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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1636431 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #270 on: September 20, 2013, 04:31:58 AM »
Hi all,

I have to say that I am very happy to see the enthusiasm and effort shown by the members of this forum about Figuera's devices. Figuera's technology is free and it is here for the taking.

First of all, I apologize for not being able to provide the detailed description in a single document of the device that I am building. I have been really busy with other affairs that do not allow to spend time on this project. However, all information about Figuera's technology has been disclosed in this thread.

The main components are the iron cores and the windings. For example, the key components of the 1908 device are the electromagnets. Once you build the electromagnets, you only need two 90-degree shifted full wave rectified voltages. It does not matter how these input voltages are generated! If you do not know how to build the electronic circuits, you can use the commutated switch and the power resistors shown in the original patent. For the size of the device shown in this thread, it is recommended that the power resistors have a minimum rating of 50W and a maximum of 10 ohms. THESE RESISTORS GET REALLY HOT! That is why Figuera showed wire wound resistor type. When Figuera ran his tests, I can imaging these resistors getting red hot similar to wired heaters. The use of these resistors is the least efficient option. The resistors dissipate relatively high energy.

A better option for generating the input voltages mentioned above is to use a motor-generator. The generator should be able to provide two sinusoidal voltages shifted 90 degrees. Then, each of these generator AC voltages can be applied two a full-wave rectifier diodes.

If the iron core is big enough to house the coils, you can use about any iron core that you feel comfortable working with. The cross section of the iron core that I used is about 1 inch width and 3/4" depth.

I have also recommended to build the 'N' and 'S' electromagnets with no less than 300 turns with a taps, let's say 200T, 300T, and so on. If you can do 400T, it is even better. The minimum gauge size for these primaries coils should be #18 AWG.

I also recommended that the wire of 'y' secondary coils should have a minimum gauge of #14 AWG. Minimum number of turns should be 200T. The use of #14 AWG wire for the secondary will allow for the connections of heavier loads.

The other important design criterion to keep in mind is to minimize the air gaps. If you refer to the photos I posted a while ago, you will notice that the air gaps consist of a paper thin insulator.

The above recommendations are based on my own experience with this device. If you follow them, you will have a device with good power output during testing.

With respect to the 1902 patent, the primary coils should have a lot of turns. For testing purposes, I would use no less than 500 turns of #20 or #22 AWG for each of the primary coils 'a' and 'b'. Because the secondary must travel through the air gaps, the air gaps shown in the 1902 patent are considerably larger than the air gaps of the 1902 patent, and therefore, the magnetic reluctance of the of the iron core is much higher for the 1902 device. The latter implies that to create a considerable magnetic flux in the 1902 device, you will need a very high A-T (Ampere-Turns). And, that is why Mr. Figuera furnished the air gaps of the 1902 device with primary coils ‘a’ and ‘b’ located on both sides of the air gaps.

Thanks again.
Bajac
Sorry if I didn't do my homework, but I have some questions: the iron core: is it laminated? When you say " 2 times 90 degrees voltage" what exactly you mean? I' m building one oscilator using the patent principle. This device will generate a complete ac sequence.
Thanks e sorry about the dumb questions.

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« Reply #271 on: September 20, 2013, 01:54:55 PM »
ariovaldo,
Based on your questions, I have to assumed that you have not read the paper that originated this thread explaining the operations of the 1908 and 1902 devices. For the 1908 device, please, use the latest revision posted on this thread. I highly recommend you to read these papers and whatever was posted in this thread before building your device. There are a lot of usefull information.
My understanding is that oscillators devices are usually used for signal (very low power) applications. The input power for the Figuera's devices is relatively high. For instance, the 1908 device that I built using the power resistors required an input power of about 60 Watts. When I tested it without the resistors, the input power was about 15W. And, I am referring to the device with one set of coils only (not seven as shown in the 1908 patent) for which I posted few photos. Therefore, you need to make sure that whatever oscillator you are using is capable of handling that kind of power.
Thanks,
Bajac

