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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1470744 times)

Offline seaad

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Sead; Actually that which is in the orange ring is actually sliding adjustments as to balance the primaries from peak to peak. minor oversite that is it nothing more nothing less.
Marathonman

Why a double twisted? wire to each side of the G-part? How are these connected to the  G and S, N components? And you have both + and - brushes now rotating on the G-part. Not the figuera style, OR?

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Seaad;

  I actually do apologize for the blunder as i was getting the point across of the brushes and the magnetic fields associated with them and only added more confusion in my attempt to convey my point and for that i am sorry. those twisted wires are actually not there as that is the continuous wind on part G. those connection shown are actually in the middle of part G as you are winding it and will not be seen.
the adjustable connectors below are advisable to allow the adjustment of the balancing of the primaries. keeping things adjustable will help in the final tweeking process.
flipping the tab allows the connector to be used in a much better way allowing it to be slid on the wire for adjustments. the first pic is the connector stock while the second pic has the tab flipped allowing it to be slid on the wire for adjustment of the primaries balance.

the second brush is the secondary output looped back to part G through a commutator allowing the negative and positive sides to remain their sign. this allows part G to be the power supply once the starting power is removed. in essence part G becomes the amplifier of the signal as all released potential of the reducing side is combined in part G giving an amplification to the rising primary.
all magnetic fields when reduced releases that reduced potential into the system and this is a Physical fact not fiction and can not be disputed by no one.

Marathonman

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Quote;
"marathonman

"Thank you" seems inadequate. What is missing from most forums is someone who is unselfish enough to share ALL their research and discoveries for the betterment of mankind. On this site there is none of that, only like minded people who want to see man progress.  I have had this patent saved for a lot of years and understood the basics of how it works, but thanks to your work i may someday be able to make it work. Thank you again.

Tony" end quote.

I get messages like this all the time from people that are not only interested in this device but want to learn how to build it. i share all my work freely and hide nothing.
but on this site all there seems to be is people who want to argue and belittle people i guess to make them selves feel better from something that is lacking in their life, i don't know.

all you have to do is read and understand what has been posted then verify that by yourself.

This is a quote from Aubrey Scoons that replicated Royal Rife's work;

"DON’T BE FOOLED!
Complexity does not equal credibility. Just the opposite in fact. Anyone who has genuine insight will be able to explain to you in simple language exactly what they mean and you will then be able to verify it with known scientific fact. If they can’t.....well, what do you think?"

This is why i choose to explain things in detail but at a level everyone can understand. read what that said again  "and you will then be able to verify it with known scientific fact."

THAT MEANS YOU PEOPLE. if you don't take the time to research and conduct test to verify what is been said then what are you doing here in the first place other than causing havoc and disrupting threads.

this as far as i can tell is suppose to be a place to learn not sharpen your battle skills.
we live in a perpetual motion machine but since we are on the inside looking out we can not see this just like the fish in the water inside looking out.

if perpetual motion is not possible then wouldn't it be awkward if the world stop spinning tomorrow. not likely as it will continue billions of years after we are gone.


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Offline marathonman

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Studying inductors , Self-Inductance, Inductive Reactance,  how, why they work and the actual reasons for the currant reduction will help in understanding part G. also understanding how boost converters work will also help in your journey. once you learn the currant travels in the same direction it was traveling in the first place you will them be open to the possibilities of an static inductor being used in an active state kept in an active state from the constant brush rotation. all reduced magnetic potentials are combined in part G giving rise to amplification to the rising primary electromagnet and rising side of part G.
these are just the consequences of induction from the laws of induction laid down by Michael Faraday and the rules from Heinrich Lenz.

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History two years back:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/12439-re-inventing-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-37.html#post292732

Which one is valid today? 
 1:st pic. CW and CCW , 2:nd pic  All windings CW - OR !- CCW , 3:rd pic (MM:s today)  All windings CW -OR- CCW

Regards  Arne
« Last Edit: May 06, 2018, 10:46:14 PM by seaad »

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Offline marathonman

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Seaad;
  It's really time to grow up fella and smell the roses right in front of your face. i mean really,  your total attack to discredit not only looks so bad on your part but also defines you as what kind of a person you really are. your pathetic attempts be shame and belittle me only digs the hole for your coffin even further. as the obvious conclusion to the lack of your intellect is being the graphs were used just in the attempt to get the point across as to the reference i was conveying and even that the first pic was Never used by me ever nor was the winding direction of each thus your sad attempt was a complete failure. you being you,  attempt to belittle in which the lack of intelligence and proper reasoning prevents you from doing so thus drops you beneath me and most other people.

what i would suggest is trying to learn something in an attempt to raise that pea brain you call intelligence to something other than a size of pea and the third grade level of manhood which is lacking profusely there of.

