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« Reply #4065 on: August 26, 2016, 03:59:40 AM »
Youppiii!
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« Reply #4066 on: August 26, 2016, 11:59:34 AM »
                                          Re-Inventing The Wheel ,
                   here: Re-Inventing The Electric Circuit For Self-Excitation
Let us do a temporal improvement list (if possible including concept papers):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Fothergill_Cooke
then studied medicine in Paris, and at Heidelberg under Georg Wilhelm Munke. In 1836 he saw electric telegraphy, then only experimental: Munke had illustrated his lectures with a telegraphic apparatus on the principle introduced by Pavel Schilling in 1835. Cooke decided to put the invention into practical operation with the railway systems; and gave up medicine.[1]

Early in 1837 Cooke returned to England, with introductions to Michael Faraday and Peter Mark Roget. Through them he was introduced to Charles Wheatstone, who in 1834 gave the Royal Society an account of experiments on the velocity of electricity. Cooke had already constructed a system of telegraphing with three needles on Schilling's principle, and made designs for a mechanical alarm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Schilling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Wheatstone
Electrical generatorsIn 1840, Wheatstone brought out his magneto-electric machine for generating continuous currents.
On 4 February 1867, he published the principle of reaction in the dynamo-electric machine by a paper to the Royal Society; but Mr. C. W. Siemens had communicated the identical discovery ten days earlier, and both papers were read on the same day.


from Faraday to early motors(and permanent magnets to electro-magnets)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_motor
Perhaps the first electric motors were simple electrostatic devices created by the Scottish monk Andrew Gordon in the 1740s.[2] The theoretical principle behind production of mechanical force by the interactions of an electric current and a magnetic field, Ampère's force law, was discovered later by André-Marie Ampère in 1820. The conversion of electrical energy into mechanical energy by electromagnetic means was demonstrated by the British scientist Michael Faraday in 1821. A free-hanging wire was dipped into a pool of mercury, on which a permanent magnet (PM) was placed. When a current was passed through the wire, the wire rotated around the magnet, showing that the current gave rise to a close circular magnetic field around the wire.[3] This motor is often demonstrated in physics experiments, brine substituting for toxic mercury. Though Barlow's wheel was an early refinement to this Faraday demonstration, these and similar homopolar motors were to remain unsuited to practical application until late in the century.
  (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/98/Jedlik_motor.jpg/200px-Jedlik_motor.jpg)   Jedlik's "electromagnetic self-rotor", 1827 (Museum of Applied Arts, Budapest). The historic motor still works perfectly today.[4]   In 1827, Hungarian physicist Ányos Jedlik started experimenting with electromagnetic coils. After Jedlik solved the technical problems of the continuous rotation with the invention of the commutator, he called his early devices "electromagnetic self-rotors". Although they were used only for instructional purposes, in 1828 Jedlik demonstrated the first device to contain the three main components of practical DC motors: the stator, rotor and commutator. The device employed no permanent magnets, as the magnetic fields of both the stationary and revolving components were produced solely by the currents flowing through their windings.[5][6][7][8][9][10][11]
 Success with DC motorsAfter many other more or less successful attempts with relatively weak rotating and reciprocating apparatus the Prussian Moritz von Jacobi created the first real rotating electric motor in May 1834 that actually developed a remarkable mechanical output power. His motor set a world record which was improved only four years later in September 1838 by Jacobi himself. His second motor was powerful enough to drive a boat with 14 people across a wide river. It was not until 1839/40 that other developers worldwide managed to build motors of similar and later also of higher performance.
The first commutator DC electric motor capable of turning machinery was invented by the British scientist William Sturgeon in 1832.[12] Following Sturgeon's work, a commutator-type direct-current electric motor made with the intention of commercial use was built by the American inventor Thomas Davenport, which he patented in 1837. The motors ran at up to 600 revolutions per minute, and powered machine tools and a printing press.[13] Due to the high cost of primary battery power, the motors were commercially unsuccessful and Davenport went bankrupt. Several inventors followed Sturgeon in the development of DC motors but all encountered the same battery power cost issues. No electricity distribution had been developed at the time. Like Sturgeon's motor, there was no practical commercial market for these motors.[14]
In 1855, Jedlik built a device using similar principles to those used in his electromagnetic self-rotors that was capable of useful work.[5][11] He built a model electric vehicle that same year.[15]
A major turning point in the development of DC machines took place in 1864, when Antonio Pacinotti described for the first time the ring armature with its symmetrically grouped coils closed upon themselves and connected to the bars of a commutator, the brushes of which delivered practically non-fluctuating current.[16][17] The first commercially successful DC motors followed the invention by Zénobe Gramme who, in 1871, reinvented Pacinotti's design. In 1873, Gramme showed that his dynamo could be used as a motor, which he demonstrated to great effect at exhibitions in Vienna and Philadelphia by connecting two such DC motors at a distance of up to 2 km away from each other, one as a generator.[18] (See also 1873 : l'expérience décisive [Decisive Workaround] .)
In 1886, Frank Julian Sprague invented the first practical DC motor, a non-sparking motor that maintained relatively constant speed under variable loads. Other Sprague electric inventions about this time greatly improved grid electric distribution (prior work done while employed by Thomas Edison), allowed power from electric motors to be returned to the electric grid, provided for electric distribution to trolleys via overhead wires and the trolley pole, and provided controls systems for electric operations. This allowed Sprague to use electric motors to invent the first electric trolley system in 1887–88 in Richmond VA, the electric elevator and control system in 1892, and the electric subway with independently powered centrally controlled cars, which were first installed in 1892 in Chicago by the South Side Elevated Railway where it became popularly known as the "L". Sprague's motor and related inventions led to an explosion of interest and use in electric motors for industry, while almost simultaneously another great inventor was developing its primary competitor, which would become much more widespread. The development of electric motors of acceptable efficiency was delayed for several decades by failure to recognize the extreme importance of a relatively small air gap between rotor and stator. Efficient designs have a comparatively small air gap.[19] [a] The St. Louis motor, long used in classrooms to illustrate motor principles, is extremely inefficient for the same reason, as well as appearing nothing like a modern motor.[20]

