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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1648517 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4245 on: April 30, 2018, 12:19:11 PM »
https://vimeo.com/178144785


it's not really a variable resistor; it's a variable inductor


It must be intermitantly making/breaking contact as it changes from one coil position to another....


when the change stops the same current through both sides (mostly, there is a tiny different in resistance), and after a time of the magnetic field buildup...


Although I'm not entirely clear why turning one way lights one and turning the other lights the other... maybe because of the changing indductance, as it reduces, the current is increased while the other is decreased because of increased induction?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4246 on: April 30, 2018, 03:46:15 PM »
D3X0R;
Seaad is about the last person in the world you really want lo listen to as he doesn't know his back side to a hole in the ground and is nothing but a running shill and a troll and is part of a group of sad individual that has nothing better that to run their mouth needlessly toward other people. he and that group have no desire to find the truth just disrupt every thread they get on. where do you think the shill got the idea of the inductor in the first place. it certainly wasn't from his own thinking, trust me on that.

I have laid out the information describing what Part G is and it's actions and decsriptions is quite an informative way with no doubt proving everything on the bench so if you decide to listen to this shill of a person it is a complete loss on your part.
if you people would actually read what has been posted you just might understand this device instead of blindly posting assumptions or questions that have already been addressed in previous posts.

Read my posts for the last few weeks and it will be quite obvious as to what part G is and it's action and what causes those action. seaad is relying on wrong data from a so called person that wound part G but did not have near enough winds on part G as so i found out. the original part G replication was wound on an alternator core had around 100 winds and the so called person used only 20 to 40 which was NOT NEAR ENOUGH WINDS to do squat.

D3X0R please read my posts and it will become clear instead of relying on misinformed people. my research has many years of bench work backed by Physics and real science not trickery, snow jobs or riding off the backs of the people that actually did the real research into this device.

if you think my information about the group of people is incorrect just look at the destruction of both of the Figuers threads on Entergetic forum and you will see the truth. trolls and shill begat trolls and shills.

with 1320 posts i know you know what time it is but then again i could be wrong.

Good luck in the Figuera device.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 07:41:38 PM by marathonman »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4247 on: April 30, 2018, 04:38:36 PM »


Good luck in the Figuera device.

Marathonman


Something like that; I first saw their posts over on Pierre's thread....
This has a lot of similarity with that device actually.    I did read your theories, but respectfully disagree, so I didn't say anything...


Wasn't trying to be encouraging, or feeding the troll, but rather, try to express that's not what this thing is... although almost right; it's really not at all right.


The old timey notations on the patent of a looped wire is a heater wire/resistance.  it's not a telephone cord :) or even a coil that is itself made of a coil... but is meant instead to indicate a high resistance heater core type component.








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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4247 on: April 30, 2018, 04:38:36 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4248 on: April 30, 2018, 04:57:18 PM »
Telephone cord, who in the heck stated it was telephone core. OMG i can't stop laughing. that is the funniest thing i have heard in months. and even the heater core thing is totally hilarious beyond belief and again i can't stop laughing. stop and listen to the absurdities as the use of a ridiculous heater core would heat his house to 100 degrees plus and waste power like no tomorrow.
if you actually do research into part G you will find that Zeiss is the most logical builder of part G in Germany and it sure in heck wasn't a resistor. Zeiss does not build resistors and you would of known this if the proper research was conducted.

IF this is the reality of your research then you would be quite wrong but it is what it is and your device build.
Like i have stated the bench does not lie thus a resistor is the wrong approach as you will plainly see if you actually pursue this device.

again good luck as you will need all you can get.

PS i would love to see your test on that heater coil and please let me know as i will supply the sticks and hot dogs for the weenie roast and possible S'mores if you like them.


regards,

Marathonman
« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 08:50:59 PM by marathonman »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4249 on: April 30, 2018, 04:57:45 PM »
 It is quite possibly the entire reason trolls and shill disrupt threads is because of the lack of or misunderstanding that our ENTIRE UNIVERSE is a perpetual motion machine and thus living in the wheel work of said machine our perception of it's existence is quite distorted looking from inside out. it is the same as fish, they do not see water as water because they live in it. it is their normal life and breath.

Since the first day i was introduced to the Figuera device or plainly a set of bucking coils i knew i was on to something. using two bucking primers to increase the kinetic energies available to the secondaries with out loading the primers in the first place thus reducing the primers to just that of the IR2 losses.  there is no destruction of energies, just the movement from one form to another thus the universe recycles it's energies from one form to another in an never ending cycle, a constant cyclic motion from one dimension to another with the introduction of currant flow in the cyclic process.

we are literally living in the sea of energies just like the fish that do nothing but eat and breath not knowing the reality of things. those people that know not of it's existence will remain just that,  a fish, unlike like myself and others will continue to evolve and grow and become the pioneers to construct the vessel to explore the vast Universe of energy.

The sea of energy in which our vessel does float.

