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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1574804 times)

Offline hanon

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #285 on: September 23, 2013, 11:51:47 PM »

Hi all,
This is a post to correct some errors in the circuit that I posted in post #106 in the 15th of May. Please see the attached file with the correct circuit to implement two unphased signals as defined in the 1908 Figuera´s patent.
 
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Hi all,

I have been testing the circuit disclosed in post #185 and previously in post #106 to create the two unphased signal required in the 1908 patent. I have found a mistake because pin No. 3 in the second CD4017 counter must not be used. Therefore this post correct post No. 185 and 106. I attach this file in pdf format and in jpg format.

Regards and good luck to all replicators!!

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #286 on: September 24, 2013, 12:09:30 AM »
Ariovaldo,


I wanted to ask you about the air gaps. Are you providing air gaps to the iron core of the 25KVA transformer? If you do not provide the air gaps, there will be cross talking between the two primary coils. In other words, the magnetic filed of a primary coil will reach the other primary coil moving through the secondary coil completely, and as a result, there will no be induced voltage in the secondary coil.


Thanks,
Bajac

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #287 on: September 24, 2013, 03:07:06 AM »
Ariovaldo,


I wanted to ask you about the air gaps. Are you providing air gaps to the iron core of the 25KVA transformer? If you do not provide the air gaps, there will be cross talking between the two primary coils. In other words, the magnetic filed of a primary coil will reach the other primary coil moving through the secondary coil completely, and as a result, there will no be induced voltage in the secondary coil.


Thanks,
Bajac
The 25 kva transformer is just to play. My intention is to build 6 small transformers with very smal air gap, to avoid the " normal" transformer  function...
I will sketch to show you..
Cheers

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #287 on: September 24, 2013, 03:07:06 AM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #288 on: September 24, 2013, 07:20:22 AM »
Hi
@Hanon... maybe you interested in using my scheme, I added one more step, and a correction circuit of the peak of the waveform, (R4) when going through step 1 and step 9 giving the space of two steps as in the original patent from 1908 to soften the waveform... disregard the part they are only transistor to generate the waveform for my setup.

And thanks again for everything!!!

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« Reply #289 on: September 24, 2013, 04:11:44 PM »
Hi
@Hanon... maybe you interested in using my scheme, I added one more step, and a correction circuit of the peak of the waveform, (R4) when going through step 1 and step 9 giving the space of two steps as in the original patent from 1908 to soften the waveform... disregard the part they are only transistor to generate the waveform for my setup.

And thanks again for everything!!!


Good!!!! 8)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #290 on: September 24, 2013, 08:47:21 PM »
Hi
@Hanon... maybe you interested in using my scheme, I added one more step, and a correction circuit of the peak of the waveform, (R4) when going through step 1 and step 9 giving the space of two steps as in the original patent from 1908 to soften the waveform... disregard the part they are only transistor to generate the waveform for my setup.

And thanks again for everything!!!

Hi Schiko,
I have not studied in deep your circuit yet, but the circuit that I posted -which was originally created by Patrick Kelly (in his ebook Chapter 3) and I have just done some small corrections- do the same sequence as the original Figuera rotary commutator with contacts 1,2,3 ....8,9,10 ....15, 16...(as Figuera wheel). Therefore this circuit make the right switching including the steps in the first and last contact  because it makes a pulse in 8 and later in 9 and then in 16 and 1. Maybe your circuit is an improvement but Kelly´s circuit do exactly what it is described in the 1908 commutator. This circuit just follow the contacts in Figuera´s drawing with the cylinder

I will study in deep shortly . It is good to have more variations to test, but I would start with Kelly´s design and later I would test your proposal

Regards

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« Reply #291 on: September 25, 2013, 05:10:46 AM »
@Hanon
No problem my friend...  8)         just for the record, generate sine wave through the steps, much more steps better!  ;)

@ARIOVALDO
?????? Thank's  8)

@Bajac
You've built your H-bridge???  ;D

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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« Reply #292 on: September 25, 2013, 09:17:07 AM »
Hi all,
 
I attach here a patent about an overunity transformer filed by Carlos Subieta Garron (US3368141). If you read it you could see that he is looking for the same effect as the 1908 Figuera´s patent. Also I post two videos that you could find useful to understand the patent.
 
 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=orRvh4K8Qvc

www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8asKJNYJIY
 
Please post your comments about this patent
 
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« Reply #293 on: September 25, 2013, 06:35:50 PM »
 It is just amazing!
 