Emergence of AC motors In 1824, the French physicist François Arago formulated the existence of rotating magnetic fields, termed Arago's rotations, which, by manually turning switches on and off, Walter Baily demonstrated in 1879 as in effect the first primitive induction motor.[22][23] [24][25] In the 1880s, many inventors were trying to develop workable AC motors[26] because AC's advantages in long-distance high-voltage transmission were counterbalanced by the inability to operate motors on AC. The first alternating-current commutatorless induction motors were independently invented by Galileo Ferraris and Nikola Tesla, a working motor model having been demonstrated by the former in 1885 and by the latter in 1887. In 1888, the Royal Academy of Science of Turin published Ferraris's research detailing the foundations of motor operation while however concluding that "the apparatus based on that principle could not be of any commercial importance as motor."[25][27][28][29][30][31][32][33][34][35][36][37][38] In 1888, Tesla presented his paper A New System for Alternating Current Motors and Transformers to the AIEE that described three patented two-phase four-stator-pole motor types: one with a four-pole rotor forming a non-self-starting reluctance motor, another with a wound rotor forming a self-starting induction motor, and the third a true synchronous motor with separately excited DC supply to rotor winding. One of the patents Tesla filed in 1887, however, also described a shorted-winding-rotor induction motor. George Westinghouse promptly bought Tesla's patents, employed Tesla to develop them, and assigned C. F. Scott to help Tesla; however, Tesla left for other pursuits in 1889.[25][32][35][36][37][38][39][40][41][42] [43][44][45][46] The constant speed AC induction motor was found not to be suitable for street cars[26] but Westinghouse engineers successfully adapted it to power a mining operation in Telluride, Colorado in 1891.[47][48][49] Steadfast in his promotion of three-phase development, Mikhail Dolivo-Dobrovolsky invented the three-phase cage-rotor induction motor in 1889 and the three-limb transformer in 1890. This type of motor is now used for the vast majority of commercial applications.[50][51] However, he claimed that Tesla's motor was not practical because of two-phase pulsations, which prompted him to persist in his three-phase work.[52] Although Westinghouse achieved its first practical induction motor in 1892 and developed a line of polyphase 60 hertz induction motors in 1893, these early Westinghouse motors were two-phase motors with wound rotors until B. G. Lamme developed a rotating bar winding rotor.[39] The General Electric Company began developing three-phase induction motors in 1891.[39] By 1896, General Electric and Westinghouse signed a cross-licensing agreement for the bar-winding-rotor design, later called the squirrel-cage rotor.[39] Induction motor improvements flowing from these inventions and innovations were such that a 100 horsepower (HP) induction motor currently has the same mounting dimensions as a 7.5 HP motor in 1897.[39]

