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Offline shadow119g

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1065 on: March 21, 2014, 04:55:12 PM »
Cadman:

Are you planning on using one or two brushes on your mechanical commutator?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1066 on: March 21, 2014, 06:56:19 PM »
Hanon and everyone;

You got me thinking about what you said of the post of the guy that keeps 10% of voltage in Secondary core. it dawned on me that something similar was happening in the figueras core i am working on. if you remember back when i posted a wave form graph of what i thought was happening . i then studied it for quite some time and it dawned on me that even though the core is being switched from NS to SN the Secondary core never sees Zero flux. it is changed from NS to SN when it is half way to zero. this tells me that at position 5 the core is full of flux from both cores and it is them being switched from NS to SN. yes/no
i have included the graph again below. please look at the moved zero volt line. the core is full of flux but at even amounts so no voltage or current produced but that doesn't mean the core is not full of flux just no definitive poles.    IS THIS POSSIBLE or am i just dead wrong.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1067 on: March 21, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
Shadow,

I'm using only one brush.

Marathonman,

This applies to the setup I am building, with one center core. The way I see it there is almost always the same amount of flux in the induced core, call it 100%. At any point in time that 100% is provided by the 2 inducer coils. One may be supplying 60% and the other 40%, or 50-50, or 20-80 etc. and the core poles do not ever reverse. The quantity of flux is constant, the balance of flux between north and south poles is what changes. Of course I could be mistaken.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1067 on: March 21, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1068 on: March 21, 2014, 08:42:37 PM »
Cadman


You're right about the primaries. But the induced willl have an alternating polarity. That requires one Primary north up, the other one south up. Otherwise there wouldn't be much going on in the secondary.


Hanon,


Good work with the diagram, you may want to combine it with the halfwave separator.


BTW., funny thought: how about to add a smoothed negative voltage to the rectified pulse or halfwave, eg. add -12 Volts to a +10V pulse, that should invert the waveform and give some "stingy" pulses that blend smoothly to the dc offset (here -2 volts). The result is negative, but you just have to swap the wires... Untested thought tho.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1069 on: March 21, 2014, 08:54:03 PM »
Dieter,

Well, I disagree, at least until proven otherwise. The reason being that the n poles and s poles of the inducers are always north and south, so how could the corresponding ends of the induced core have a different magnetic polarity? Serious question. The fields of the inducer coils do not collapse, they are reduced in steps.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1069 on: March 21, 2014, 08:54:03 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1070 on: March 21, 2014, 10:22:24 PM »
hello;
 I'm sorry to bug everyone but i need help.
my other post i posted again the wrong calculations based on 12 volt not 100. Sorry so stupid of me. well i want to know if a 1.5 inch iron core with a radius of 1.25 and 1 inch coil at a depth of 1/2 inch @ 18 awg wire will put out that much Tesla's. according to the program i used it says i need only 300 turns to achieve almost 3 Tesla's. are these calculations correct. PLEASE HELP!

here is shortcut to program and below is screen shot of calculations 
 http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/electromagnetism/solenoid

oh man radius is wrong i'm sorry i will repost

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1071 on: March 21, 2014, 10:29:53 PM »
SORRY FOR REPOST PIC WAS WRONG. PLEASE FORGIVE.
is this correct Please help!

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1072 on: March 21, 2014, 10:51:24 PM »
Hello guys!

The other day I was searching the internet for an offset ac power supply for this project and I came up with this simple circuit (see picture below). I think this are exactly the waveforms  that are needed for the electromagnets, so I hope it helps anyone at this project.

If AC source (transformer) is 24v and battery is also 24v, then the resistors must be around 40W (you could also use adequate lightbulbs instead of resistors) and the output on the coils will be around 25W, but you can also go with the small power version and use 12V AC and 12V battery. In this case the resistors should be around 7W.

Just calculate the coil according to Ohms law and resistance per meter for your wire and you should be fine.

Well this circuit is nothing about efficiency, but it simply should do the trick.

Dann

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1073 on: March 21, 2014, 11:05:32 PM »
Marathonman:

The calculation is correct. You are talking about a 1 inch long but 1.5 inch dia electromagnet core with 300 turns per inch.  That turns out to be 11811 turns per meter. You would find the magnet tryiing to jump. The other problem is that the magnet would be wound like a pancake. The wire will try to take more amps and the magnet would be very unstable.  I do not cross more than 1800 turns per meter as a thumb rule. If the magnetic field is very strong you are not going to get any output in secondary. If you send 2 amps current the iron will melt at these ranges. So be careful. (Core saturation starts at 20 turns per inch). You are dealing with Electricity that can kill and harm and so avoid taking risks.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1073 on: March 21, 2014, 11:05:32 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1074 on: March 21, 2014, 11:29:49 PM »
Cadman,
.I already explained that, so here in short:
P1 is always north, P 2 always south, but they alternate in intensity. If P 1 is most intensive, it will almost exclusively flow trough Y, making Y south (talking about upside). Then, P 1 reaches minumum and P 2 is at maximum, P 2 will almost exclusively flow trough Y, tho, now in the reverse direction.


