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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1472332 times)

Offline forest

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what ? I'm just trying to help  :o if you have so little money to spend you can find arduino clone very cheap but I don't advice it in other case...

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Offline hanon

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Hi all,
I've read this whole thread and find it very interesting. I found out about Clemente from a free eBook. I decided to try the digital timing circuit.

Hi RMatt,

The circuit described by Patrick Kelly in his ebook is fine to do the work and easy to be built ( http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/ )but it has some mistakes in the connections. Please see the scheme I have attached to this post for a correct configuration. I have just built the counters. I am waiting for the darlinton transistors to complete the circuit.

Good luck!!

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Thank you for the circuit.
Patrick Kelly has shut down his site http://www.free-energy-info.com but was still allowing people to download ebook.

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Hi all,

Here I attach an interview to Clemente Figuera with some interesting insights. At the end of this post I have included a pdf file with the original press clipping an its translation into english.

INTERVIEW TO CLEMENTE
FIGUERA 1902 (ENGLISH)
Mr. Clemente Figuera. - The name of the
conscientious and intelligent engineer,
Inspector of mountains in Canary, is now
universally known, thanks to the news
published by the press about the generator
of his invention for producing far-reaching
consequences, because it constitutes a
valuable element in modern mechanics,
solving problems which will influence
powerfully in most industries.
The meritable engineer states in a recently
published work. - "With persistent effort
nature keeps its secrets, but man´s
intelligence, the most precious gift due to
the divine artist, author of all creation,
allows that slowly and at the cost of
thousands studies and works, the human
race realize that God's work is more perfect
and harmonious than it looks at first sight.
There was no need to create a agent for
each kind of phenomenon, nor varying
forces to produce the multiple motions, nor
so many substances as varieties of bodies
are present to our senses; In doing so, it
was proceeding worthy of a least wise and
powerful creator that that, with a single
matter and a single impulse given to an
atom, started in vibration all cosmic matter,
according to a law from which the others
are natural and logical consequences”
And later he adds: "The twentieth century
has given us the mercy of discovering its
program in general lines. It will stop using
the hackneyed system of transformations,
and it will take the agents where the nature
has them stored. To produce heat, light or
electricity, it will rely on the suitable
vibratory motion because nature´s
available storages are renewed constantly
and have no end ever. For the next
generation, the steam engines will be an
antique, and the blackness of coal, will be
replaced by the pulchritude of electricity, in
factories and workshops, in ocean liners, in
railways and in our homes”
So says Mr. Figueras, who is consistent
with his scientific creed, has based his
significant invention on harnessing the
vibrations of the ether, building a device,
that he names as Generator Figueras, with
the power required to run a motor, as well
as powering itself, developing a force of
twenty horse power. Should be noted that
the produced energy can be applied to all
kinds of industries and its cost is zero,
because nothing is spent to obtain it. All
parts have been built separately in various
workshops under the management of the
inventor, who has shown the generator
running in his home in the city of Las
Palmas.
The inventor holds that his generator will
solve a portion of problems, including those
which are derived from navigation, because
a great power can be carried in a very
small space, stating that the secret of his
invention resembles the egg of Columbus.
With the generator it may be obtained the
voltage and amperage required, as direct
or alternate currents, producing light,
driving force, heat and all the effects of the
electricity. It is said that shortly Mr. Figuera
will depart to Paris, to constitute a union in
charge of the exploitation of his invention.
Due to the gallantry of our good friend, the
distinguished photographer of Las Palmas
Mr. Luis Ojeda, we thank for making public
to our readers a portrait of Mr. Clemente
Figueras, to whom we congratulate on his
invention, making fervent hopes to produce
the expected beneficial results, for the
benefit of mankind, for the sake of science
and honor of our country, proud to count
him among the number of its illustrious
sons.