https://de.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9mSs2PIGcBXs6sAGF8zCQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZmVxM3N0BGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Self-excited+Magnetic+Field&fr=mcafee
http://circuitglobe.com/types-of-dc-generator-separately-excited-and-self-excited.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet

http://rexresearch.com/mrmagnet/mrmagnet.htm
  (enter the PDF)                                                                         
page 18: steady magnetic field/ rotating magnetic field : voltage !

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Eric_Dollard_Document_Collection/Rotating%20Magnetic%20Field.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Ehrenhaft
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« Reply #4067 on: August 27, 2016, 09:53:03 PM »
https://archive.org/stream/Clemente_Figuera/Buforn%20translation%20patent%2057955%20year%201914_djvu.txt


By using a magnetic field, consisting of two series of electromagnets N and S, a resistor and a circumference of contacts isolated from each other. . . Note that only the contacts located in the Northern semicircle are in communication with half of the end sides of each resistor, and the contacts in the South semicircle are not in communication with the resistor, but respectively with the contacts in the semicircle communicated with half of the end sides of each resistor, and inasmuch as the current moves on the magnetic field and returns from it by the input and output sides of the resistor, and as this field is composed of two series of electromagnets N and S , therefore, and as result of the operation of the device when the electromagnets N are full of current, the electromagnets S are empty, and as the current flowing through them is reducing or increasing in intensity according it passes by more or less turns of the resistor, and therefore, in continuous variation;


 since we have done a continuous and organized variation we have achieved a constant change in the current which crosses the magnetic field formed by the electromagnets N and S and whose current, after completing their task in the different electromagnets, returns to the source where it was taken. We have already achieved to produce the continuous and organized change of the intensity of the current which crosses the magnetic field.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip-flop_(electronics)

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« Reply #4068 on: August 28, 2016, 08:53:19 AM »
I don't understand this sentence : "of the current which crosses the magnetic field. "[/size]


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« Reply #4069 on: August 28, 2016, 10:03:15 AM »
lancaIV

Sir..with due respect there are 16 contacts and yes only 8 wires going from one side. But the 16 contacts are connected to one another in parallel. Contact 1 and 16 are connected as are contact 2 and 15 and so on.

Therefore current always flows on both sides. The intensity is increased and decreased. 

Forest. .sir ..your question is valid. This is why I feel that primary magnets are permanent magnets and the current made them magnetic amplifiers. 

The Engineering student who works on this project in spare time tells me that while the commutator is difficult to make as it requires specific machine tools and expertise once made it can be very robust and as the current flowing is very low but voltage is increased in the resistors it can work as claimed.  But unfortunately we do not have dc machines and dc commutator manufacturers now. Those who do have specific designs which are different from the one given in the patent.

We can use high voltage Ac to do the same thing but we would need steel that will not be  demagnetised by Ac (no magnetic field collapse to zero) or we would need pulsed dc with Full positive sign wave sent through high resistance wires preferably multifilar coils.

We have built the commutator as described and run it only to see that it produces six inch long sparks. If we put a metal plate to capture the sparks and conect a high voltage low amp transformer to secondary the plate can be hit by continuous sparks. But again this requires the primary to have its own magnetic field.

