK YOU ! ;D ;D ;D
Yes i know i am limited on Amperage with solid state but the MJ11032 hits 50a or the ESM3030DV hits 100a both will take a good punch but i am trying for the lowest power possible. bifiler can be beneficial ...only time will tell.
Again, thanks a million.

a.king21; thanks for the info....might come in handy.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1002 on: March 15, 2014, 05:51:02 PM »
Here is some FANTASTIC reading from Nikola Tesla. could help with Figueras device.
Nikola Tesla’s most suppressed work was his theory of gravity.  also explaining workings of Electricity. here is the link.copy n paste.

http://aetherforce.com/teslas-dynamic-theory-of-gravity/

In 1929, Tesla ridiculed Heinrich Hertz’s 1887-89 experiments purportedly proving the Maxwellian “structureless” ether filling all space, “of inconceivable tenuity yet solid and possessed of rigidity incomparably greater than the hardest steel”. Tesla’s arguments were to the contrary, saying he had always believed in a “gaseous” ether in which he had observed waves more akin to sound waves. He recounted how he had developed a “new form of vacuum tube” in 1896 (which I call the “Tesla bulb”), “…capable of being charged to any desired potential, and operated it with effective pressures of about 4,000,000 volts.” He described how purplish coronal discharges about the bulb when in use, verified the existence of “particles smaller than air”, and a gas so light that an earth-sized volume would weigh only 1/20 pound. He further said sound waves moved at the velocity of light through this medium.
it looks like Tesla beat Thomas Henry Moray to the punch, both amazing people .

Tesla also talked about Rarefaction and compression (expansion-compression) just what Don Smith was trying to convey.

Also some very interesting info. please watch the compression -expansion wave.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rarefaction

Enjoy ...i sure did.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1003 on: March 16, 2014, 12:54:40 AM »
Thanks, just saved, will enjoy it later.


BTW. i "revisited" Figueras design and I think I finally understood it. The keely drawings are partially wrong.


The point is, both primaries never ever alter their polarity,  they are practicly free running, only their amplitude varies (but should never be zero!). By doing that, they have no back emp to deal with. Nonetheless the polarity of Y is alternating.


The back electromotive force of Y on the other hand is not forced to go back to the originating primary, but two paths are offered to it, so it may choose the easier one, thus making the originating inductor (the hard path) "lenz-less". I've seen similar patents and it was said that the COP can be very high, like 1400%.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1004 on: March 16, 2014, 06:11:36 AM »
Thanks, just saved, will enjoy it later.


BTW. i "revisited" Figueras design and I think I finally understood it. The keely drawings are partially wrong.


The point is, both primaries never ever alter their polarity,  they are practicly free running, only their amplitude varies (but should never be zero!). By doing that, they have no back emp to deal with. Nonetheless the polarity of Y is alternating.


The back electromotive force of Y on the other hand is not forced to go back to the originating primary, but two paths are offered to it, so it may choose the easier one, thus making the originating inductor (the hard path) "lenz-less". I've seen similar patents and it was said that the COP can be very high, like 1400%.

Exactly, also by the primaries not switching polarities no pole reversal ( Hysteresis i think) struggle is taking place requiring "LESS AMP DRAW"

electricity is lazy always wanting to return to equilibrium (Compression and Rarefaction) as soon as possible so the less reluctant path is always taken.

plus i wander if the secondaries can be bifiler wound????? i will soon find out wire is on its way 10lbs of luscious 18 awg goodness....WHO-HOO!

it's to bad square magnet wire is so expensive.  one would have to buy whole real at almost 2 thousand bucks, i know i checked Essex wire. but man what a electro- magnet you could get.

ps. i think you will like the Tesla link. i think he was touched by God him self. Figueras was just really, really smart. ha ha ha!      GOOD LUCK ALL!

 

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