so on that note i would suggest you take your unintelligent self back to school and actually learn something that is actually useful like that of science and Physics other than a professional idiot and pot smoker attempting to belittle or shame a person that is at a level not attainable from the likes of your kind.
you are a disgrace to manhood but you already know this and a total fraud of Science and Physics from the total lack of.
but the most funny part of your total lack of manhood is knowing the real direction of the winding i know as per my research but because  your total lack of understanding of self induction , real Science and Physics you have not a clue just resort to pathetic ramblings like a child in a mans body.
i almost feel sorry for you ......NOT ! you are like water on a ducks back, it always flows to his back side and off it's body. so what does this tell the readers of this thread..... hummm let see...... your a total fraud and a waste of a human being that is trying to prevent a free energy device from being sent to the world for replication. who do YOU work for.

Matathonman

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Seaad;
 your a total fraud and a waste of a human being that is trying to prevent a free energy device from being sent to the world for replication. who do YOU work for.
Matathonman

First; I'm not working at all. I'm just retired. Free as a bird.
Second; My inductance meter don't lye. Others,  members have presented math/ formula proof here also.

And I should be very happy if  I ,  We,  could come up with a free energy unit here to liberate the world from 'big oil' among others.

Just answer my question. Which pic is valid above. So we know how to wind the part G  toroid.

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Quote;
"Second; My inductance meter don't lye. Others,  members have presented math/ formula proof here also."

also complete lie, no person on this or any website has proven me wrong in any way shape or form other than failed attempts at replication in which you were not a part of so there for that is here say.

not one single person took the time to listen to the one person that knew about this device years ago and that is your fault not mine because i did and very well i might add. imagine that !

Seaad please drop the BS as i know you are not a good person and have a track record there of. you are not to be trusted at all by anyone, especially the readers of this thread.

I tell you what, wind a core clock wise and put the positive on the left and negative on the right then record your findings of which pole is on the left then wind it counter clock wise with the same, then record your your findings.
congratulations you just figured out which way to wind part G which will give you NN at the positive brush. if you can't i have a new pretty coloring set i can draw some really nice pictures for you with pop ups for your enjoyment. you remember the ones in kindergarten don't you.

if you truly want to learn drop your bs, read and listen. i have not changed my tune in five years so what does that say about my character and what does that say about yours.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 01:47:55 PM by marathonman »

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Why people are over complicating things is beyond me.
it's rather simple since we are using DC we have to have something changing like AC does to get a currant reduction in the system. since self induction is the ratio of magnetic flux to currant how are we to get the rise and fall of magnetic field. we change the circuit on a continuous basis with a constant moving brush.
as the brush circles around the circuit what it is doing is changing the length of the circuit on either side of the brush. one side is decreasing while the other side is increasing in length so as it rotates it is constantly changing the ratio of magnetic flux to the amount of currant flowing in the system.
the side that is increasing in length obviously is adding winding's that are magnetically linking to the system changing the ratio of magnetic flux to currant so as the magnetic flux to currant increases the amount of currant flow is decreased and thus releases that reduction of currant into the system. since any reduction in currant in an inductor will cause that reduction to be released into the system counteraction the potential drop of the rising side.
since we have multiple potential sources releasing potential into the system at the same time the combine to amplify the potential to the rising side.

thus the opposite is happening in the rising side which is storing into the magnetic field only to release that potential when reduced to feed the rising side again in an never ending cycle every half cycle.

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I'm not an expert but consider this:- once the current is flowing the self-inductance is not working on it so we have to stop current and restart ?
- the change in inductance required to get low frequency change like 50Hz for DC current is tremendous ?
- resistance of current paths should be in every case similar in each sweep action on G part or we would have simply wasting heat and limiting current by resistance
- why not just use square wave pulses instead ?

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My previous post stated in the most descriptive manor i can conceive yet you still can't understand it.... WOW!

Finally something we can agree on your not an expert or even close.

Totally wrong answer. the self inductance does not stop because of the constant rotation of the brush.  I REPEAT,  the self inductance does not stop because of the constant rotation of the brush.   this changes the ratio of flux to the currant on a continuous basis.
 man do you people know anything about inductance. if the contact was stationary then your assessment would be correct but it isn't. it is dynamically changing as the brush rotates.

Quote from Wikipedia;
"Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current."

what part of this statement do you people not understand?????? the brush rotating changing the length of the inductor on both sides of the brush will change the ratio of flux to the amount of currant. this is the alteration to the circuit as the brush rotates changing the ratio of flux to the amount of currant which is the reverse EMF to the original currant flow.

Plain English all day long but if i need to translate to another language for you people to understand i will. good god i have been harping this very thing for five years and still no one gets it. it's like talking to the wall on this web site. and you wonder why Doug quit posting to you people, i was the only one that listened to the wisdom or has sense enough to listen.

