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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1554632 times)

Offline forest

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Bajac pointed to the one most important aspect : all the interactions has to be assymetrical or lenz free : or in other words-  the currents in induced coils when loaded would not affect inducer coils. This is the essence for all if not every ou devices I saw (patents, not in reality ;-) )
I fully agree with all Bajac statements, however I'm not so good in all theory like Bajac.




@Bajac: maybe www.box.com ???

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Forest, I too believe the theories that Bajac explains, however when I build them with iron and copper they don't work.   :(
Garry


P.S.    I don't think Bajac is having such good luck either. :(

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I was very happy with the testing of my first 1908 device. I was able to verify that the effects of the Lenz's law can be mitigated. However, because I only had one set of coils (instead of seven) I did not try for overunity.


I want to say that I still have not tested the tower that I built because my workload has been unbelievable! But, I expect to run a set of tests, soon.
 

I am sorry to hear that some of you had no luck with the construction of the device. This is the place to help each other replicating Mr. Figuera's apparatus.


@iflewmyown: can you publish some pictures of your set up? Make sure the pictures provide good details of the construction. You can use the Micro mode function of the camera for better closeup photos. If we work together, I am sure we will see good results.


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Bajac,  My camera is sorry but here is one photo. I am glad your 1908 setup showed negation of lenz's law. I am not working at this time so I will continue with more tests tomorrow.
Garry

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@iflewmyown,
 
After reviewing your setup, I see the following issues with your setup; first, the center iron core should no have voids. It should be a solid uniform piece. Second, you need to make the gaps uniforms. The interior and exterior iron core pieces should be firmly attached. Third, I am not sure about using welding. You may be better off attaching the different parts with screws. Fourth, use rectangular interior iron cores. A round shape makes it more difficult to wind the Induced coil.
You can use laminated sheets to build the iron cores. For example, I have Silicone Steel sheets from an old 45KVA transformer. I can cut enough pieces with scissors to form the exterior and interior cores.
My recommendation to you is to start all over again. I keep saying not to cut corners when replicating the device. If you can afford it, make the drawings with dimensions and bring it to a machine shop for a good finished product.
 
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Offline hanon

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Hi all,
 
As bajac has his upload capacity full I have attached here his document about the interpretation of Figuera´s 1902 patent  (No. 30378 - Generator Figuera-Blasberg )
 
The attached file belongs to bajac. I am just uploading it.
 
Regards
 

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@iflewmyown,
 
After reviewing your setup, I see the following issues with your setup; first, the center iron core should no have voids. It should be a solid uniform piece. Second, you need to make the gaps uniforms. The interior and exterior iron core pieces should be firmly attached. Third, I am not sure about using welding. You may be better off attaching the different parts with screws. Fourth, use rectangular interior iron cores. A round shape makes it more difficult to wind the Induced coil.
You can use laminated sheets to build the iron cores. For example, I have Silicone Steel sheets from an old 45KVA transformer. I can cut enough pieces with scissors to form the exterior and interior cores.
My recommendation to you is to start all over again. I keep saying not to cut corners when replicating the device. If you can afford it, make the drawings with dimensions and bring it to a machine shop for a good finished product.
 
Bajac


Bajac, thanks for your comments. The center core has more iron mass than the coil cores and should not be an impediment to the flux.
If you look at the second picture you see that the gaps are adjustable with the spacers behind the exterior magnets so that after any induced winding is placed in the gap the gap may be closed tight.
The octagon has machined ends and was shrink welded and checked for gaps.
Clemente and Robert Adams both found lamination unnecessary.
I was attempting to build a working device with enough output to be undeniable. Many small devices produce so little output that they are impossible to measure with accuracy.
Thanks,
Garry

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iflewmyown,
 
Where is the induced winding? The turns of the induced winding should pass through the air gaps in accordance with the 1902 patent.
 
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Offline iflewmyown

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Bajac, I tried many induced winding patterns months ago, except your fig. 8. The device had been dismantled and stored. I have many devices and limited bench space. When I saw your post I set the unit back up again and ran tests on that configuration. It was stored again by the time you wanted pictures.
I am now building a device with laminations for further testing.
Thanks
Garry

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Offline Doug1

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A gramme wound seconday two oposing core two primary single ignition coil  potentailly ballanced against the source voltage. Shared cores on a single frame wont make it easier to build. Gramme winds to secure desired voltage/amperage, combined units to secure more amperage.Secondary and primary connected.The question is how and where and is the secondary a floating ground.

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Farmhand,


Lenz's law has no relation to the amount of energy or power being transferred. The law refers only to the polarity of the coil voltages when induced by magnetic fields.


Bajac

I said " in my opinion" but you state it as fact. I really think you ought to be able to demonstrate an example before stating things as fact.

If Lenz's law has no relation to the amount of energy or power being transferred, then when people say they have negated Lens Law what exactly does that mean ? And what is the indication that has happened ? Makes me wonder why it's such a problem if it has nothing to do with input compared to output.

Not seeing the input power increase when a load is added is not a negation of Lenz's Law. It's easy to do. I can show several examples and they all show that the output is restricted to less than the input.

Cheers


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Offline hanon

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Hi all,

I don´t know if everyone knows that Tesla himself mentioned the generator of Clemente Figuera in one of his letters.

Tesla sent a letter to his friend Robert Underwood Johnson, editor of Century magazine, after reading a newspaper clip about the discovery of Mr. Figuera in June of 1902. Please see the attached file, written up by Oliver Nichelson, who discovered this letter.

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There is something strange in this letter whihc I overlooked previously. What is the last statement about ? What is the Pic of Tenerife ?

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I think we need a scan of ORIGINAL Tesla article "The problem of increasing human energy" from 1900 and especially page 200 and further...

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I said " in my opinion" but you state it as fact. I really think you ought to be able to demonstrate an example before stating things as fact.

If Lenz's law has no relation to the amount of energy or power being transferred, then when people say they have negated Lens Law what exactly does that mean ? And what is the indication that has happened ? Makes me wonder why it's such a problem if it has nothing to do with input compared to output.

Not seeing the input power increase when a load is added is not a negation of Lenz's Law. It's easy to do. I can show several examples and they all show that the output is restricted to less than the input.

Cheers


Farmhand,


You are comparing oranges with apples. I do not have the time to go over this issue again. But, I would like to say that the polarity of the voltage induced in a coil by a magnetic field is the same either when there is no load (zero current) also know as zero energy transferred, or when the coil is fully loaded (substantial energy being transferred).


Bajac

 

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