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« Reply #272 on: September 20, 2013, 02:17:30 PM »
Some pictures from the electromechanic "inverter" that I'm building to test the patent.
The most difficult part will be the transformer.
Later on I will post the schematic and the resistors values that I will use to test this in one 3 phases 25 kVA transformer.
I'm not expecting any "OU". I want to learn and understand the circuit behavior ( I will take some scope shots)


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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« Reply #273 on: September 20, 2013, 02:24:06 PM »
ariovaldo,
Based on your questions, I have to assumed that you have not read the paper that originated this thread explaining the operations of the 1908 and 1902 devices. For the 1908 device, please, use the latest revision posted on this thread. I highly recommend you to read these papers and whatever was posted in this thread before building your device. There are a lot of usefull information.
My understanding is that oscillators devices are usually used for signal (very low power) applications. The input power for the Figuera's devices is relatively high. For instance, the 1908 device that I built using the power resistors required an input power of about 60 Watts. When I tested it without the resistors, the input power was about 15W. And, I am referring to the device with one set of coils only (not seven as shown in the 1908 patent) for which I posted few photos. Therefore, you need to make sure that whatever oscillator you are using is capable of handling that kind of power.
Thanks,
Bajac


Thanks.
The oscillator will be able to hand the power. The resistors will have the following values



Ohms     Volts
8       =  1
6.6    =  3.6
3.3    =  7.2
2.2    = 10.8
1.65  =14.4
1.32  = 18
1.1    = 21.6
0       = 24



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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #274 on: September 20, 2013, 06:27:56 PM »
Ariovaldo,
WOW! That is not an oscillator but a heavy duty commutated switch. You got some skills!
I wanted to ask you, how did you get the values shown on the voltage column?
Going back to the iron core application, Mr. Figuera stated in his 1908 patent that it can be of a low quality soft iron type. He also stated that a solid piece (not laminated) of iron can be used. His statement can be justified by the use of air gaps in the device. Because the air gaps have much higher reluctance than any low quality iron core, there is no noticeable difference in performance when using, whether high quality laminated Silicone steel sheets or low cost soft iron bars.
Thanks,
Bajac
 

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #275 on: September 20, 2013, 07:09:43 PM »
hanon:
thanks, I apologize, my PS is from a wifi modem, rated at 12V-1.2A the figure I posted (200mA) is a measure at the input, loaded.
I also tested with a resistor made with the metallic spiral of a hair dryer, min.3 ohm, and so on.
Bajac is right, is should be the most inefficient atempt as it got very hot, which means loses all over !!
In the other hand, I don´t know how to pulse the inductor not having Mr Lenz at the collapse, as the idea of this patent is based in a variable DC current, not falling anytime to 0 volts.

Anyway the learning process keeps on going !

Ariovaldo if just the commutator is that size, I imagine you want to power your own car factory no ? ;D ;D

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #276 on: September 20, 2013, 07:37:52 PM »
Ariovaldo,
WOW! That is not an oscillator but a heavy duty commutated switch. You got some skills!
I wanted to ask you, how did you get the values shown on the voltage column?
Going back to the iron core application, Mr. Figuera stated in his 1908 patent that it can be of a low quality soft iron type. He also stated that a solid piece (not laminated) of iron can be used. His statement can be justified by the use of air gaps in the device. Because the air gaps have much higher reluctance than any low quality iron core, there is no noticeable difference in performance when using, whether high quality laminated Silicone steel sheets or low cost soft iron bars.
Thanks,
Bajac
My first intention with this device is to do a trial using a 3 phase transformer that I have, using Gruamge schematics. Having the transformer in my hands, I simulated the voltage drop using 12 volts battery and nichcrome 16 gauge  wire.
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« Reply #277 on: September 20, 2013, 10:58:32 PM »
My first intention with this device is to do a trial using a 3 phase transformer that I have, using Gruamge schematics. Having the transformer in my hands, I simulated the voltage drop using 12 volts battery and nichcrome 16 gauge  wire.
Check out.