The collapsing field in Y will add to the next halfwave of the AC output.


The back mmf on the other hand will choose the path of least resistance, that is the currently non-intense side that has the same polarity like the back magnetomotive force. This is why we should get OU, shipping around Lenz law.


If both Ps are north, then there will always be the same polarity and even amplitude in Y. The back EMF will reduce the efficiency and the back MMF will do so even more. I would be surprised if there are 20 Millivolts in the output. I could be wrong tho. However,  just swap the wires to compare.
 

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1075 on: March 22, 2014, 12:02:23 AM »
Hi all,

Another method to have a AC signal without reaching zero current anytime  (see attached picture).

Marathonman, I do not understand your explanation about the wave and the 5th contact in the conmutator . Why do the zero level change in the upside and downside of the signal? Why does the flux never reach zero from NS to SN? Could you explain it in a different way?

Madddann, Welcome !!  Thanks for your great contribution. I will study in deepth. It seems to be a simple circuit. It will be great if it works !! Thanks.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #1076 on: March 22, 2014, 12:32:58 AM »
the changed zero level is where both Electromagnets are even, after that one continues to lower and one continues to raise.
the real zero line in the middle is where normal zero would be if electromagnet was to fall completely but it is not, the secondary is switching polarity at 50 % NS to SN.

NRamaswami:

18 awg wire is .0403 inch / 1 inch = 24.8 turns per inch  so what am i suppose to avoid that at 20 turn per inch limit. EXPLAIN!


 dieter;
You get a gold star on your forehead and 15 minutes extra recess. very good explain!

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« Reply #1077 on: March 22, 2014, 05:23:21 AM »
Marathonman:

You probably are using enamal coated magnet wire. Not plastic insulated wire. If you wind for 1 inch with 1.5 inch dia, you are talking about 12 layers of turns. Not sure how the magnet would function but test it. But if you are going to 2 amps in that small piece things could be messy. That is all I know. If the iron shouts rather than an humming sound note that it is a warning.  Go ahead and do the experiment and just advise what happens..I have not done these things. My magnets are 4 inch dia and as a thumb rule I have always used a minimum of 1.5:1 LD ratio and maximum of 4:1 LD ratio but well I could be wrong..Just advise the experimental results please. If I were to follow you, I would need to reduce it to 2.5 inches length for 4 inch dia magnets. The intensity in your case is much more higher than what I have done. 11000 turns per meter is an enormous number of wire density in so far as turn ratios are concerned. try with low voltages and then go higher and take care. That is all I would say. All the best.

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« Reply #1078 on: March 22, 2014, 01:31:36 PM »
NRamaswami;

 Yes sir you are correct i am using mag wire. i plan on going to max amps of 1 even though traces are rated for 2.1a i will not go no higher than 1 as per your and others 2 to 3 Teslas recommendations so i think i will be ok  plus my past experiences i know core will scream but thanks for the re info just the same. core is 1 1/2 inch but coil is 1"long x .75" thick  at 18 awg diameter @ 307 turns. the MJH11022 T0 247's have a max dissipate of 150 watts 1.5a @100v  so i'll stay at 1 amp. i took myself through transformer school the last couple of days so i follow you well and can understand where you are coming from. plus i took many transformers apart and studied the construction, thickness and coil parameters this is why came to my present design specification for Figueras Transformer.  figueras calls for 100 v @ 1a so this is what i am using.
Of course i will advise this is why i am here.

I HOPE YOU FIGUERA IT OUT. ha ha ha

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« Reply #1079 on: March 22, 2014, 08:15:35 PM »
Marathonman:

Thanks for the kind words. I'm obliged. I do not understand much about transistors and electronics and in a way I'm unable to like them for the last time I tried to make circuits, I had lead smoke got in to my nose and it was a big trouble for me for almost two months. It is not for me. I understood the coil size but all said and done a small coil is a small coil whatever be the turn density. If you are making two 1 inch primaries, then you need to have a secondary that is also less than 1 inch long. I do not know how you are going to do and what is the output you are going to get but I wish you all success. I believe that I have understood this device very well now and I will get a commutator, that can withstand stress and it will take another week or ten days for it to be customized and given to me. Then let me try my hands..

By the way can any body suggest a low magnetic, low core loss, low thermal conducting material for me to try to check how the system would work when we use low core loss material and low magnetic materials. I would be obliged for any suggestions. Thanks to all.

 

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