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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1647431 times)

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Very interesting reading. could be of great importance to this project plus good reading.

Core Coil and capacitance are critical variables in the OU transform. In order to obtain an EMA class C
amplifier, the magnetic component must correct the PF of the inductive and capacitive ones, at a given CORE
impedance where the ENERGY transform occurs. In AC is FULL resonance, in DC is half resonance states
where pulse becomes a logarithmic voltage gain from a discharging coil & or core into a capacitor where it
becomes a POWER vector (potential) extracted from the 0 point of resonant opposed curvature.
If voltage is maximal current is 0; if voltage is 0 current is maximal. These states create SPACE vacuum and
space tensor where energy compresses and relaxes. In theory 2 off phase identical LCs in common grounded
circuit must create potential differential relative to their space-vacuum states, being those captured such devices
extract energy from thermal and electron spin ones (transformation with possibility of self sustaining and
extraction of energy).
Of 9 types of electricity humanity knows only 2 and has only learned to use one in its more primitive forms.
here is the PDF "Radiant Energy and Over-Unity" Dan Combine.


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I might have come up with a solution to everyone's delemma.  attached is my idea of the figueras core set up and the PDF where i got the idea. it fits with Figueras design parameters and is Lenz less.  i have a hard time writing what i'm thinking, this is why i have to visualize.  dissect and inform please.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2014, 10:30:20 PM by marathonman »

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Marathonman, I was reading this patent, 27D. I am not sure if I understand this "Lenz-less" thing right. The counterforce to induction is the Lorentz force, is this what the patent is about? If so, why is there no Lorentz force?

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Hi NRamaswami,

You wrote:

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What is magnetic flux cancellation.. I'm not able to understand it.. Please clarifiy..And what is addition of magnetic fluxes and how do these both are done and please give  me examples.


On flux cancellation: I do not think flux simply disappears (or whatever similar word is used) when the term flux cancellation is used by many people, rather I believe the resulting strength and the effect of two (or more) fluxes reduces to a minimum. It is important to notice that no matter what,  the flux from a given current in a given coil is always created and of course you can create a 'counter' flux which either substracts or adds to the effect what the first flux would manifest alone and this interaction can take place very close to the first coil windings if you create the 'counter' flux very close to the first coil.
For example there is the bifilar winding style for 'inductionless' wire resistors to minimize the self inductance of wirewound resistors. You first fold a given wire length into half and start winding a coil with the dual wire close to each other, see illustration attached. The ends of both wires will be the coil connections, and you could measure a very little inductance (say under a microHenry with precise windings) between such coil connections with an L meter, considering the total wire length used.
A compass or a Gauss meter would show a much much less flux intensity at the ends or at the sides of such coils, versus the case when you would use only the one half winding of such coil by making the connections to it between the folded back start and any one other end, using the half wire length only. (OF course you have to use insulated wires so that the adjacent turns should not have electrical contact with each other, and also half input voltage when you test the flux created by the half wire length versus the input voltage used for the full wire to insure comparable situations.)

I also uploaded a measurement on the poles of two magnets when they are 1) separated, 2) attracted to each other and 3) positioned close to each other in repel mode. A Gauss meter was used and you can see from the Gauss numbers what member Bajac nicely described to you. The Gauss measurements in the drawing I uploaded was not done by me.

On flux addition: if you can direct flux coming from two (or more) independent sources into a common permeable, low reluctance material, then you can add (or even substract) those flux sources, a Gauss meter would show the increase or decrease with respect to the original strengths. See for instance the parallel path technology, read Josh's research paper with the measurements: http://www.flynnresearch.net/young%20scientist/Josh%20Jones/josh.htm 

Years ago I tested a small electromagnet and increased its strength by attaching a permanent magnet to the core, see this link how it was done in an old patent: http://www.overunity.com/1621/magnet-motor-idea-need-feedback/msg16347/#msg16347  and here my additional notices: http://www.overunity.com/1621/magnet-motor-idea-need-feedback/msg16889/#msg16889

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NRamaswami

I completely agree with you on that topic. Someone need a fresh look of what is happening to realize that rotation of Earth cannot be a passive action due to some starting point in very ancient times. Energy must be supplied continously to rotate such a mass and there is a big chance it is not gravity source. Interactions between planets should very fast stop or disturb that constant rotation if it is passive. Somebody should compute the total energy required for Earth to rotate as today, but that require detailed knowledge of internal structure of Earrth. Very rough computation shows incredible billions of joules per single man on Earth. Drop it to like 1MW per man and I think we could be in safe margin. Except who need 1MW ?  :o
To summarise : constant rotation prove active character of force, small disturbances may indicate reaction to other planets disturbances; also if somebody could find an space object (planet, start etc) which do not rotate and yet has strong gravitation that would be another proof.

