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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1594443 times)

Offline iflewmyown

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The patents are complete as possible. I do not believe the operating principle was known to the inventor.
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The patents are complete as possible. I do not believe the operating principle was known to the inventor.
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Oops! That can be true.

Offline hanon

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Qwert, The original article about Figuera appeared in January 2011 issue of a History Magazine (Hisotria de Iberia Vieja), as you should have read. This article was done by a historian who researched the life of Clemente Figuera. I met him and I have helped him to get the rest of the patents from the Patent Office Archive and traslate them and his webpage into english in May 2013. This article appeared in an History monthly magazine and thus why he decided to say that no more energy could be generated than used. He did it at first not to show a overunity device but to show the life of this particular character. The rest of the webpage shows that Clemente Figuera was a respected engineer and he knew perfectly what he had between his hands. He powered his own house (lighting) as well as a 20 HP motor with his generator. He didn´t decided to realese the news about his generator, but it was as consequence of people who saw his house and soon the reporter were interested in his generator. His idea was to keep it secret until filing the patent , but the news was spread 5 months before filing the patents. I know all of this because I have some more newspaper clippings where I can guest that story, mainly they are just historic references to Figuera while the only source of technical info are his patents. There are many proofs, maybe there are much more proofs than in many others OU devices. I am not going to convince you. I have told all this for people who are really interested in Mr. Figuera´s invention. I am moving forward. Bye


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Offline Qwert

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...There are many proofs, maybe there are much more proofs than in many others OU devices. I am not going to convince you. I have told all this for people who are really interested in Mr. Figuera´s invention. I am moving forward. Bye



I'm also not going to convince anybody; my conclusions are only based on info available on internet. Maybe there are more proofs but for today, there are no more proofs. My quote at one of the previous posts (reply #164) comes from a link you, (hanon) provided. Don't hesitate to provide better source if you have such.

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hanon


Once again I want to say : THANK YOU for Your GREAT WORK !
And to all who investigated time and resources to re-vive Clemente Figuera history . Looks like there is real hope we recreate all free energy lost devices, because that was my small dream to dig out all info about Figuera life and story and you and author of original Spanish article fullfilled that dream ....It was almost like discovery of ancient pharaon tomb, really so deep in darkness and distance from our today life was forgotten Mr Clemente Figuera.

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hanon


Once again I want to say : THANK YOU for Your GREAT WORK !
And to all who investigated time and resources to re-vive Clemente Figuera history . [...]


I second that. Thanks a lot, hanon !


Offline hanon

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Hi all,

Here I have traslated some letters that Clemente Figuera sent in 1902 to the newspapers. You can follow cronologically the sequence of events prior to the filing of the 4 patents in September 1902. Before filing the patents there are some references in the newspaper (in april- may - june 1902) . Later he filed the patents  in the 20th of september 1902, and, four days later he signed the sale of the patents to an international banker union. Later... all is silence ... until the 1908 patent few days before his death.

It is curious to note that Mr. Figuera said many times that the principle os his invention is very simple.

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Offline hanon

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Hi,
 
For people who may read spanish texts, you can find many more newspapers clippings about Clemente Figuera. I have just translated some of them, but spanish readers will enjoy for sure reading all those documents. --> search for Newspaper report II at the bottom side of the page.
 
http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258
 
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Offline Kator01

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Hello Hanon,

I watch this topic since 3 Days and one question might be of interest: What was the technique for building electromagnets at 1900 ? What kind of core-material was used ?
Why do I ask this seemingly trivial questions ? Reason : Remanence.
We have to check all paramters in order to get closer to a solution.

I found this here, it is in german but you can see all details: core is plain iron.. so we will have remance:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/LEHRMITTEL-Spulen-Magnet-ELEKTROMAGNET-Physik-EXPERIMENTE-Unterricht-Schule-/360488430954

I do not believe that Figuera was using stacked core-material

Second question to focus on  : did Figuera use U-shaped core-material so he  had both rows of electromagnets influencing each other if current was changed ?
The patent does not give an answer which means more effort to spend on experiments.

Last thought about the magnetic flux-density across the gap where the laod-coils are place within.
My impression is: the overall magnetic tension across the gap is not changing, only the density of the fieldlines exiting the frontside of each S and N- core changes. This would mean that the load-coil in between the two pole-faces would get a massage with changing flux-field-density moving with each step form left to right and back again. So in this way there will be generated a potential-difference between both terminal of the load-coil y with one exeption: if the partial-currents for S and N-coils are equal. If this is the case than this would only make sense with a longer load-coil in order to have this effect. This gives a clue of the probable physical dimension of the set-up.
In other words: a constant change of flux-field-density between right and left pole-face of the load-coil is created while the overall magnetic tension in the gap is constant thus reduced Lenz-action. Because of the slow reacting iron-material there is also a smoothing out sharp voltage-peaks caused by the discrete steps of the commutator-brush

Just some thoughts of mine.

