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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1862948 times)

Offline NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1080 on: March 22, 2014, 08:35:31 PM »
Hello All:

Can some one explain to me how to calculate and find out the capacitance of a coil..How do we know what much of current can be retained in a capacitor or coil..Is there any formula for it? Please oblige.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1081 on: March 23, 2014, 12:14:43 AM »
Ok, everybody,

I want you to try, just for a moment, to think out of the box. I know you are openminded, otherwise you would not believe in Free Energy.

So what I got is success, but I had to stretch the term "Figuera" pretty much. Nonetheless, save the image and revisit it later, just don't ignore it please, cause from my POV this is the real deal and it means something to me that I present this here and not on youtube.

As so often in Life, I discovered a feature by accident. And this feature is yet to be exploited,  as right now certain ratios are coincedental. Ok, in simple terms...

I connected the middle coil to the 2 halfwave pulses, virtually reunited them to AC. So this was now the primary. Then I connected a rectifier, a LED and the voltmeter to the right coil.

I measured 2.18 vdc at 8.3 mA, the LED was dimmly lit.

Then out of boredom I short circuited the left coil, and beng! 2.67 vdc at 49.3 mA !!!

The Led was blindingly bright and the device became more silent.

Now, by mistake the left and right coil are not identical, the right one has more turns and 7.4 Ohm, compared to 6.4 Ohm that the left one has. So I made a test, swapped them : left out and right short circuited. Interesting result, efficiency dropped to
2.36vdc at 39mA. So the efficiency is higher when the shortened has fewer turns than the output coil (which is yet to be exploited in further optimizing).

Anyway, long story short: I did this measurement with greatest care and honesty and I measured all with the same meter, which appeared to work properly:

In: 0.021 Watt
Out: 0.131 Watt
Efficiency: 614%

I calculated roughly, a device of the size 1.5*1.5*0.9 meter would produce  3500 Watt, at 500 Watt Input. However, I run the test with a very small current, although the ferrite core seems to be saturated quickly in this mode.

Ok, here's the pic:

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1082 on: March 23, 2014, 01:25:15 AM »
Ok, everybody,

I want you to try, just for a moment, to think out of the box. I know you are openminded, otherwise you would not believe in Free Energy.

So what I got is success, but I had to stretch the term "Figuera" pretty much. Nonetheless, save the image and revisit it later, just don't ignore it please, cause from my POV this is the real deal and it means something to me that I present this here and not on youtube.

As so often in Life, I discovered a feature by accident. And this feature is yet to be exploited,  as right now certain ratios are coincedental. Ok, in simple terms...

I connected the middle coil to the 2 halfwave pulses, virtually reunited them to AC. So this was now the primary. Then I connected a rectifier, a LED and the voltmeter to the right coil.

I measured 2.18 vdc at 8.3 mA, the LED was dimmly lit.

Then out of boredom I short circuited the left coil, and beng! 2.67 vdc at 49.3 mA !!!

The Led was blindingly bright and the device became more silent.

Now, by mistake the left and right coil are not identical, the right one has more turns and 7.4 Ohm, compared to 6.4 Ohm that the left one has. So I made a test, swapped them : left out and right short circuited. Interesting result, efficiency dropped to
2.36vdc at 39mA. So the efficiency is higher when the shortened has fewer turns than the output coil (which is yet to be exploited in further optimizing).

Anyway, long story short: I did this measurement with greatest care and honesty and I measured all with the same meter, which appeared to work properly:

In: 0.021 Watt
Out: 0.131 Watt
Efficiency: 614%

I calculated roughly, a device of the size 1.5*1.5*0.9 meter would produce  3500 Watt, at 500 Watt Input. However, I run the test with a very small current, although the ferrite core seems to be saturated quickly in this mode.

Ok, here's the pic:


Dieter, I really need a circuit diagram to properly understand what you mean.
Is there any chance you can make  a circuit diagram please?
Great work by the way.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1083 on: March 23, 2014, 03:12:35 AM »
It is incredibly simple, but here you go. The resistance in AC is complex, so the primary does not simply run on 0.75v at 200 mA, but in fact on 0.188 v at 114 mA.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1084 on: March 23, 2014, 04:21:52 AM »
dieter:  thanks.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1085 on: March 23, 2014, 05:53:59 AM »
Great Work Dieter. The simpler it is Better it is. I have only plastic tubes and soft iron rods and lot of coils and I will check if what you have done here could be replicated on a larger size. The cores though will be straight NS-NS-NS only. Let me check and tell you if it works. But since we things a lot bigger, it will take some time for us to do.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1086 on: March 23, 2014, 09:50:02 AM »
It is incredibly simple, but here you go. The resistance in AC is complex, so the primary does not simply run on 0.75v at 200 mA, but in fact on 0.188 v at 114 mA.
Can you draw, there you put voltmeter and ampermeter in input coil?