But everything in the Universe is in motion, nothing is motionless in the Universe, the sun moves the planets move everything moves nothing stays in one place, even if we put a coffee mug on the table it is travelling at tremendous speed right along side us. In the entire Universe there are no losses, everything is contained in the Universe of all that is.

All energy in the Universe is being transformed and transferred/transmitted constantly.

Can anyone name one thing or body or mass that is completely motionless ? Everything moves continuously. The brain of a human trying to understand the vastness of the cosmos and its entire working mechanisms over eternity is a futile effort.

Yes electrons orbit in atoms seemingly forever so do planets and galaxies also move seemingly forever, but our concept of passing events is minute compared to the eternity of the universe.

The energy dissipated by the Earths rotation may well simply be transferred to another space body and the energy some other space body dissipates is probably transferred to Earth, these interactions would be so complex and dynamic that they defy study.

How do we study a constantly changing scenario.

Is the Earth and other planets in our solar system slowing in axial rotation but the entire solar system increasing in speed through the galaxy ?

Who knows.

Bottom line is nothing in the Universe is standing still in space.

If we could theoretically create a Universe in a box (a closed system) theoretically no energy could escape or enter the box but the box is already teeming with moving bodies in an orderly fashion how would movement ever stop, no heat can escape no energy of any kind can escape, how could the energy of the interior of the box decrease or increase ?
It might turn chaotic then return to some different type of order, but everything is still in the box and nothing is added energy included.

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Humankind will be extinct for billions of years and everything in the universe will still be moving around as it pleases.

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Marathonman, I was reading this patent, 27D. I am not sure if I understand this "Lenz-less" thing right. The counterforce to induction is the Lorentz force, is this what the patent is about? If so, why is there no Lorentz force?
Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux or to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.
 If you look at the picture the three magnetic lines of force cancell each other out and will not act in a negative way and these forces will not effect the primary due to gap between primary core and secondary core.  if i am not mistaken one can wire secondary so that induction is cancelled or very much minimized. Bifiler if i am not mistaken.

the Lorentz force is the combination of electric and magnetic force on a point charge due to electromagnetic fields. If a particle of charge q moves with velocity v in the presence of an electric field E and a magnetic field B, then it will experience a force. 
we are not to concern our selves with this law is far as i am aware.

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Gyula:

Thank you so much for your very detailed post. I'm grateful and obliged. Should have taken a lot of time for you to compose the answer that is very informative and very accurate. I do not have a guass meter but in my experiments I find that the strength of the electromagnet keeps increasing.

I'm not able to understand what is  "common permeable, low reluctance material"

I can understand common as common core. Permeable is magnetisable material. What is low reluctance material. Can you please give me an example. Is soft iron a low reluctance material? Is steel a low reluctance material? Is zinc coated iron a low reluctance material. Will Zinc coated iron reduce magnetism and inductance because it reduces eddy currents.

I have studied Charles Flynns patent last year and that Tom Bearden's MEG would infringe this patent and this is why Tom Bearden is not coming up with MEG is some thing that I thought.

Am I right in this statement theoretically..Is the frequency of the secondary of a transformer is increased than the primary, the transformer should then act as a generator? Please advise. Let us ignore whether it is possible or otherwise.   

Freehand:

You simply answered a most controversial question without realizing it.

Nothing in the earth is an isolated system. You need to consider the entire universe to take it as an isolated system. Therefore applying law of conservation of energy which is a theory formulated when the present levels of scientific knowledge were not there and refusing patents on that basis is not correct.

The systems that require higher input than output are based on their particular design. It is therefore entirely possible to design a system that avoids this problem. Since every man made object is subject to wear and tear such a system will not be a perpetual motion machine but can be more than 100% efficient. The systems that we currently use are less than 100% efficient because of their design characterestics.

Also the Van Allen Radiation belts, outer and inner belts act to reduce the cosmic radition that comes to the earth and then it is further filtered away by nature through the atmosphere. I have read Don Smiths statements that by tapping the energy of these belts an inexhustible supply can be made. I do not think it is necessary. If we just make a secondary of a transformer to have a higher frequency than the primary, then all the transformers in the world would become generators on their own and would become super efficient. I think it is doable easily..This is just my opinion and I may or may not be correct given my lack of knowledge in this domain.

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NRamaswami
"Also the Van Allen Radiation belts, outer and inner belts act to reduce the cosmic radiation that comes to the earth and then it is further filtered away by nature through the atmosphere" 
 I mean no Disrespect but this is a false statement as the radiation you are referring to is at a certain frequency. when it collides with Van Allen Radiation belts it is reduced and particles and such in our atmosphere lower the frequency even further and by the time it hits our planet it has been lowered to the point that it is not harmful. this is what react in our earth core to keep it hot and what is fueling our sun....not nuclear fusion.
the earth is continually rotating because a rotating object will continue to rotate unless some external forces act upon it to oppose it.plus it might be possible that the Lorentz force is at play causing the rotation.