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Kator01


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Offline hanon

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Hi Kator,

The only source of technical info about Figuera´s devices are his 5 patents. There it is clearly stated that the cores were composed of soft iron. I think that the idea was to has a composition which could react quickly to the changes in the magnetization. The aim was to create a changing magnetic field in the electromagnets to try to emulate a normal magnet that is spinning inside a generator (N,S,N,S,N,S,...)

In some newspapers is written that Figuera ask for some material to a german company. I think he was looking for very pure iron. The purer the iron the greater the magnetic permeability , therefore, the stronger the filed created  (check in this link the huge increase in the magnetic permeability:

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeabilidad_magn%C3%A9tica

The best source of technical details are his patents. You can find them in the webpage.

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I consider the air gaps the most important feature of the Figuera's devices. It is against the common sense used in today's electric machines. For example, the discontinuities of the iron cores represented by the air gaps is to be avoided at all cost in today's standard transformers. Nevertheless, the discontinuity of the air gaps is what makes Figuera's devices work. The air gaps must be minimum, but they must exist. These air gaps create a reluctance circuit that allows the magnetic flux to be manipulated with ease for the purpose of minimizing the effects of the Lenz's law.


The above statement implies that the quality of the iron material is not critical. The reluctance of the small air gaps is thousands of times larger than the reluctance of any low quality iron core. The latter is also the reason why the design criteria of the Figuera's apparatus is based around the air gaps.


No considerable amount of power can be obtained without the air gaps feature. If you don't believe me, ask Thane and the BiTT transformer.


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Offline Liberty

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I consider the air gaps the most important feature of the Figuera's devices. It is against the common sense used in today's electric machines. For example, the discontinuities of the iron cores represented by the air gaps is to be avoided at all cost in today's standard transformers. Nevertheless, the discontinuity of the air gaps is what makes Figuera's devices work. The air gaps must be minimum, but they must exist. These air gaps create a reluctance circuit that allows the magnetic flux to be manipulated with ease for the purpose of minimizing the effects of the Lenz's law.


The above statement implies that the quality of the iron material is not critical. The reluctance of the small air gaps is thousands of times larger than the reluctance of any low quality iron core. The latter is also the reason why the design criteria of the Figuera's apparatus is based around the air gaps.


No considerable amount of power can be obtained without the air gaps feature. If you don't believe me, ask Thane and the BiTT transformer.


Bajac

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Offline Doug1

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It's been non stop rain here for days which has put a real damper getting much done.So I spent time pulling apart a 10kw inverter that failed to see why before gutting it for parts. As I was examining the transformers all 16 of them I decided to take one totally apart. They are EDT-39's ,much to my surprise they'er not wound with wire they use copper tape windings.Vastly easier to wind or rewind. The tape fills the bobin width and turns are layered. A funny thing though they are wound a bit like the Figuera's device with two differences. They use a single core made from a split core,two E cores really..The coils are layed on top of each other. As if the first is a primary ,second the induced secondary, then another primary over that.The induced secondary is center tap while the primaries are not, just to be clear. Im pretty sure that is to do with it putting out ac and to increase the self inductance of the coil. The cores are made of very nice material ferrite. It would be very easy to cut the tape in thirds width and add an air gap but there is no complete discription of how the Figuera's device is wound or if he used center tap winding on the induced. Maybe someone can find out when the center tap idea came about in history. Such as who discovered it and when. I know the inverter tech works and allways wondered how those little transformers could handle such large currents now I know. They use copper tape not wire. The insulator is just a slightly wider piece of thin plastic sheet. The tape is not coated nor bonded to the plastic insulator.Copper tape is short only a couple of feet each winding,very easy to work with very fast.I never would have considered tape before this now I may never again use wire the labor difference is too great to overlook. It would very funny if an DC to AC inverter is only a couple of tweeks away from being the finish product. I imagine there will be more pissed off people then can be counted.

Offline Doug1

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I decided to take a closer look at how these transformers are connected to the cuircuit board becuase something just didnt look right in the solder on the board.Some of the pin holes apeared to to clean ,virgin. I kept placing one transformer back in it's place and realized two pins were missing ,cipped off.In fact the same two pins on each of the 16 transformers are  nipped off at the ends so it doesnt reach the holes on the board.The outer most winding is only connected to the board from one end of the winding but made to look like it is connected at both. It would be easy to miss unless you noticed the defect is the same on all of them. Thats pretty strange.

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I blieve in the quest of the true hearted explorers, and laugh at the non-believers. this that I do has been done for centuries. the only thing that needs to be overcome is the BIG BANKS, THE Government THAT HAS BEEN BOUGHt<NOW MY COMPUTER WILL NOT WORK RIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME>

 

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