I just built the resistors. Next week probably I will test with the transformer connected.
This weekend I will finish the dc motor drive.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #278 on: September 20, 2013, 11:59:32 PM »
hanon:
thanks, I apologize, my PS is from a wifi modem, rated at 12V-1.2A the figure I posted (200mA) is a measure at the input, loaded.
I also tested with a resistor made with the metallic spiral of a hair dryer, min.3 ohm, and so on.
Bajac is right, is should be the most inefficient atempt as it got very hot, which means loses all over !!
In the other hand, I don´t know how to pulse the inductor not having Mr Lenz at the collapse, as the idea of this patent is based in a variable DC current, not falling anytime to 0 volts.

Anyway the learning process keeps on going !

Ariovaldo if just the commutator is that size, I imagine you want to power your own car factory no ? ;D ;D

regards
Alvaro
There you go my friend....
That is because you didn't see my Tesla coil... I was forbidden by the city to test it. I heard people saying: -"I don't know, but my sprinkler system start tor works funny, change the time for itself. ....


Ari

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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« Reply #279 on: September 21, 2013, 11:06:02 PM »
Ariovaldo,

I want to congratulate you for the effort you put on the construction details. You do a professional job!

I would not like you to be disappointed and discouraged from building the device, but it takes a lot of effort to work with such a large core, and then, not getting the results that you might expect.

I want to persuade you to get away from dealing with single large set of coils such as the 25KVA one shown in the photo. The success for building Figuera’s devices does not consist in making a single set of large electromagnets but connecting together multiple smaller sets of coils as shown in the 1908 patent. Even though the 1902 patent shows only a single set of coils, I truly believe that to get an operating voltage such as 120Vac, the secondary coils of several sets of the transformers (as shown in the patent) should be cascaded (or connected in series).

I have stated before that the design criteria for building the Figuera’s devices are different from the ones used for building today’s standard transformers. The most important feature of the Figuera’s 1902 and 1908 devices is the use of the air gaps. The definition of air gap is a discontinuity in the iron core path (note that I am not referring to the gaps of the windows occupied by the wire turns around the core). The air gaps are not allowed in the construction of standard transformers and these gaps change the rule of the game for the Figuera’s devices. The air gaps are the key feature to manipulate the induced magnetic fields (field of the secondary coils) in such a way as to make useless the typical current ratio formula of the standard transformers. Because the current of the secondary coils (load current) is not reflected back to the primary coils, the small power supplied to the primary coils is relatively constant even under large load currents. The implication of the above is that the iron core of a standard 1KVA transformer can generate more than 25KVA of power when used in the Figuera’s apparatus. Once the secondary voltage is established in the Figuera’s devices, the main limiting factor of the output power is the amount of current that the secondary wire can handle. That is the reason why the Figuera’s apparatus is known as his INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE.

The above sounds like a heresy but it is true! Because standard transformers do not have air gaps, the reluctance of the core magnetic circuit is very low and a relatively low ampere-turn (magneto-motive force) can generate large quantities of magnetic flux lines, which can force the core to reach magnetic saturation easily. As a matter of fact, the standard transformers are designed to work at the knee of the saturation curve where they are more efficient. That is the reason why an iron core used to build a 1KVA unit cannot be used to construct a 25KVA standard transformer. Because in standard transformers the ampere-turns of the primary coil increases with the power demand of the load, the cross sectional area of the iron core must be increased accordingly for the 25KVA unit. Otherwise, the 1KVA iron core will just saturate beyond the knee of the saturation curve and the increase of the primary ampere-turns will not necessarily translate in an increase of the magnetic flux through said core.

On the contrary, the air gaps present in the Figuera’s devices make them to operate at the very low part of the magnetic saturation curve. It is very unlikely that a 1KVA iron core used in a standard transformer will saturate even under a 25KVA load. Because the load is not reflected back to the primary coils, the ampere-turns of the primary coils do not substantially increase and stay constant.

