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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2058440 times)

Offline NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4020 on: August 21, 2016, 07:11:04 PM »
Sir..

What I observe is this. .

Here mains voltage is not constant.  It flutuates between 190 to 220 volts. In the same set up output of secondary is 30 volts when input voltage is 220 volts. Output of secondary drops to 18 volts when input voltage is 190 volts. We have 50 hz here.

Similarly if you increase the voltage to 1000 volts frpm 100 volts output voltage will shoot up. Secondary resistance being constant when secondary voltage is increased the amperage also raises. Amperage is based on secondary wire thickness and amazingly thickness of secondary insulation.  I understand thick wire producing higher amps but I do not understand the insulation part. Information on insulation is available in Daniel McFarland Cook patent and in Joesph Cater book. No where else.

Don Smith wrote double the voltage quadruple the output. This is true for secondary. 

I cannot write on specific numbers as I have not experimented andobserved but if you increase primary voltage secondary is bound to increase. If you are inclined to experiment please pm me.

Doug..Intensity of magnetic field and input voltage are the two things that matter from my
observations. Please explain in simple English for people like me to understand if you feel otherwise.

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Ramaswami


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4021 on: August 21, 2016, 08:15:33 PM »
 Lenz is more about the reaction in the induced circuit and not so much about creation of field used to cause the reaction which is being observed. There is a physical force which opposes the force used to cause induction. The conditions for which this effect can exist are limited.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4022 on: August 21, 2016, 08:20:58 PM »
This one is more detailed.

If a change in the magnetic field of current i1 induces another electric current, i2, the direction of i2 is opposite that of the change in i1. If these currents are in two coaxial circular conductors ℓ1 and ℓ2 respectively, and both are initially 0, then the currents i1 and i2 must counter-rotate. The opposing currents will repel each other as a result.
Lenz's law states that the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4023 on: August 21, 2016, 08:32:14 PM »
 The implication is simple. You cant get more then 100% out of 100% more often you get less if your deploying conversion. No work is done in the form of new work it is simply the same work.
  Not a theory.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4024 on: August 21, 2016, 08:38:22 PM »
If magnetic flux is in motion what can oppose it?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4025 on: August 21, 2016, 08:40:38 PM »
Constantino de Buforn Jacas publications:
https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patents-by-buforn-post-1908/
The Patrick Kelly version confirms cadmans #4030 version for the Figuera configuration concept.

Buforn original copy in PDF : https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patentes-buforn.pdf

the last applied Buforn patent application :
https://figueragenerator.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/patent-constantino-buforn-1914_num_57955.pdf

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« Reply #4026 on: August 21, 2016, 08:43:21 PM »
Im sure you have a couple magnets laying around.Take one of them and place it close to everything in your environment and find something that will push the magnet away.

 Im not trying to make you look foolish, your the one who insists on the down and dirty with hands on proof.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4027 on: August 21, 2016, 09:00:12 PM »

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« Reply #4028 on: August 21, 2016, 09:14:19 PM »
 Matu

 He should at least get his hands a little dirty. So there you have it.For all you belly aching you could have just used a couple a magnets to figure out there is third field created between the two active fields in motion. The two active fields are kept separate from the center field and only the force is used to move the central field. the only difference from a rotating generator to motionless and the difference between a generator and transformer. Transformers use one field which is consumed in the load through the secondary. All other improvements aside even a child could it.
  Generators have to be flashed leaving a week field locked in the cores once it starts to rotate the field breaks into two one moving and one not. Figurea or Baforn state there is no residual magnetism when not operating. When do two magnets cancel each other out? NN or SN.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4029 on: August 21, 2016, 09:19:08 PM »
Oh you dont see the permanent magnet dropping off to zero flux on ether side just the movement under the glass which is limited in distance.If he moved it far enough the effect would be lost.

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« Reply #4030 on: August 21, 2016, 09:30:33 PM »
No..I understand that part of Lenz law is applicable to a single primary single secondary situation.  It is not exactly the case when other variables are present. 

Take the example of magnetic amplifiers impacting a transformer. There are videos online to show the effect.  Lenz law effect is neutralise here. Why.