 

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« Last Edit: April 30, 2018, 07:36:18 PM by marathonman »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4250 on: April 30, 2018, 06:54:25 PM »
There is an extreme lack of common sense towards part G in the thought of how it's resistance is implemented in the device. if a resistance in the form of a resistor is used which waste potential that is totally unrecoverable then how to you expect this device to self sustain it it has to supply the primaries potential on a continuous basis. sorry to burst your bubble but it can not.
That thought is totally preposterous and will result in one only logical conclusion, a dead device that will not sustain it's self in any way shape or form.
it behooves you to do the research that proves the validity of this statement with out a doubt.   i to at one time thought part G was resistors but i came to the revelation to the reality after months on the bench proved otherwise thus proving the validity of information from Mr Doug was in fact genuine and scientifically correct.

on the other hand if the proper research was conducted by the individual one would have surmised the use of an inductor used in the proper form outside of the present day usage,  would then arrive at the logical conclusion that the inductance used in a dynamic active state can store and release potential thus reducing  the primary potential draw from the system to that of just the IR2 losses allowing the system to be self sustaining. one then would realize the magnetic fields in the process of storing and releasing of said energies can also be used to control currant on a continuous basis with very high coefficients of self induction by using a core of a high permeability and a large number of coil turns.

if the realization of these very factually scientifically accurate statements are not taken into consideration the probabilities of self sustainment will be reduce to the sum of ZERO.

Of course the choice of one's path is entirely guided by realization of the truth acquired in the pursuit of enlightenment. remaining a fish in the ocean of energies is ones prerogative,  inside looking out.

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it's not really a variable resistor; it's a variable inductor    It must be intermitantly making/breaking contact as it changes from one coil position to another....
when the change stops the same current through both sides (mostly, there is a tiny different in resistance),
and after a time of the magnetic field buildup...

Although I'm not entirely clear why turning one way lights one and turning the other lights the other... maybe because of the changing indductance, as it reduces, the current is increased while the other is decreased because of increased induction?

Hi d3x0r , All
That stay on lit delay effect is a bit puzzling. And I wonder if the voltage across the bulbs goes higer than the battery voltage? I have tried to simulate this circuit with a 20 steps LT Spice Simulation but it gave no such delay effects. I think we have to build a simple test bed with a real variable transformer. But sadly I don't own such. Maybe someone in the audience here is in the possession  of a variable transformer and can replicate that simple test with an osc-scope connected also to verify the effects? A higher voltage across the bulbs and the delay effect.

Regards Arne

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Nice core by the way.

Quote from Wikipedia;
"Any alteration to a circuit which increases the flux (total magnetic field) through the circuit produced by a given current increases the inductance, because inductance is also equal to the ratio of magnetic flux to current."

Sorry d3x0r but my so called  theory on part G is NOT A THEORY, it is plain FACT backed by Physics, real Science and years of bench work, something you seen to be lacking in.

The device pic shown when used with DC will turn the device into an inductor which can theoretically be called a variable transformer but the fact is, it doesn't transform anything.
The more appropriate description would be an inductance amplifier as the magnetic fields of all devices in the system when reduced releases potential when combined causing an amplification to the rising side offsetting the potential drop of storing into the magnetic field for the next half cycle. thus a variable transformer will not function in this capacity as the sole purpose of the device is to store and release potential at the appropriate time amplifying the signal to the rising side of the device.

part G has many functions and if any one of them are negated the device will not operate properly thus will not self sustain. it will then act as a transformer from the fact that potential is supplied to it all the time and this is to be avoided in the Figuera device.

the video a long time ago from Hanon was suggested by me to show him the validity of part G and inductance. when using DC the variac then turned into a self inductance device with the turn of the knob but when stationary did nothing unlike the real part G that has a rotating brush thus varies the inductance on a continuous basis which changes the ratio of magnetic field to currant, which is the ratio of reverse EMF to the original currant flow.

which is exactly what i have been saying for how may years now and still it falls on deaf ears. fish will remain fish no matter what body of water they swim in.

Marathonman

« Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 11:46:44 PM by marathonman »

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Another thing i would like to enlighten people on is the fact that the ring part G Doug so used did in fact work abit some balancing issues i have so encountered myself. just because someone didn't use enough winds did not change the fact that it did to quite some success.

so continuing on this line of reasoning as long as part G is a closed core the shape of it is inconsequential as long as the brush can still rotate in an increase decrease fashion. the use of a closed EI core or a closed C core will do the same thing as long as it is closed core system retaining the magnetic flux fields.
I am in fact building a closed C core part G that will alleviate the balancing issues i have encountered with the ring core which will make it not only easy to balance but easier to wind.  as we all know a toroid is a bitch to wind especially if it is a deep core. then on top of that it is a total bitch to balance.
it is not like your standard C core that has the G dimension being the longest dimension. in my core the A and D is the longest dimension giving the C core a very nice flat surface to wind on. i will then used an adhesive then use a surface grinder to precision flatness for a perfect non sparking brush rotation.
i also designed a custom brush holder that can adjust the diameter of the brushes. this will allow me to dial in the exact high and low's of currant presented to the primaries according to the primary secondary core ratio. it also holds the slip rings and the commutator then attaches to the motor. hopefully i will finish in time to present it with the new part G.