I do not have high voltage wires and I do not have steel rods. The commutator design is very special and probably it worked at 10 to 25 hz frequency if the patent info s accurate.  I have checked the whole of Siuth India and unfortunately we could not find dc commutator manufacturers who would build the design and costing is also very high. In any case the commutator only created Ac from Dc and would not be required once started. The brushes will definitely wear out in a short period and this is what makes me suspect that it was used to create high voltage sparks from very low dc input. The primary ends also go to earth.

If we use even mild permanent magnets in primary then they will have their magnetism increased and decreased as the current flows through them as described in the patent. A very high voltage input will take care of voltage division as well easily.  But just two large primary cores would be sufficient.  With 220 volts in primary I was able to get up to 350 volts in secondary in the center slone or about 70 volts and good current that can light 10*w
200 watts lamps.  If we put permanent magnets and increase the voltage to 880 which my wires can handle secondary should increase to 280-300 volts and 10-12 amps. Just with a single module.

Putting permanent magnets in primary will also remove the criticism of Doug that a Generator should have a weak magnetic firld left in the cores.  It will also produce  the magnetic amplifier effect.

This is the only way the description that only a small current is needed to excite the primary. 

The patent is so vague and mislwading in many places and cleverly written.  I think the resistor array can also prevent back emf from coming tovthe commutator but not sure on that.

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Ramaswami

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« Reply #4070 on: August 28, 2016, 11:26:42 AM »
What do you really want,Ramaswami ?


How I wrote and think: nobody will ever build a 100% Figuera/Buforn engine/generator but the idea is to enginer a machine based by
the Figuera/Buforn work principle and process result !


                               Magnetic field force amplification and field lines crossing to get amplified electric power !


              You explain good teste results power related,but you do not write about material behaviour/consumption !
                                                                     Material as solid fuel !


                             Do not be afraid: also all other energy converter are not "physically imortal" !
                     Solar cells 30 years periodically use( sun ),but only 3 years permanent use (light box)
                                                    drop-away plastic cells: 1/2 year by periodic use

                                                   Batteries: 90 days(lead) up to several years(redox)


                                                               per KWh-production price :
                                      recycleability and earth rock material mining quantity dependant !

                                       You will have to get your results repeat-and measureable.
With 220 volts in primary I was able to get up to 350 volts in secondary in the center slone or about 70 volts and good current that can light 10*w [/size]200 watts lamps. :[/size]
                                                                               intensity ? power consume/conversion

pulsed power and human eye: http://www.google.com/patents/US5130608
Since the useful energy is expended mainly during the pulse width but not during the resting period between pulses, which is relatively much larger than the pulse width, [/font][/size]yet too short to be perceptible to the human eye, considerable energy can be saved while nevertheless maintaining brightness of illumination.


                                                   less input seems to be higher input : attention paying !

                               Begin with < 1000VA result experiments,let this examine officially ,
                                        later > 1000 VA range experiments (especially for the India power consumer) !   
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                                                  As basic teste configuration :                     [/size]
                                                              Which VA input ?[/size]
".... If we put permanent magnets and increase the voltage to 880 which my wires can handle secondary should increase to 280-300 volts and 10-12 amps. ..."[/size]


 With less/more VA input ? remark the results ! heat measurement / curve
                                 material vibration/(thermal)noise ?!
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                               Think and visualizing tools :      http://www.coolmagnetman.com/magvisual.htm


                                        It is classical enginneering using quantum science work range


Thinking about Figuera/Buforn given numbers:
20 horse-power ,continous or peak value ?,electric motor serving
                                                                          gear-ed/-free ?
1902-1914 there has not been an industrial production standart
 (neither national nor international)   

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« Reply #4071 on: August 28, 2016, 01:06:33 PM »
Sir..

This is a very expensive project.  Each test required a team work.

I do not understand your comments on material as fuel or material consumption. Material remains intact.

