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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2023755 times)

Offline shadow119g

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4095 on: September 21, 2016, 09:48:39 PM »
Thank you for the information!
I think you are the only one to succeed in our quest.

Thanks again,

Shadow

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4096 on: September 26, 2016, 09:43:16 PM »
I recently presented a spreadsheet for calculating the electromagnets used in a Figuera device. I appreciate the comments forum members made concerning it. The gap calculations in it were wrong because I assumed an air gap. Actually, there are joints which do not have nearly as great a loss as an air gap. This is explained in a 1893 book, Dynamo Electric Machinery. I have copied the pertinent part and included it in the revised spreadsheet.

Having reread the Elementary Dynamo Design book by Bennison Hird, I decided to continue to pursue his experience related recommendation to oversize the inducer coils to compensate for the back EMF in the output that occurs when the power factor 0.8. I asked myself the question "What effect would different oversize inducer coils have on the unit?" To get the answer, I plugged in increasing amp-turn values, and voila...an increase in usable output appeared followed by a decline in output as inducer amp-turns increased. I plugged in a value between the max output amp-turns and the decline amp-turns and found a peak. Additionally, the weight of the unit decreased as the amp -turns increased. The same effect presented itself with a smaller size design. These values are shown in the attached spreadsheet.

The magnet pull for a single inducer pole on the 16KW unit was found to be 2004 lb. Although small bolts have adequate clamping force to hold the inducers and outputs together there will be leakage lines that can attract small, nearby objects. I have not determined a way to protect against attracting them or causing harm to people. I would appreciate any suggestions forum members may have to solve this apparent problem.

I hope this will help some of you. If you see errors, I would appreciate you pointing them out, as I have only the desire to get it right.
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4097 on: September 29, 2016, 03:55:30 PM »
Sam6, what program should I use to view your spread sheet?

Thanks,

Shadow

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4098 on: September 29, 2016, 08:28:33 PM »
Shadow
The spreadsheet is Microsoft Excel, but you can also use some of the free office programs to open it. I hope you find it helpful.
Best regards,
Sam6

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4099 on: September 29, 2016, 11:40:49 PM »
Sam
  I have to assume you understand why no one builds a generator with a single pole field magnet ,not one with any appreciable output.
   

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4100 on: September 30, 2016, 04:21:17 PM »
Doug1
In other words, it might be better if I wind the device rather than try to use a Variac that has to go back and forth.

Good luck,

Shadow

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4101 on: September 30, 2016, 04:23:21 PM »
Sam6
Thanks,

I got it.

Offline Doug1

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« Reply #4102 on: October 01, 2016, 01:53:34 PM »
Diss regard that Sam I didnt see the other two pages in the spread sheet. I thought you were trying to design a single set of inducers with a single output coil. Been a little bit under the weather, nice case of bronchitis.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4103 on: October 03, 2016, 11:08:59 PM »
Doug 1-
No offense taken. I too, suffer from brain farts.....Hope you feel better soon. It occurred to me that the easiest way to restrain the electromagnet inducers may be to clamp them together on each end with the output sections squeezed between the respective N-N and S-S poles. The clamp on one end would consist of a pair of plates long enough to have holes drilled in them above and below the inducer core to accept threaded rods between them, a block of wood on each side between the inducer and plate to provide a huge reluctance in the external magnetic circuit that this contraption creates, and a pair of threaded rods to hold the plates together. It appears that this arrangement may be easier than trying to drill and tap a laminated core for bolts. I don't know if laminations would provide adequate thread holding capacity to restrain the forces. I'm open for better solutions.
Best regards,
Sam6

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4105 on: October 05, 2016, 04:14:59 PM »
The magic of the Figuera generator is that makes possible to convert two variable magnetic fields in time in the electromagnets ( emf = dB/dt ) into a variable magnetic field in space (in the induced coils), as happens in all generators ( emf =  v · B )  moving back and forth the magnetic lines producing a relative velocity between the magnetic lines and the wires, and, therefore creating induction by flux cutting the wires.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4106 on: October 06, 2016, 02:46:02 AM »
hanon,would it not be a sign of respect and honory behaviour like a real gentleman to indicate with whom you reached your actual knowledge level ?
You paid a little but how much did you received for this paid money as technical,by physics experiments and trial-error and success: result experience, value compensation
by Mister " NRamaswami "

        physics link by me:              http://www.rexresearch.com/hooper/hooper1.htm

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4107 on: October 06, 2016, 07:58:27 AM »
Hanon: He visto tu video e incluso lo he resubido a YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGRzTFe5VCg). Mi pregunta es: has hecho experimentos con lo que has expuesto? Si lo hiciste, qué resultados obtuviste? Pregunto pues tu acercamiento me parece muy lógico.
Gracias.
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Hanon: I've seen your video and even I'd re-uploaded it to YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGRzTFe5VCg). Mi question is: did you make any experiments with your findings? If you did, what results did you get? I ask because your line of though seems very logical to me.
Thanks.

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« Reply #4108 on: October 06, 2016, 11:34:02 AM »
If you read the whole forum even some posts I did in 2013 you will see that from that date I defend the poles in repulsion design while the user you mentioned only used north-south polarity in his post and designs. I did not convince him of my point and he did not convince me of his proposal. If you really want to understand the patents you just have to read them tens of times as I did and analyze them in detail.

Less reading of strange and unrelated patents are you post here daily and more reading of Figuera patents, especially the one written in 1908. This is the key.

Good luck and keep on searching for more patents..

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« Reply #4109 on: October 06, 2016, 02:23:22 PM »
Hello hanon,
I have no problem with your explanation !


If you read the whole forum even some posts I did in 2013 you will see that from that date I defend the poles in repulsion design while the user you mentioned only used north-south polarity in his post and designs. I did not convince him of my point and he did not convince me of his proposal. If you really want to understand the patents you just have to read them tens of times as I did and analyze them in detail.Less reading of strange and unrelated patents are you post here daily and more reading of Figuera patents, especially the one written in 1908. This is the key.
Good luck and keep on searching for more patents..



" Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE"

Imagine this would be the drive from an vtol : how many transmission steps you want to have ?
         
               think 4Dimensional,but begin with a conventional car drive
               then think on land,under sea and on air


you are both right !     The Wheel : cw and ccw ; Audi Quatro transmission ? 4 X wheel-e-drives ?

                                    engine propulsion and transmission probably as automatic (solar-planet-gear)

                                   all terrain and spaces vehicle

Do you really think that I am in search ?


Sincerely
              OCWL