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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4080 on: September 01, 2016, 12:15:52 AM »
I am yet.to.test the NSNS theory but I powered.my multifillar coil with 200VAC and hold a magnet above it and viola there start to be a Vibration of the underneath Electromagnet. I turned to the other.sides, the vibration sprang up too indicaticating that the Polarity is ever instantly reversing from N-S to.S-N on each sides and thus cormirms that N-S to S-N makes a Motionless Motor.

Ramaswami, you need no magnet to reduce the inputs current. All you need is High frequency, High Voltage. And Ferrite Core.

Do not get me.wrong, when I said N-S to S-N makes.motionleess Motor , I really mean The motionless  MoGen must be in attraction mode. Because it is only with.that that there can be really accelation of Electrons on the secondary copper wire windings

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« Reply #4081 on: September 01, 2016, 12:15:52 AM »
I am yet.to.test the NSNS theory but I powered.my multifillar coil with 200VAC and hold a magnet above it and viola there start to be a Vibration of the underneath Electromagnet. I turned to the other.sides, the vibration sprang up too indicaticating that the Polarity is ever instantly reversing from N-S to.S-N on each sides and thus cormirms that N-S to S-N makes a Motionless Motor.

Ramaswami, you need no magnet to reduce the inputs current. All you need is High frequency, High Voltage. And Ferrite Core.

Do not get me.wrong, when I said N-S to S-N makes.motionleess Motor , I really mean The motionless  MoGen must be in attraction mode. Because it is only with.that that there can be really accelation of Electrons on the secondary copper wire windings

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4082 on: September 02, 2016, 11:09:12 AM »
static generator with rotative commutator :
I mean the work principle of these electro magnet devices are best explained by the Henri Trilles document :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


a cascading Volt and Ampére generator ,the commutating=alternating


really surprising the need of going up and partially going down with the physical values for the next stages.


H. Trilles made in his numbers calculations two errors (my view) 88+22= 110 and not 116 Volt as final voltage and to accumulate the five "systems" Voltage and Ampérage is also wrong : 110 V (correct voltage) x 23 Ampére = 2530 VA total (5)systems output


                                                       numerical output     5 systems X   (22V x 23 A) = 5 X ( 506 VA)


                                   The Fifuera/Buforn concept will not have special different working principles.


22V x 23 A output for 1 system by 2,15 VA( 6V x 0,35A bicycle alternator) system input is a start point for the "grid-autonomous household".

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« Reply #4083 on: September 03, 2016, 11:12:55 AM »
Dear Sir

In my experience 4 square mm wire with resistance of 4.95 ohms per 1000 meters developed 10 amps at 300 volts AC.

Now which type of wire will develop 23 amps at 22 volts. Is the output dc or pulsed dc or ac.

Since the patent is in a language I d o not understand I am not able to understand it.

Please advise.

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« Reply #4084 on: September 03, 2016, 12:49:47 PM »

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19940318&CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3

Here a google translation from the Henri Trilles amplifier description (the patent system own automatic translator works bad ) :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=FR&NR=2695768A3&KC=A3&FT=D&ND=3&date=19940318&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
go to Drawings page 1 (9/11) from the original documents ( I calculate 16 couples ! ?)
there is also shown the pole direction from each e-magnet

Drawings page 2 (10/11) from the original document (I calculate 30 couples ! )

a simple 1-2 steps prototype (no need of full concept construction) is enough to approve the functionality

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Amplifier Circuit Electric (fixed)


This invention project concerns the possibility of amplifying a primary current (AC) lt origine provided by a small generator (6 volts 0.35 amps) with a series of seats transformers has one after the other linked together until has come to have an electromotive force (voltage and amperage) sufficient to supply the engine of a direct electric motor or via 1 or 2 batteries buffers without being constantly obligee going to charge its batteries.


This circuit is based on the ability of alternating currents to be amplified by transformers.


At present an electric car supplied with power by 8 batteries 12 volts or 96 volts and consumes 2 amperes per km has a range of 80 to 90 km and the weight of these batteries handicap enormously.