Similarly if you put two primaries to focus their strength in the center and oppose each other what happens the middle section is enormously increased in field strength. Thus is called additive flux if I understand correctly.

Wikipedia calls it conservation of momentum as the action between an electrin and a proton. Here the flux cannot oppose.  It has to add.

Secondly what I observed has been explained to me as amperage coming in from the earth battery where the reaction was increased manifold.  Patrick has taught me that Figuera device is an asymmetrical transformer while Lenz law is applicable to symmetrical transformers.

Notwithstanding theory we have observed many times 104 to 116.% output when we wind secondary on both sides of primary but we have ignored it as meter error.  It is only when we had very high readings and after the Electrician passd away and I had chest pain I posted the info.

Please explain how Lenz law can be explained when you introduce magnetic amplifiers. You are the first to introduce this concept anyway here.

When proper geometrical shapes are used identical poles opposing each other eill cause an induced current to flow in properly placed secondary coils. Both the primaries in that instant are repelling each other. The output should be without Lenz. Again we have two primaries here.

What you applies to what is normal einding patterns normally used.

I also know how the magnetic drag can be reduced in a rotating device and consumption of current reduced. But I haven't tested them for generation as they are very small units.

LancaIV. . Sir how are you able to modify your posts after my reply. Once sime reply is posted I cannot modify my posts. Amazing.

Any way with due respect the device is very simple. There is a missing component in the patent and no one has focused on it. I think the information overload has prevented people from taking action and observing things.

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Ramaswami


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4031 on: August 21, 2016, 09:48:19 PM »
Oh..This is the difference between transformers and generator. .well. Doug I used soft iron rods and weak residual magnetism is present in about 15% of the rods. They are very weak though.

You can say impurities are the reason.

Can you point out the specific part of the patent thatvsays no residual magnetism is present.

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Ramaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4032 on: August 21, 2016, 10:05:58 PM »
The above calculation is only an approximate calculation, in the small losses, such as copper losses are not taken into account in the armature of the electrical equipment, energy losses for rotating the inertia around the machine with the required angular velocity and the like. The bill is intended to show that a large amount of energy can be obtained by only a fraction of the output power, but not some form of external energy is consumed.

angular velocity ? a trial : http://milesmathis.com/angle.html
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"......how are you able to modify your posts.."
Ramaswami,this function is to moderate myself ! ;) After teste-phase you will get this ability,too !

Sincerely

Offline hanon

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4033 on: August 21, 2016, 11:23:12 PM »
This is from a 2012 version of Patrick Kelly ebook, chapter 3, about Richard Willis generator and a simplified version done from a user called silverhealtheu.

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The input power supply is fed to an electromagnet but is converted into a pulsed supply by the use of an interrupter switch which may be mechanical or electronic. As can be seen, the arrangement is particularly simple although it is an unusual configuration with the electromagnet core touching one of the permanent magnets and not the other. The magnet and electromagnet poles are important, with the permanent magnet North poles pointing towards the electromagnet and when the electromagnet is powered up, it’s South pole is towards the North pole of the permanent magnet which it is touching. This means that when the electromagnet is powered up, it’s magnetic field strengthens the magnetic field of that magnet.

There is a one-centimetre gap at the other end of the electromagnet and it’s North pole opposes the North pole of the second permanent magnet. With this arrangement, each electromagnet pulse has a major magnetic effect on the area between the two permanent magnets

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Silverhealtheu.   One of the EVGRAY yahoo forum members whose ID is ‘silverhealtheu’ has described a simple device which appears to be not unlike the Richard Willis generator above.

The device consists of an iron bar one inch (25 mm) in diameter and one foot (300 mm) long. At one end, there is a stack of five neodymium magnets and at the opposite end, a single neodymium magnet. At the end with the five magnets, there is a coil of wire which is strongly pulsed by a drive circuit. Down the length of the bar, a series of pick-up coils are positioned. Each of these coils picks up the same level of power that is fed to the pulsing coil and the combined output is said to exceed the input power.

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Look for the similarities with Figuera...




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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4034 on: August 22, 2016, 08:40:25 AM »
fyi

silverhealtheu = bolt on this forum