Gravity has been proven to be a push not a pull. when you are in space, gravity  "from radiation" acts upon you from all angles that is why you are stationary. when you get close to a large body ie...." Earth" the radiation is slowed down slightly "lower frequency" from our atmosphere and the Earth itself so that the force applied upon you is less then coming from the outer space side so you are PUSHED into the earth giving the appearance of Earth having Gravity. this has been proven many many times.

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Hi Marathonman:

Let us accept it. I'm a Lawyer and am not an Engineer nor a scientist. But after reading your statement and my statement I'm not able to understand what is the difference. Your statement indicates that these belts absord high frequency material, convert them to low frequency and their frequency is continuously brought down so that when the reach the earth they are harmless. My statement was that they protect the earth ( from a layman's point of view). But it appears that our knowledge on all these subjects is very low and we have a lot to learn. Regarding what fuels the Sun I have no knowledge on this and really cannot comment. Whether the earth pulls or space pushes us towards the earth the effect is one and the same. A rotating body will continue to rotate unless it has some force acting upon it to block it is against what I can understand. Just as you say the Earth is continuously bombarded by particles from space all the time. Then they must cause friction and some must support and some must oppose. So it is not as if there is no force is needed to keep the Earth rotating. It rotates not only around itself but also rotates around the Sun promptly every year.. There are other planets that do the same so there are bound to be forces acting supporting or against such rotation.

Let me know your insight that a secondary of a transformer having a higher frequency than primary is bound to act like a generator..You have not commented on it..

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to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.

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I thought this descibes exactly the lorentz force.


But I want to present to all of you an alternative explanation of the Figuera Generator. What  if... Y was not a secondary, but a PM? And what if the pretended primaries are switching primaries/secondaries? Confused? Watch this:  (Assuming ideal permeabillity and induction conditions)

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Hi Dieter:

Secondary electromagnets are having coils and it is in the description. It is certainly possible that permanent magnets were placed in the spaces between the cores shown which is readily discernible in Buforn last image but not in figueras image. The gaps are probably permanent magnets in which case the primary is half permanent magnet and half electromagnet. Please see the Figuera diagram that shows that the secondary has a full core described as soft iron rods. Primary half is empty. It is quite possible that the P1 and P2 had their own permanent magnets there rather than the single magnet you are showing. Please see the drawing of Figuera. In order to cool the soft iron core there is space also between the primary and secondary. It could be for another reason as one of our friends indicated.

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 "It could be for another reason as one of our friends indicated." Yes !  and or it could also be used for Regauging the cores. this is used to return the cores to the original state faster and or adding to original flux.

"NRamaswami"  Let me know your insight that a secondary of a transformer having a higher frequency than primary is bound to act like a generator..You have not commented on it..
 i am not inclined enough in the art of transformer theory to engage in this subject but if i was to take a stab at it think i might place a third coil pulsed at a higher frequency to raise the frequency of secondary....The Michel Meyer and Yves Mace Isotopic Generator  otherwise  i am most ignorant in this case.

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NRamaswami, I know Figueras Drawing. But it seems to me you didn't understand my drawing. Maybe you didn't watch it really? Using Magnets as the cores of the "primaries" makes no sense IMHO.


As we agreed, Figuera must have disguised something. What if the coil on Y is fake? However, my drawing shows an efficiency of 400% and is easy to understand. I posted it in the hope somebody would study it and tell me where my mistake lies. It is also the reason why I asked about permeability and load earlier.

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Hi Dieter:

I have watched your drawing. The idea of using a permanent magnet  between the primary and secondary of a transformer to increase magnetic flux is in several patents. Old and new. This is not possible to be implemented unless you use steel as permanent magnet. Otherwise all permanent magnets which are subjected to high voltage AC get demagnetised. I do not wish to comment on assumptions as the office inspection report clearly shows that the patent description of Figuera is correct to a substantial degree. So we cannot assume that he faked the Y coils.  Clearly that would have been a gross misrepresentation and the office examination report would have disallowed the patent. So I'm sorry I'm not inclined to accept the idea of the Y coils being fake. some minor thing might be hidden but the patent must be as described and substantially as set forth was the standard used in those days.  So while some thing could be hidden the entire patent could not be a fake. Remember we got to know about this one through the efforts of BajaC and Hanon but for whom Figuera would not have been present in history at all. I'm sorry I'm not able to accept your theory of fake secondary coils. Permanent magnets in the spaces indicated possible. Drawing deceptive possible. But the secondary itself is fake. Not possible.

 

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