So I thought through to provide an electrical current constantly renewed and therefore inexhaustible.


The set consists of 30 coils (wound with nickel silver wire). This metal has 30 resistivity will amplify together voltages and amperages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver

All 2 coils form a pair they will be nested on a soft iron bar (annealing) of sufficient length to not only electricity by influence can be felt in one at the other.


3 couples (6 coils) will form a series.


These pairs are connected together by a wire with a capacitor and each series is connected to the next (oriented in the opposite direction to the first by an also wire with capacitor) that will go to the induced coil (the 2nd) of the last pair of series to the field coil of l torque of the new series.


And so on couples, series, systems (2 sets) with the same windings corresponding coils and therefore the same currents will lead us to the end of the circuit with a maximum voltage and amperage.


These systems will number 5 so 10 sets of 6 coils.     
 
1   coil
2   coils = 1 pair/couple
6   coils = 3 couples = 1 set/series
30 coils = 5 sets/series = 1 system                             x 2 = cw/ccw or positive/negative =AC


DESCRIPTION
All or part of 5 'system be used to power the motor or
to charge the buffer battery or to give the current refrigerator
which will be housed in all coils.


We interposerons just outside the 5 'system a rectifier
because the AC obtained at the end circuit should be changed W
DC power to charge the battery.


A small dynamo is connected to the battery it will be used to train
mechanically with pulleys and belts the little generator providing
the starting current of the circuit.


Each pair of lead wire or serial number or system will have
a capacitor to allow current instead of being behind
the tension of being ahead and at least compensate for this delay. We inter
calerons also at the end of the circuit a rheostat for metering the quantities
current required for each new item.


Note: The dimensions of the refrigerator (or freezer) used
will depend on the dimensions of coils.


OPERATION
Introduction
It was observed long ago that when inserting a magnet in a wound coil of copper wire (or other electrically conductive metal) is produced in the coil an electric current. And that when removing the magnet it is born in the coil of another current direction opposite to the previous. And if the fast is introduced and is removed from said coil magnet over this movement to introduce and remove are numerous and faster and the current increases rapidly.


We get the same result in even faster by using an electromagnet instead of the magnet and by sending alternating current.


The current changes direction many times (50 or more) per second will represent more rapid introduction and removal of the magnet and increase the power over it.       
                                                                                                =  50Hz (as example)


A coil induced by the electromagnet will have a power all the more powerful it will be yarn length subjected to the magnetic flux.


All the proposed circuit is based the above.






Operation
As we explained in the description and drawing the circuit is composed of 2 pairs of coils (wound with nickel wire resistivity 30) which will enable us better than copper of lower resistivity barely 1.56 to advance pair of voltages and amperage (all couples are numbered).


The primary current is supplied by a small generator (used at present to provide lighting to barely 6 volts bicycles and Oa, 35 an electromotive force of 2 watts, 15.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/bicycle-light-generator     
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/6v-3w-Bicycle-bike-Dynamo-Generator-Charge-Charging-for-Cellphone-GPS-w-Bracket-/130944233480

Our first task will be to increase the amperage (more powerful therefore the greatest electromotive force) torque n "1
We therefore bear the winding 10 of the coil (inductor) to 9 m on a nickel wire of 2 mm diameter is 6 this thread cross-sectional area of ​​5 mm2 30.


The resistance will be obtained 0.49 (related to the fact that over 15 m long nickel silver 2 mm in diameter so 3 14 mm2 section has a resistance of 1 ohm, 4).


The voltage is 6 volts we will get the amperage divided by 0.49 6 which will be 14 amperes (6 x 14 = 84 Watts) instead of 2.15 watts to the origin.


This coil turning soft iron bar electromagnet it will be much more powerful and provide the 2 "coil induced a stronger induction.


This new amperage (14a) was able to circulate in the winding wire of the coil induced thanks to the its thread section which is 5 mm 3 and allows to pass 14 amps widely (3 amps maximum can circulate per mm2 wire section).