If we provide current to make primary  electromagnets and from there we try to generate electricity from secondary most of the time we are biund to fail unless we reach core saturation.  On the other hand if we use partially magnetised permanent magnet core  in primary then we needcto give high voltage and lower amperage only to get very good output far in excess of input.  This is quite simple and straight forward. Using Ac input multifilar coils and a mild permanent magnetic core in primary we can easily achieve this. But none will accept this.

How we can make this in to a self runner is not clear to me. There are theories but I have not even tried ascthey are said to be very dangerous to conduct. I cannot take risks.

Somehow 15% of soft iron used by s has become permanent magnets.  Very mild but not clear to me how. Professor who lokked at my results wanted me to test each rod for magnetism and we took a long time and got about 75 kgm of soft iron rods of different magnetic strength. 

I cannot say why the same rod is stronger at one end and weaker at another end. Their magnetism is removed only by heating. Somehow magnetic remanance has formed in soft iron rods but not in all and even in the same rod it is varying in places.

I will be working on other principles as time and money permits and subject to availability of team.  Whatever I indicated can be verified easily.

In fact Mr. Cadman accepted that He tested the NS NS NS variation suggested by me and found it to be cop <1.
There is nothing surprising in it as he used single module and used current to make primary electromagnets.  If he has used higher voltage input and permanent magnets he eould have got bettee results.

I find my results and observations to be different from a lot of accepted info stated here and we have replicated again to verify our results. 


You can test yourself as you indicated you have done extensive research. You can increase or decrease the input voltage and verify how the output is affected.  I would also suggest that use multifilar coils in primary alone. In secondary we need to use a single highly insulated thick wire. 

Except for the self runner part I have verified the other results.

Generally speaking Nature generates electricity in two ways. Electrostatic and Electromagnetic.  If we combine both of these methods probably it is possible to build self runners but I do not have the technical expertise to do all these things nor the funds. I am also exhausted. 

Regards

Ramaswami

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« Reply #4072 on: August 28, 2016, 02:10:42 PM »
Hello Ramaswami, I read and think also under the line !

Tiger and cat , Tami and Tamil Nadu (South India and Ceylon/Sri Lanka), about "old man" and charity and "I am also exhausted".


What you are  doing makes today part of the microphone/loudspeaker/amplifier/tuner/receiver/ex-LP to Cassette to Disc-Floppy to CD-to DVD to stick high fidelity technology : main interests compression and micronization


                             Information technology but also as entertainment tool


Yes,R&D costs much,100000 US$ for the first development stages a real number, industrial pieces using and engineers/Uni labs controlled.


If you have good results go to the TATA Group and/or the Reliance company(wind power) ,they can afford the needed research for industrial standartization and have technical and economical/comercial experience. (investments risc and losts included)


Electrification from the rural area can become accelerated by such  static e-/pm- generator disclosure !


Probably it is not a bad idea to apply an "utility model" of this device ! Before you publicate the concept to possible investors !


                       "federal/estate development agency"programs for rural poverty : existant ?

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« Reply #4073 on: August 28, 2016, 03:37:28 PM »
Sir..You need not read under the lines. That is not necessary.

Regarding the old man appearing before me it was an experience. Many know about it. From the time he appeared my knowledge has increased manifold but finances have come down. If I have the same kind of finances I would have completed this project long back.

Nothing of the sort you mentioned would work here. Things are extremely corrupt here. Only if you have right connections and bribe people to their satisfaction things can be done here. If you donot have that money then you are stuck where you are.

Here Government gives free Electricity to farmers..One of my clients tried to do a generator from wasted water energy and feed it back to the grid. He made an invention which you can see at www.tmptens.com I took it to the Government and ultimately learnt that if there are big profits than very high bribes need to be paid even to be considered.

You are correct in understanding that I have not disclosed much. Majority of JLNaudin site is restricted to be viewed in India. The Gegene generator info which is high frequency and cannot be used to run motors and can only light lamps and heaters was off view to the Indian public in National security interests. This will not sell here.

What Figuera found and what I did is nothing new. It is called simple magnetic amplifier boosting the output. Hundreds of videos are probably out in the interenet. The point is that I made significant improvements.