The following is my recommendation:

Use an iron core with relatively small cross section, say not larger than 2 inch square and with gap windows large enough to accommodate the coils. The material can be laminated Silicone sheets or solid soft iron. You must be careful interconnecting the core sections when using solid soft iron materials. Do not add extraneous material between the sections such as welding. All the air gaps must be kept to a minimum. For the 1908 device, use a paper thin material to join the core sections. For the 1902 device, the dimension of the air gaps should be just big enough to fit the secondary turns. Because the air gaps of the 1902 device are larger than the gaps of the 1908 one, the primary coils of the 1902 device will require more turns.

Because of the air gaps, you will need a much higher ampere-turn for the primary coils just to create a small magnetic field. You can use wire gauges such as #18 or #20 AWG for building the primary coils. Even though I have recommended a minimum of 300 turns, do as many turns as you can for the first set. For example, if you can do 600 turns, incorporate middle taps for 300, 400, and 500 turns. For the secondary use no less than 200 turns of #14 AWG. Recall that you do not want to use a thin wire for the secondary because the power output for this device is limited by the gauge of the secondary coil. For the first set I would recommend to do no less than 350 turns for the secondary with middle taps at 200 and 300 turns. The flexibility of choosing primary and secondary taps when performing the testing will be invaluable.

Build and test one set of coils first! Once you know the coil taps that produces the best performance for the given core, you can proceed for the construction of the remaining sets. For example, if the test of the first set indicates that the best performance corresponds to taps that make the secondary coil generates 20Vac, then; you know that five more sets are needed to make a unit with a rating of 120Vac.
I hope the above description can guide you in the right direction.