The second coil on the same bar of soft iron (induced coil) will have a winding 6 m instead of 9 which will decrease the voltage and bring to 4 volts the wire section is also reduced from 5 mm 3 to 4 mm 52 we will have a 38 ohm resistor O by dividing the voltage by the resistance, a rating of 12 amps.


It is this current of 4 volts with 12 amps to be forwarded to the first coil (inductor) 20 following couple who will have the dual winding of the previous coil is 12 meters by 6 so a voltage that will be door 8 volts resistance of 0.66 so a rating of 8: 12a = 0.66 that will excite the electromagnet of the new couple.


The induced coil of this new couple with a winding 15 mm for 6.15 of a section of O ohm resistor 71 carry the new DC 10 volts 0.71 = 14 amperes by the wire connecting them will excite electro magnet flowing in the field coil 30 of the last couples of the series and we will finish the series with a current raised to 14 volts and 16 a.


Everything is explained in the attached table.


The current obtained at the end of this series will be transmitted to the next series inverted relative thereto ie the current will go in the opposite direction and the two coils (the latter induced) of the leer and the series ( first induction) in the following series will be placed as close (to avoid any length of wire off the windings).


And thus torque couple of series in series systems systems (a system 2 series 1 series 3 couples, 1 couple 2 coils) in all 5 systems we get to the end of the circuit to the last induced coil there a catch thread fairly large section reccueillera the resulting current.


The lengths of wire, section resistances, voltages, amperages couples will be exactly the same for all five similar systems 10 system.


At the end of each system as at the end of each series last coil induced transmit its power to the first induction coil in the following series reversed from the previous (so that we will no longer need alternator) which therefore used only for the 10 pair of the whole.


At the end of each system a current of 6 volts and 1 ampere maximum will be charged to fuel 1 "field coil of the next system. So at the end of the first 4 systems we have 28 volts 6 volts for the next system will 22 volts and 28 amps to the last system in total 22 x 4 = 88 + 22 = 116 volts and 23 amps 5 times = 115 amps.


At the end of the 50 system we will have 116 volts and 115 amps.


A rheostat allow us to control the amount of current to each of the elements that follow.


A rectifier connected between the end of the circuit and the battery for example, we will transform the alternating current into direct current to charge the battery or batteries to 6 amps hour.


This or these batteries will feed the refrigerator (400 watts 12 wolts one kilowatt per 24 hours) and will turn the dynamo using pulleys and belts will cause the alternator mechanically.


If 96 volts are required to walk from the car engine, we will remain 20 volts for these functions and a lot of amps.

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« Reply #4085 on: September 04, 2016, 09:23:17 AM »
Good catch.As you see the same pattern. McFarland Cook,Hubbard,Kunel, Sweet,Steven Mark and so on .... it's just a matter of using simple induction laws.Now we may ask - why those rich bastards talking about climate change do not recognize the importance of such inventions ??? BECAUSE IT IS TOO EASY and everyone could build it , no matter if a worker with good salary or a poorer man in not industrial country yard.
Bill Gates invests millions of dollars to build small nuclear plant, because what ?
Zuckenberg (creator of Facebook) wants to give billion to develop new energy sources ? you are kidding !
Maybe Elon Musk will be installing such devices in his electric Tesla cars ? An electric car whcih do not need to tank fuel? NO WAY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I

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« Reply #4086 on: September 04, 2016, 10:03:34 AM »
Forest

The secrrt is in the wire used. Where do you get wire made up of copper zinc and Nickel and that too insulated wire. All earth batteries have iron and zinc electrodes placed in carbon and salt and water.
They are not the tiny earth batteries shown in YouTube but large multiple module ones. We have no funding and no knowledge on these things here.