As an additional note you can get 4 Run capacitors of 220 volts and 200 to 1000 microfarads and put them in series and connect the module of such capacitors in parallel to the primary. You will see that the primary input drops. You can place another such module depending on the output voltage ( voltage of capacitors to be four times the voltage of the output or input) and you will see that the output increases. I do not know why it behaves like this.

Electricity generation is actually quite easy. You can make it any where in the world with four Earth points. I think self runners can be made to work safely but Patrick has warned me that it can attract lightning strikes and one inventor in US was hit by lightening when he did that. Is the info true or not is not known to me but I have avoided taking risks. Standardization and commercialization is difficult. I probably have spent more than $1,000,000 in western labour costs and effort. It is not easy for you people to do it and here no one is bothered.

I was so curious about the Hubbard Generator. Turns out that it is a simple machine. Once started it can continue as there are no moving parts and only one component that can wear out.

Not even Dr. Moray was able to commercialize his invention. What can I do?

Probably things will change..But who knows when they would. We have to wait and see.

Regards,

Ramaswami 

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« Reply #4074 on: August 28, 2016, 04:10:10 PM »
http://www.agragamiglobal.com/16.html
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« Reply #4075 on: August 28, 2016, 05:08:33 PM »
Compare this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdoOBOnntGo to Buforn patent  ;)

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« Reply #4076 on: August 28, 2016, 06:41:55 PM »
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20121220&CC=DE&NR=102011111692A1&KC=A1


Wind concentration/velocity amplification technology                  related            to coil winding concentration/velocity amplification technology


also:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=4&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140522&CC=DE&NR=102013010837A1&KC=A1



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The result according to the invention the new effect that a plurality of molecular electricity generators 30 includes a current collector 29 forming molecule, which is connected only via the flow opening 34 to the induction pipe 31st In molecular current collector 29 a rotational flow is produced. The molecular stream generators 30 direct the molecule flows 20 under pressure tangentially into the molecular current collector 29 a, so that from the excess pressure in the induction pipe 31 a rotational flow in the direction of outflow 38 is formed, in which the molecule currents 20 place over the flow opening 34 and form a molecule current coil 33rd A large number of molecular flow 20 results in a close-packed molecule current coil 33, so that the molecules are inductively aligned in the induction tube 31 to the outflow opening 38th The acting via the outflow opening 38 pressure of the atmosphere is then in the induction pipe 31 against the induced in all molecules moving force. Since the induction capacity of a molecule current coil 33 increases with decrease in their diameter, counter-currents can be safely ruled out by the induction pipe 31 by cross-sectional changes.


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can be supported by calculation done a reasonably accurate estimate of the extra speed that must have induced a molecular current coil 33 jet flow 35th This accurate calculation methods may be developed in the course of operating experience. It has been found that a drive power of a molecular stream generator of max. 200 W sufficient to form a molecular stream 20 with a circulation Γ = 11.0 m <2> / s. A molecule current coil 33 begins at the end of Durchströmrohrs 32 and ends at the outflow 38th First, the theory induced additional speed is determined in the middle of the molecular current coil 20, after which theoretically induced additional speed at the end. Middle and top speed are added and the sum divided by two. The result is practically occurring average speed of induced jet flow 35th For example, if 45 ° lead angle of the molecule currents 20, 0.40 m diameter, 1.0 m in height and eight molecule flows 20 a molecular current coil 33 given, then there is a drive capacity of 1.6 kW.


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From the time-related angular momentum concentrations results in the additional velocity vz induced jet flow 35 with 52.44 m / s and a beam power of 11.047 kW. The ratio of drive power of the molecular current generators 30 to the induced beam power 35 is 1: 6.9. The number of molecules navigate through 20 goes straight into the calculation. Doubling the number of 16 molecules navigate through 20 would require only the assembly of 16 molecular stream generators 30 and would be limited only by the diameter of the power module 28th At constant design parameters, the additional velocity vz changes to about 114 m / s and the power of the induced jet flow 35 to about 88.4 kW. The ratio of the drive power of the molecular stream generators 30 to 35 induced beam power is inexpensive. This performance improvement results from the fact that the circulations of the molecule currents 20 spatially produce a higher energy density in the molecule current coil 33 and the induced additional speed vz enters the third power in the power calculation.


all clear : through compression stages ;  question now : acceleration : conventionally second power/potential
but here calculation by ,recitating,     and the induced additional speed vz enters the third power in the power calculation.


analog: calculation  electro-magnetical transformer ,static or rotoric ?