Thanks and good luck!
Bajac
« Last Edit: September 22, 2013, 08:13:56 AM by bajac »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #280 on: September 21, 2013, 11:40:14 PM »
Ariovaldo,
I want to congratulate you for the effort you put on the construction details. You do a professional job!
I would not like you to be disappointed and discouraged from building the device, but it takes a lot of effort to work with such a large core, and then, not getting the results that you might expect.
I want to persuade you to get away from dealing with single large set of coils such as the 25KVA one shown in the photo. The success for building Figuera’s devices does not consist in making a single set of large electromagnets but connecting together multiple smaller sets of coils as shown in the 1908 patent. Even though the 1902 patent shows only a single set of coils, I truly believe that to get an operating voltage such as 120Vac, the secondary coils of several sets of the transformers shown in the patent should be cascaded (or connected in series).
I have stated before that the design criteria for building the Figuera’s devices are different from the ones used for building today’s standard transformers. The most important feature of the Figuera’s 1902 and 1908 devices is the use of the air gaps. The definition of air gap is a discontinuity in the iron core path (note that I am not referring to the gaps of the windows occupied by the wire turns around the core). The air gaps are not allowed in the construction of standard transformers and these gaps change the rule of the game for the Figuera’s devices. The air gaps are the key feature to manipulate the induced magnetic fields (field of the secondary coils) in such a way as to make useless the typical current ratio formula of the standard transformers. Because the current of the secondary coils (load current) is not reflected back to the primary coils, the small power supplied to the primary coils is relatively constant even under large load currents. The implication of the above is that the iron core of a standard 1KVA transformer can generate more than 25KVA of power when used in the Figuera’s apparatus. Once the secondary voltage is established in the Figuera’s devices, the main limiting factor of the output power is the amount of current that the secondary wire can handle. That is the reason why the Figuera’s apparatus is known as his INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE.
The above sounds like a heresy but it is true! Because standard transformers do not have air gaps, the reluctance of the core magnetic circuit is very low and a relatively low ampere-turn (magneto-motive force) can generate large magnetic flux lines, which can reach magnetic saturation easily. As a matter of fact, the standard transformers are designed to work at the knee of the saturation curve where they are more efficient. That is the reason why an iron core used to build a 1KVA unit cannot be used to construct a 25KVA standard transformer. Because in standard transformers the ampere-turns of the primary coil increases with the power demand of the load, the cross sectional area of the iron core must be increased accordingly for the 25KVA unit. Otherwise, the 1KVA iron core will just saturate beyond the knee of the saturation curve and the increase of the primary ampere-turns will not necessarily translate in an increase of the magnetic flux through said core.
On the contrary, the air gaps present in the Figuera’s devices make them to operate at the very low part of the magnetic saturation curve. It is very unlikely that even a 1KVA iron core used in a standard transformer will saturate even under a 25KVA load. Because the load is not reflected back to the primary coils, the ampere-turns of the primary coils do not substantially increase and stay constant.
The following is my recommendation:
Use an iron core with relatively small cross section, say not larger than 2 inch square and with gap windows large enough to accomodate the coils. The material can be laminated Silicone sheets or solid soft iron. You must be careful interconnecting the core sections when using solid soft iron materials. Do not add extraneous material between the sections such as welding. All the air gaps must be kept to a minimum. For the 1908 device, use a paper thin material to join the core sections. For the 1902 device, the dimension of the air gaps should be just big enough to fit the secondary turns. Because the air gaps of the 1902 device are larger than the gaps of the 1908 one, the primary coils of the 1902 device will require more turns.
Because of the air gaps, you will need a much higher ampere-turn for the primary coils just to create a small magnetic field. You can use wire gages such as #18 or #20 AWG for building the primary coils. Even though I have recommended a minimum of 300 turns, do as many turns as you can for the first set. For example, if you can do 600 turns, incorporate middle taps for 300, 400, and 500 turns. For the secondary use no less than 200 turns of #14 AWG. Recall that you do not want to use a thin wire for the secondary because the power output for this device is limited by the gauge of the secondary coil. For the first set I would recommend to do no less than 350 turns for the secondary with middle taps at 200 and 300 turns. The flexibility of choosing primary and secondary taps when performing the testing will be invaluable.
Build and test one set of coils first! Once you know the coil taps that produces the best performance for the given core, you can proceed for the construction of the remaining sets. For example, if the test of the first set indicates that the best performance corresponds to taps that make the secondary coil generates 20Vac, then; you know that five more sets are needed to make a unit with a rating of 120Vac.
I hope the above description can guide you in the right direction.
Thanks and good luck!
Bajac
Thank you Bajac.
To say the true, I started to build that for funny and now I' m thinking to go ahead and test the coils. I will use a solid steel core, since a laminate isn't so ease to find. There is a option to use old transformers but I will think about.
Yesterday  I watch a movie made by a friend of mine that was in Imperatriz,  Brazil in a fair. He saw the Barbosa device working. He said the device was all the time powering an air conditioner, a 20 hp motor and some lights. He didn't  see any secondary set of wires other than one to feed the system. The amplification factor was more than 10. Also, he said the one of 10 kVA, weigh not more tan 20 pounds. I think he is using a solid state version of Figueras device.
Thank for the tips and I will keeping posting.

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« Reply #281 on: September 23, 2013, 01:59:20 AM »
I guess nonsense waste time and resources on rotary switches, best would be to invest in a good power inverter circuit where you could control multiple parameters of the input current of the magnetic assembly ...
I could see that the frequency and symmetry of the wave is very important, so being able to control these parameters is very important!
I still can not say I got over-unity, only managed an excellent system performance around + / - 85%, but I can get over-unity.
The idea is you build the magnet assembly and vary the parameters of the signal up to the point where things happen!
If you have a UPS or two PC sources in scrap, already has 80% of the circuit, get to work ...
In my tests I used (structural iron cores), ferrite (core old flay-back) and laminated iron transformer old ... and all work perfectly, but the working point changes depending on the type of core, adjusting the frequency and other parameters and everything goes back to normal ...
With four magnetic assemblies I got 2 light bulbs 12V 5W consuming 1.2A to the source (each lamp consumes about 0.55 A at 12V) ... no load I hit + / - 70V.

My sincere thanks to Bajac, Hanon and to everyone who made ​​it possible for these ideas!

Note 1: I chose to work with higher frequencies to be cheaper to make the coils and magnetic assemblies, but nothing prevents the circuit operate at low frequencies with higher voltages and currents, all depends on the power stage. If working with loads of 12V,,, use a voltage regulator to protect loads! then do not say you were not warned ...