If you recall, I also published "Reinventing the Wheel Part 2 and Part 3" showing designs with Permanent Magnets. The device shown in figures 4, 5, and 6 of Carlos' patent are almost identical to one of my embodiments that I posted in those documents. In my document I called coil B22 as the secondary and coils B18 to B21 as the control coils. The only difference between Carlos' design and mine is that he uses air gaps. Of course, my device would have not been patentable because they are obvious with respect to the devices shown in Carlos's patent. Again, I did not used air gaps in my design because I thought (as the mainstream science) that air gaps would make my design less efficient. Now that I know the Figuera's devices, I can say that Carlos' apparatus should be more efficient. As Figuera, Carlos found a way for minimizing the effects of the Lenz's law by using air gaps.
 
No wonder why I called my papers "Re-inventing the Wheel". We just keep recycling the old technology because it is not well known.
 
Bajac
 

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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« Reply #294 on: September 25, 2013, 08:28:11 PM »
It is just amazing!
 
If you recall, I also published "Reinventing the Wheel Part 2 and Part 3" showing designs with Permanent Magnets. The device shown in figures 4, 5, and 6 of Carlos' patent are almost identical to one of my embodiments that I posted in those documents. In my document I called coil B22 as the secondary and coils B18 to B21 as the control coils. The only difference between Carlos' design and mine is that he uses air gaps. Of course, my device would have not been patentable because they are obvious with respect to the devices shown in Carlos's patent. Again, I did not used air gaps in my design because I thought (as the mainstream science) that air gaps would make my design less efficient. Now that I know the Figuera's devices, I can say that Carlos' apparatus should be more efficient. As Figuera, Carlos found a way for minimizing the effects of the Lenz's law by using air gaps.
 
No wonder why I called my papers "Re-inventing the Wheel". We just keep recycling the old technology because it is not well known.
 
Bajac

Hi bajac,

Time ago I saw another patent of a MEG based on air gaps but I can not find it again. If I get to find it I will post it here also. Carlos Subieta Garron literally writes in his patent US3368141: "The assembly will not work as an annular magnet, there should be a small air gap between the core member and the shoe poles" (please note the attached drawing with the air gap !!). Air gaps are used to "re-route" the magnetic field to avoid opposing the inducer coils, thus minimizing the Lenz effect over those coils.

All this agree with you theory. Also the lay-out is very similar to the one that you propouse for Figuera 1908 generator.  ;) . Some questions: Why do you think that this patent will be more efficient than Figuera generator?. Do you think that it is easier to build than Figuera´s device? (here it is only needed one AC input). Please can you elaborate your ideas a bit deeper?. Thanks for all your help!!

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« Reply #295 on: September 25, 2013, 08:31:45 PM »
@Hanon
Could you explain why you thought the similarity between two patents?  ???
I have not seen!  :-[

In my mind patent 1908 has three aspects
1 - Reluctance
2 - increased electromagnetic section
3 - symmetry between the tensions of the primary lagged 180 degrees

Simple as a generator!  8)

For me the problem is to find the best ratio between primary and secondary inductance because it directly affects the resonance frequency of the magnetic assembly where the phenomenon occurs.
 
LF, HF will work no matter it all depends on the coils  ;D

There is an advantage of electronic commutator, adjust the frequency to any type of coil.

If you'll work fixed at 60Hz prepare for the difficulties of tuning coils  ;)

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« Reply #296 on: September 25, 2013, 09:01:36 PM »
That makes sense and I do think we have something here. Air gap, very small one. Don't you guys think we can use dc coil instead permanent magnetic?

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« Reply #297 on: September 25, 2013, 11:33:12 PM »
That makes sense and I do think we have something here. Air gap, very small one. Don't you guys think we can use dc coil instead permanent magnetic?

Yes... air gap = reluctance

The machine of Mr. Figuera magneto is not necessary, in my case fumbled more than helped ...
If you observe the threshold of the negative peak of the sine wave never goes to zero volts, coils always a small current, adjust the threshold in your case is more difficult to increase or decrease the value of the resistors.
Find the right point helps the phenomenon I experienced this!  ;)

ps: when you arrive at the point of work, the cores will stay super magnetized!!!

abraço!

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« Reply #298 on: September 25, 2013, 11:46:54 PM »
Hanon,


I am sorry for the misunderstanding. I was referring to the performances between the device I disclosed and the device found in Carlos' patent.
I can only speculate that Carlos and I had the same reasoning, BECAUSE THE ENERGY MUST COME FROM A SOMEWHERE, A PERMANENT MAGNET WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE THE ENERGY SOURCE. However, Figuera and Tesla showed us that there are other more powerful energy sources that we just do not know about it. Figuera and Tesla taught us how to extract infinite amount of free energy from wires
Suppression or not, The truth is that these types of energy sources have been hidden from us for too long.


Regards,
Bajac

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« Reply #299 on: September 26, 2013, 12:14:29 AM »
@bajac

Bajac you did not answer if you have finished your H-bridge???
So I am waiting for your tests.

I do not have large coils to test!

cheers!

 

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