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« Reply #4077 on: August 28, 2016, 08:09:33 PM »
Sir..

This is a very expensive project.  Each test required a team work.

I do not understand your comments on material as fuel or material consumption. Material remains intact.

If we provide current to make primary  electromagnets and from there we try to generate electricity from secondary most of the time we are biund to fail unless we reach core saturation.  On the other hand if we use partially magnetised permanent magnet core  in primary then we needcto give high voltage and lower amperage only to get very good output far in excess of input.  This is quite simple and straight forward. Using Ac input multifilar coils and a mild permanent magnetic core in primary we can easily achieve this. But none will accept this.

How we can make this in to a self runner is not clear to me. There are theories but I have not even tried ascthey are said to be very dangerous to conduct. I cannot take risks.

Somehow 15% of soft iron used by s has become permanent magnets.  Very mild but not clear to me how. Professor who lokked at my results wanted me to test each rod for magnetism and we took a long time and got about 75 kgm of soft iron rods of different magnetic strength. 

I cannot say why the same rod is stronger at one end and weaker at another end. Their magnetism is removed only by heating. Somehow magnetic remanance has formed in soft iron rods but not in all and even in the same rod it is varying in places.

I will be working on other principles as time and money permits and subject to availability of team.  Whatever I indicated can be verified easily.

In fact Mr. Cadman accepted that He tested the NS NS NS variation suggested by me and found it to be cop <1.
There is nothing surprising in it as he used single module and used current to make primary electromagnets.  If he has used higher voltage input and permanent magnets he eould have got bettee results.

I find my results and observations to be different from a lot of accepted info stated here and we have replicated again to verify our results. 


You can test yourself as you indicated you have done extensive research. You can increase or decrease the input voltage and verify how the output is affected.  I would also suggest that use multifilar coils in primary alone. In secondary we need to use a single highly insulated thick wire. 

Except for the self runner part I have verified the other results.

Generally speaking Nature generates electricity in two ways. Electrostatic and Electromagnetic.  If we combine both of these methods probably it is possible to build self runners but I do not have the technical expertise to do all these things nor the funds. I am also exhausted. 

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Ramaswami
I am yet.to.test the NSNS theory but I powered.my multifillar coil with 200VAC and hold a magnet above it and viola there start to be a Vibration of the underneath Electromagnet. I turned to the other.sides, the vibration sprang up too indicaticating that the Polarity is ever instantly reversing from N-S to.S-N on each sides and thus cormirms that N-S to S-N makes a Motionless Motor.

Ramaswami, you need no magnet to reduce the inputs current. All you need is High frequency, High Voltage. And Ferrite Core.


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« Reply #4078 on: August 31, 2016, 11:06:12 PM »
I saw this image fifteen years before for the first time :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=ES&NR=395792A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19721116&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


static generator with rotative commutator




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« Reply #4079 on: September 01, 2016, 12:15:52 AM »
I am yet.to.test the NSNS theory but I powered.my multifillar coil with 200VAC and hold a magnet above it and viola there start to be a Vibration of the underneath Electromagnet. I turned to the other.sides, the vibration sprang up too indicaticating that the Polarity is ever instantly reversing from N-S to.S-N on each sides and thus cormirms that N-S to S-N makes a Motionless Motor.

Ramaswami, you need no magnet to reduce the inputs current. All you need is High frequency, High Voltage. And Ferrite Core.

Do not get me.wrong, when I said N-S to S-N makes.motionleess Motor , I really mean The motionless  MoGen must be in attraction mode. Because it is only with.that that there can be really accelation of Electrons on the secondary copper wire windings