Gettung funds for these projects is the biggest issue. Then the inventor must come forward and share knowledge truthfullt and in a detailed way.  Again those who try to implement must havre funds to do it. The hurdles are many.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4087 on: September 04, 2016, 11:29:21 AM »
Lanca
Would it be possible to get a contact number or more info on this inventor ? [if he is still on the planet?]

respectfully
Chet K

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Apology I see you have started a new thread  :-[

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« Reply #4088 on: September 04, 2016, 09:05:58 PM »
marathonman,
going to the first page and reading I mean user bajac could critizise me,


related to your ,marathonman,post content :

Thanks for getting your own thread as you post everything but Figuera. your post are nothing but mumbo jumbo ramblings of a person that is high on dope or takes medication to be stable.
you have completely disrespected the Figuera thread and ran it into the ground along with those to stupid idiots darediamond and Rswami.
piss poor research and piss poor intelligence with absolutely no direction.
you three stooges are pathetic researchers with no direction or reasonable intelligence. blind leading the blind and wouldn't know Figuera if he fell into your lap.



I have to say that the disrespect to Figuera -your claimed standpoint-has had begun with the first page.
                          Not the original paper content was the thread object !


The rest of your post reflects only your social degree.


Regard
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p.s.: http://cacharreo.com.es/foro/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1059 
                                        June,12 2013
       
       El hilo en OU es:[/font][/size]http://www.overunity.com/12794/re-inven ... t1-clement[/size] e_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/#.UXu9gzcQHqU
Aquí se centran más en el uso del Arduino.


to the last 3rd of September 2016 post
http://cacharreo.com.es/foro/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1059&start=1410


p.p.s.: https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/history/
The company from Berlin which built some of the pieces, got curious about what they would be used for, sent an engineer to the Canary Islands, with the pretext of helping set up and with real purpose to study and sketch the whole device, but has not achieved his objective. Apparently, Mr. Figueras´ apparatus consists essentially of three parts: a collector, a transformer and an accumulator, so that, in short, what it does is to collect atmospheric electricity, transforming it from static to dynamic and store it in a secondary battery for later use in the form and amount required.


This is not written in the official and original Figuera/Buforn documents as working principle.

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« Reply #4089 on: September 04, 2016, 10:08:06 PM »
"This is not written in the official and original Figuera/Buforn documents as working principle."


You are wrong.

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« Reply #4090 on: September 04, 2016, 10:16:19 PM »
"This is not written in the official and original Figuera/Buforn documents as working principle."


You are wrong.


forest,
"Apparently, Mr. Figueras´ apparatus consists essentially of three parts: a collector, a transformer and an accumulator, so that, in short, what it does is to collect atmospheric electricity, transforming it from static to dynamic and store it in a secondary battery for later use in the form and amount required."


Where in the 1902-1914 papers I will find this conceptual process written ?

https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/newspaperchicago1902.gif?w=700
motor +  generator + regulator, 1902 version


and the only existing official patent agent approved description document,1910 Buforn
http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/test.pdf

(I am not writing about Teslas magnifying trans/-mitter/-former ::)  Figuera/Buforn thread)
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"One watt-second of power is not much. As normally thought of, it is just one watt delivered over a period of one second. Oh what a vast difference however, can be the manifestation of one billion watts delivered for one billionth of a second."

This is a journal text and foreign speculative opinion before the first 1902 patent application,
not a description from the inventor :