Note 2: I used 4 schottky diodes full wave rectifier and filter 10.000uF/100V before the load ... and one single regulator 12V 3A!
Caution! not touch the wires after the power stage with the system on, the shock is big ... ;-)

Note 3: I apologize for not dominate the language, I will soon post more information pages with photos, diagrams and tests in my native language Overunity session in Brazil, not to depend more insane translator that ...
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Acho besteira desperdiçar tempo e recursos em comutadores rotativos, melhor seria investir num bom circuito inversor de potência onde você poderia controlar vários parametros da corrente de entrada do conjunto magnético...
Eu pude notar que a frequência e a simetria da onda é muito importante, então poder controlar esses parametros é muito importante!
Eu ainda não posso dizer que consegui over-unity, só consegui um excelente rendimento do sistema em torno de +/- 85%, mas acho ser possível conseguir over-unity.
A ideia é você construir o conjunto magnético e variar os parametros do sinal até atingir o ponto onde as coisas acontecem!
Se você tem um no-break ou duas PC fontes na sucata, já tem 80% do circuito, mãos a obra...
Em meus testes usei (núcleos de ferro estrutural),,, ferrite ( núcleos velhos de flay-back) e ferro laminado de transformadores velhos... e todos funcionam perfeitamente, mas o ponto de trabalho muda dependendo do tipo de núcleo, ajuste a frequência e outros parâmetros e tudo volta ao normal...
Com 4 conjuntos magnéticos eu consegui acender 2 lâmpadas de 12V 5W   consumindo 1,2A da fonte ( cada lâmpada consome em torno de 0,55A em 12V)... sem carga eu atingi +/- 70V.

Meus sinceros agradecimentos a Bajac, Hanon e a todos que tornaram possível essas ideias!!!

Nota-1: eu optei por trabalhar com frequências mais altas por ser mais econômico fazer as bobinas e os conjuntos magnéticos, mas nada impede  que o circuito funcione em baixas frequências com tensões e correntes maiores, tudo depende da etapa de potência. Se for trabalhar com cargas de 12V,,, use um regulador de tensão para proteger as cargas! depois não diga que não avisei...

Nota 2: usei 4 diodos schottky retificador de onda completa e filtro de 10.000uF/100V antes da carga... e um regulador simples 12V 3A!
Cuidado! nao toque nos fios depois do estagio de potência com o sistema ligado, o choque é grande... ;-)

Nota 3: peço desculpas por não dominar o idioma, em breve irei postar mais infos com fotos , esquemas e testes em minha linguagem nativa em Overunity sessão Brasil, para não depender mais desse tradutor maluco...



Offline ariovaldo

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #282 on: September 23, 2013, 02:34:54 PM »
Some more update about the rotary commutator device. I'm not worry if this system will work or not. To me this is more than " free energy". This is a therapy, a hobby.
About the transformer I will use some tips that Bajac gave me, trying different versions, using 6 and 12 set of 3 coils. After the test with the three phase transformer, I will change the resistors for the new set of coils.


Cheers

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #283 on: September 23, 2013, 03:11:11 PM »
Ariovaldo: I like it!!
Re: Barbosa
I have some questions.
Do you know how long the devices were on?
How much was the load?
Was the device continuously plugged into the mains?


I do not say this lightly: I suspect that Barbosa is an investment fraud because 2 of the other patents are 1 Kapanadze and 2 Bedini's 1984 generator without the 110 degree make-break switch.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #284 on: September 23, 2013, 03:44:09 PM »
Ariovaldo,

I want to congratulate you for the effort...

..... Because standard transformers do not have air gaps, the reluctance of the core magnetic circuit is very low and a relatively low ampere-turn (magneto-motive force) can ......

Bajac

It looks as though some excellent progress is being made here. You say that standard transformers do not have air-gaps, however normally they are built up of laminations.  Although these are primarly to stop eddy currents, do not the small gaps between the laninations, caused by the coating of varnish not add in small air-gap?

Kind regards

John


 

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