Marathonman

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The entire inception of the Figuera device was a journey of at least 10 plusyears. Figuera being unhappy with the present day !900) Generators that were called dynamos in those days that had massive cogging effects which were the result of the Lenz Law of attraction between the stator and the rotor attractive force when leaving register (alignment).

his 1902 patent was a rotating version  that was sold to the bankers then later he revised his patent to be non moving (1908). in the process of realizing that two opposing electromagnets compresses the magnetic field to that of a standard high intensity field generator. he then devised a way to vary them in an orderly fashion to induce motion into the secondary all while reducing the currant draw on them and using that reduction of magnetic field in a positive way to make the device self sustaining. with the use of a dynamic inductor he was able to use that magnetic fields in the core to reduce the currant in an orderly linear fashion and reuse that reduced magnetic field in the core of part G combined with the other reduced fields to give rise of amplification to the rising primaries.

in this process the currant was able to be split to two feeds allowing both sets of primary array's to be controlled independently but in absolute unison. each side of the brush's inductor either adding or subtracting winding's that magnetically link or unlink to the system which will cause the magnetic field collision point to be swept back and forth over the space occupied by the secondary.

once the secondaries are polarized and currant begins to flow in the secondaries and the load a second field forms in the secondaries that opposes the original currant flow (Lenz Law)  and it is this field that the opposing primary fields push or rather sweep back and forth over the space occupied by the secondary giving the appearance or allusion of motion to the electric field causing currant to flow in the secondary and the load.

if there is more currant draw on the secondary from a larger load the resistance in that part of the external system will drop and more currant will flow thus returning more currant to the beginning where the secondaries are connected to part G which will give rise to more potential to the electromagnets thus boosting the output to the secondaries and the load.
just like a standard generator does only stationary.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 07, 2018, 11:48:44 PM by marathonman »

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This is a challenge to get people that are not use to a technology up to par and understand it's implications.
Taking a defensive position as always ? It is how you people cope with unknown and unresolved issues in new technology that just happens to be 110 years old.
Just because You don't understand it doesn't mean that it is NOT CORRECT...it just means you lack the brain power, intellect and power of reasoning to think outside the box understanding it's operating conditions. this device operates in accordance with all known applicable laws set forth by the founding fathers of Physics and Science and violates not one.

so my suggestion to all that don't understand it's working conditions and parameters should either learn how this device operates or quit posting on this thread entirely as you are nothing but a waste of this threads time, the readers time and my time.

post somewhere else if you can't understand it or don't take the time to learn. remaining completely ignorant is of course your prerogative just not my cup of tea.

Marathonman

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This is a challenge to get people that are not use to a technology up to par and understand it's implications.
Taking a defensive position as always ? It is how you people cope with unknown and unresolved issues in new technology that just happens to be 110 years old.
Just because You don't understand it doesn't mean that it is NOT CORRECT...it just means you lack the brain power, intellect and power of reasoning to think outside the box understanding it's operating conditions. this device operates in accordance with all known applicable laws set forth by the founding fathers of Physics and Science and violates not one.

so my suggestion to all that don't understand it's working conditions and parameters should either learn how this device operates or quit posting on this thread entirely as you are nothing but a waste of this threads time, the readers time and my time.

post somewhere else if you can't understand it or don't take the time to learn. remaining completely ignorant is of course your prerogative just not my cup of tea.

Marathonman
I hesitate to mention this guy; he certainly doesn't need your attitude...




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 i have a home base that is quiet and i really don't need this BS if this is all it is about.


I AM MARATHONMAN
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You're the only one perceiving and being triggered by 'BS'; and although you are trying to trigger everyone else,  that's not a very good excuse to be defamatory and derogatory to everyone else.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zebMvmVZyIA&t=0s
He's even got a span of resistor wire :)


I know; everything I post anywhere is off-topic so nyah.

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Just like i have been saying some just don't have what it takes to do research and conduct test thus have to rely on OTHER people doing the work for you.
I love the heater coil, it would be great in the winter time for heating the whole household up.
noting ones lack of intelligence is not defamatory is is the truth and on this site it seems to be the par for the course. why am i the way i am because most of the people that run their mouths have been the same one's from the start so after so many years it get really old.

so tell me brainiac how is the resistor array going to recycle the reduction of magnetic fields and use them in a positive way to off set the potential drop of the rising side.
Sorry charlie it is NOT and is Physically impossible. try proving it yourself instead of relying on other peoples work which seems to be the norm on this web side.

you people are unbelievable and totally lack what it takes to do research i guess that will prove everything i has stated. of course the easier road is denying it and running of the mouth.
I feel sorry for all of you.... NOT !

Marathonman

 

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