http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258
For example, in the May 1902 edition of the journal The Reading in Science and Arts[/i] is written:
In the English newspapers are extensive references to an important discovery conducted by D. Clemente Figueras, forest engineer in Canary Islands and physics professor at College San Agustin from Las Palmas. Mr. Figueras has been working silently in order to find a method to use directly, ie, without dynamos and chemical agent, the huge amounts of electricity which exist in the atmosphere and are being renewed constantly, constituting an inexhaustible reservoir of this form of energy. Our compatriot (…) has achieved his purpose, having managed to invent a generator which can collect and store the atmospheric electric fluid in a position of being able to use later for pulling trams, trains, etc., or to run machinery in factories to light the houses and streets. Although no one knows the details of the procedure that Mr. Figueras reserves until he will get it completely perfected, he states that his invention will produce a tremendous economic and industrial revolution. The apparatus devised by Mr. Figueras has been built in separate pieces, in accordance with the drawings made by him in different companies in Paris, Berlin and Las Palmas. Received the parts, the engineer has put them together and articulate in his workshop. The company from Berlin which built some of the pieces, got curious about what they would be used for, sent an engineer to the Canary Islands, with the pretext of helping set up and with real purpose to study and sketch the whole device, but has not achieved his objective. Apparently, Mr. Figueras´ apparatus consists essentially of three parts: a collector, a transformer and a accumulator, so that, in short, what it does is to collect atmospheric electricity, transforming it from static to dynamic and store it in a secondary battery for later use in the form and amount required. We have understood that the inventor will soon come to Madrid and, later he will depart to Berlin and London, and then you will be able to know the procedure in detail.[/i]


the essential sentences from the (translated) 1902 Figuera patent application:
 CLEMENTE FIGUERA PATENT (1902) No. 30375 (SPAIN)
a.
We, through an intermittent or alternating electric current achieve a variation in the magnetic state of the cores of the excitatory electromagnets, and also changing, the magnetic state of the cores on which the induced circuit is coiled, where electric currents appear ready to be industrially exploited.

b. ... in our procedure, the same lines of force, which are born and die cross through the coils on the induced.


and the knowledge about piezo/pyro-ceramic related with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transducer

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« Reply #4091 on: September 07, 2016, 07:56:51 AM »
"The existence of electricity in the atmospheric layer that surrounds our globe is
absolutely undeniable, and its existence according to ancient theories is
attributed to the evaporation of water vapour and air friction and also may be
attributed almost wholly, according to modern theories, to the great electro-
magnetic currents and numerous emanations components of the mysterious
fluid thrown by the great star over our small planet. A small portion of those
currents and emanations remain condensed or accumulated in our magnetic
surrounding, and the rest is impregnating up to the last atom of our terrestrial
mass."


Read Buforn patent

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« Reply #4092 on: September 07, 2016, 11:03:40 AM »
Good morning,forest


this document part does not explain an "atmospheric energy converter"-type like  the speculation in the 1902 journal article !


The earth : a magnet,which works like a capacitor       
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_current
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitance#Capacitance_and_.27displacement_current.27




Reading Buforns last document I think that it is a Back-EMF-less/free transformer:
 https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-constantino-buforn-1914_num_57955.pdf    page 27/51


                                       a monopolar(uni-directional) magnetic machine


the work process: page 28 : 1 Ampére-equivalent charge X coil windings = Ampére-turns(=velocity)
1 Ampere in and by turns velocity amplification 300 Ampere out. 
« Last Edit: September 07, 2016, 01:25:45 PM by lancaIV »

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« Reply #4093 on: September 19, 2016, 10:39:18 PM »
WOW!
A lot has been going on. I have been studying and rereading all the posts since the beginning!
Looks like all has been figured out.
I have been collecting items I need to start my build of the Clemente Figuera device. What an
Amazing invention. I have spent a lot of time with the Don Smith and other devices.
The Figuera Device has some advantages over anything using a spark gap plus extreme high voltage.
It looks like to me the Figuera device once properly made should almost maintenance free for long
periods of time. One might want to build two part “G’s” wired up for emergencies.

Marathonman: Does the motor go round and round or back and forth?

Many thanks to Doug1, Marathonman, Hannon, and Cadman

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« Reply #4094 on: September 21, 2016, 01:30:39 PM »
The bars are layed out next to each other with only one end of the bars connected to the wires so as the brush rotates it makes contact with them back and forth even though the brush is going round. No need to rotate the entire field magnet ,just make the magnetic field mimic rotation. You'll need a better then text book understanding of a generator that uses an excited field magnet. Hands on experience and practice. Even repairmen may only be following a procedure to diagnose a problem as laid out in a manual without having to actually know the details of how the thing works. There is a need to go a little bit further then that.