I will present the G core in a week or two when it comes in and i wind it. it is around 12 to 1500 va so i can add additional cores in the future to increase the output.
every single function has been retained as the original thus i foresee no further complication to arise from that of the ring core.

in my off time from the forums i was able to clear my head of the forum BS and make some very startling discoveries through my research and bench work. i now reside on a very, very quiet forum that allows me to think quite clearly and rationally. i am also in a working partnership in the design and building of the 1932 Coutier device (pronounced cou-ti-ay) that amplifies currant to the 6th degree and thus foresee a working device by the end of this year. this also will be presented to everyone at the same time of showing proving the validity of self sustainment.

the 150 year perpetual motion lie will come to a screeching halt.

Marathonman
« Last Edit: May 01, 2018, 11:06:37 PM by marathonman »

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I will say; I was about to put my foot in my mouth I dunno few days ago about N and S blocks not being N and N.
a N approaching one side of a coil and a N receding from the other side of a coil do generate current in the same direction... which is constructive interference... oscillating increasing current to one side, while decreasing current on the other in the same polarity; so on that point, for this, I do have to concur with bucking coils...


The resistance factor doesn't have to be that great....
10 ohms to 1000 ohms is 1:100
same as 0.1 ohms to 10 ohms... which are not a huge loss... I suppose you could range your resistance from 10k to 1M ... probably wouldn't get much OU from that; but then again maybe it's enough to loop and power itself since it also wouldn't consume much current.  but then again, isn't like every potentiometer (variable resistor) balanced from left to right, so you just have to find a way to twist the swiper back and forth?


This device set were all about moving the field back and forth, not moving a formed field past the coil.... because in that scenario, an approaching north to one side of a coil generates the same current as the south side approaching(not a recession in this case) the other side of the coil... and Since Pierre's is really about having a constant field that you can move, these are quite independant.... unless via 'many arrangments are possible' he(Figuera) really meant a totally different arrangement than the one illustrated for 2d paper.




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I hate to say it but i really expected more from someone that has 1300 plus posts. i am really disappointed to say the least.
I have proved as so i thought that part G is an inductor but i guess some people just do not have what it takes to pursue a free energy device as others do and to think you would think a Physics professor would use heat death resistor is laughable at best. but then again you don't really care do you as you are here only to disrupt. i sure am glade i don't know where you live because you would be surprised what i can do to a person like you with my military training.

your a pathetic man if you could call yourself one. how much do you get paid to disrupt troll.
what the really funny part is i am here to just help people out and i can always leave but the most funny part is if you come to my home base you will get Ip blocked and banded for life. ha, ha, ha, ha ! and you can't stop me ever, ha, ha, ha, ha!
this web site was and always a home for troll loosers.

Marathonman


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You do not want resistors in this circuit (well at least in the G part you don't). You just need variable inductance that will resist changes in current.

This creates changes in flux and changes in flux means induced currEnt in the pickup coils

bucking N - N coils will produce the effect of magnet entering a coil and exiting a coil, if the current raises to MAX and then cuts off. Then current in the second primary starts from MAX and dies off.

This is something I am still trying to figure out. You need to have the current raising to MAX on the first coil, then switch at MAX to the second primary. How do I do this with solid state components? How do I start with MAX current in the second primary and not slowly raising current?

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MAYBE GO TO THIS SITE AND THAT WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU.http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

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Belfior;
Have you even read a single post in the last few weeks?????
I have laid out in clear precise english how and why the primaries are raised and lowered in currant in unison so what seems to be the problem?????
Generator do not start at MAX as you say, that would cause an immediate frying of the system. generators take a certain time to ramp up to max and this device being a generator is no exception.
there is NO RESISTORS in this system AT ALL and the total lack of understanding of this this system is really killing people.

The primaries are NEVER CUT OFF, they are raised and lowered in currant in an orderly fashion in unison as the brush rotates. they are NEVER taken below half way or to zero for that mater. that will cause induction to fail as the pressure between the primaries are to be maintained at all times and if not the induction will drop to that of the rising electromagnet.
the pressure between the primaries compresses the field lines to match that of a standard generators high intensity field and are raised and lowered in intensity only to induce motion into the secondary.

reviewing the last few weeks of post might help you but then again who knows.

regards,

Marathonman

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seychelles;
while being a good example at the same time it is not.
as a mag amp it uses the saturation of the core to control currant flow thus does not use the reduction of field to do any useful work.
on the other hand an inductor used in an active state can control currant with the use of reverse EMF that opposes the original currant flow. but that's not all, it stores and releases potential that can be used in a very positive manor to offset the potential drop of the rising side since it is storing into the field for the next half cycle.
this vary information is what i have been posting for weeks and all one has to do is open ones mind and absorb the information presented which is fact, proven on the bench and back by Physics and science not speculation and theories.

regards,

Marathonman

 

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