Good work, keep going...

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1087 on: March 23, 2014, 10:51:18 AM »
It is incredibly simple, but here you go. The resistance in AC is complex, so the primary does not simply run on 0.75v at 200 mA, but in fact on 0.188 v at 114 mA.
dont forget, ac is not dc, so calculation differs too,  this is not overunity .

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« Reply #1088 on: March 23, 2014, 12:09:06 PM »
dont forget, ac is not dc, so calculation differs too,  this is not overunity .
If he meashure in AC mode with multimeter, then measurements can be correct.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1089 on: March 23, 2014, 12:19:12 PM »
Dieter,
Great results!!! I suppose that if you are also applying Jensen UDT then you should have used an air gap in one side of the central leg to increase its reluctance. Have you done so?

You device recalls me to the Thane Heins transformer.

Keep on the good work.

The F-machine is similar to the Jensen UDT:
http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ph-machine.htm
http://en.shram.kiev.ua/top/invention/invention2/2.shtml
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Issue5.pdf        See Page 6


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1090 on: March 23, 2014, 02:12:36 PM »
 NRamaswami;

when i stated my cores were 1 1/2 inch i was referring to core thickness not length. i miss posted earlier as my Primary cores being 8" but their not their 5" long x 1 1/2 " thick x 1 1/2" wide and Secondaries are 3/4"x 1 1/2"x 5" this makes my Primary cores Twice as big as Secondaries.  with my cores being 1 1/2" wide  this leaves me a window of two inches to play with in Primary coil length. i'm starting at 1 inch but can expand to 2" if i want or need to.
oh i almost forgot my cores are I cores so they can be stacked together like Lego building blocks.(III) easy to add extra power if needed. end core will be C cores but inner cores are all I cores for easy expansion. Remember it's so easy a kid can build it.

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« Reply #1091 on: March 23, 2014, 02:40:38 PM »
No, no airgaps.  IN was measured like this : AC was separated to 2 dc halfwaves, measured as dc, then reunited to AC, but this can be skipped and AC can be used right away. The 54 ohm resistor is there to limit the supply. There isn't much energy after that 54 Ohm resistor, even when stepped up normaly barely enough to light the LED at all.
The LED is a 5in1 3V 100mA LED (EDIT: can't be, more like 50 mA , 150 mW max).


It was also very interesting to get 49 mA with the shortened, after getting only 8mA with it unloaded/open.


I still try to understand it and yes, it may be a bi-torroid mechanism, reluctance imbalance due to impedance imbalance maybe. A shortend coil may perform recursively in terms of selfinductance...


Regards

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« Reply #1092 on: March 23, 2014, 03:31:08 PM »
Dieter, can you modify your circuit like the enclosed diagram
 and measure the battery voltage over a period of 1 hour?
It will tell us all we need to know I suspect.

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« Reply #1093 on: March 23, 2014, 04:49:20 PM »
I don't have a lead battery and the output voltage of this setup is not good to charge a car battery. I seem to observe better efficiency after a 54 ohm resistor than after only 27 ohm (79mA, yet got to do the math precisely), so the saruration may be reached quickly in such a small scale setup.


I'd be glad if some of you try it, since my meters are simple.


I will however try to run it at higher voltages to get about 15 Volts output and then add my inverter. Something like in series with some lightbulbs attached to mains.


BTW. you can use your figuera coils, just connect them "reversely". That's what I did. No gaps tho.


As I said, i did the measurement with greatest care, within my possibilities, which are limited and that's where you come in. I have to say, from all the setups with various cores and coils that I have made recently, some of them with great effort, this is clearly the most efficient.


Regards

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« Reply #1094 on: March 23, 2014, 05:31:50 PM »
I connected the middle coil to the 2 halfwave pulses, virtually reunited them to AC. So this was now the primary. Then I connected a rectifier, a LED and the voltmeter to the right coil.
That means that the input waveform was PDC, not pure DC.

Then out of boredom I short circuited the left coil, and bang! 2.67VDC at 49.3mA !!!
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Out: 0.131 Watt
Your output power calculation is wrong because for a PDC waveform, the calculation 2.67V * 49.3mA = 0.131W is invalid.
That calculation is valid only for pure DC.
It is invalid for PDC and AC.

Also, it is not surprising that shorting the left winding increases the flux variations in the right winding, because magnetic flux is expelled from under any shorted windings and since half of the flux cannot go through the left leg of the core anymore, then it must go through the right leg of the core....inducting more dΦ/dt there.