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When ever in the past I have asked how an alternator can use potential from a battery to form a field to power the loads and charge the battery which really does seem impossible.I am always told the engine provides motive power to turn the field to induce upon or in the stator the current and voltage to power the loads and charge the battery. Induction on the stator formed by building up and reversing magnetic field direction repeatedly quickly. The speed and strength of the feild regulated to offset each other should one be less then enough to get results. I always wondered why the snake cant eat it's tail other then the pain. I never really went as far as to examine the field strength required to get the effects in a counter form without motive power added to create the strength of field. Or how one would double the field strength in the stator with out needing twice the current which would consume more then the required output to do all that work. So looking for the differences between my imaginationary model and the topic of the thread I see a clever use of colliding two of the same direction poles. Thinking about examples of this effect,collision of two objects.How would that help when the two objects consume (x?) amount of energy to get moving so they can collide.At best resulting in no gain and more likely loss will never be avioded. Well eventually I considered a train motor car pushing two box cars side by side down two tracks side by side.One motor car two box cars. To a portion of tracks that ends in a closed loop. How much energy is there in the collision of two objects that are propelled by a single force and then seperated in direction so they can be smashed agaisnt one another? If the total amount of energy could be taken from the point of impact between the two cars would that equal the amount the of energy used to get the two cars moving? Like wise if two seamingly week electro magnets are put up agaist one another n to n or s to s  is the resulting crash 1+1 or something other then?What trickery can be applied to suck out every stitch of power from the point of impact instead of trying to leach off the effects of the moving cars as they pass by from the sides?Tansformers seem to be working off the sides of the fields only. While this thing is using the sides to set up fields (Motion) on the pole faces and smashing them together and pulling off at the point of impact. Is the strength of the feild magnified in the space between pole faces and what likely winding shape would it take to pick off the effect and transform it to current? The shape of field as it grows and compresses against the same would be usefull to determine the type of winding and if it should encompass the individual n or s feilds or all of them together?Or both? Just wondering.

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When ever in the past I have asked how an alternator can use potential from a battery to form a field to power the loads and charge the battery which really does seem impossible.I am always told the engine provides motive power to turn the field to induce upon or in the stator the current and voltage to power the loads and charge the battery. Induction on the stator formed by building up and reversing magnetic field direction repeatedly quickly. The speed and strength of the feild regulated to offset each other should one be less then enough to get results. I always wondered why the snake cant eat it's tail other then the pain. I never really went as far as to examine the field strength required to get the effects in a counter form without motive power added to create the strength of field. Or how one would double the field strength in the stator with out needing twice the current which would consume more then the required output to do all that work. So looking for the differences between my imaginationary model and the topic of the thread I see a clever use of colliding two of the same direction poles. Thinking about examples of this effect,collision of two objects.How would that help when the two objects consume (x?) amount of energy to get moving so they can collide.At best resulting in no gain and more likely loss will never be avioded. Well eventually I considered a train motor car pushing two box cars side by side down two tracks side by side.One motor car two box cars. To a portion of tracks that ends in a closed loop. How much energy is there in the collision of two objects that are propelled by a single force and then seperated in direction so they can be smashed agaisnt one another? If the total amount of energy could be taken from the point of impact between the two cars would that equal the amount the of energy used to get the two cars moving? Like wise if two seamingly week electro magnets are put up agaist one another n to n or s to s  is the resulting crash 1+1 or something other then?What trickery can be applied to suck out every stitch of power from the point of impact instead of trying to leach off the effects of the moving cars as they pass by from the sides?Tansformers seem to be working off the sides of the fields only. While this thing is using the sides to set up fields (Motion) on the pole faces and smashing them together and pulling off at the point of impact. Is the strength of the feild magnified in the space between pole faces and what likely winding shape would it take to pick off the effect and transform it to current? The shape of field as it grows and compresses against the same would be usefull to determine the type of winding and if it should encompass the individual n or s feilds or all of them together?Or both? Just wondering.




Woooo ,sorry...I have inability to learn long english sentences....but I will try to help you.....ready ? steady ? GO!
watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swNkzM-GYQ0

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Hi all,
 
I have been helping to the person who did the first report about the life and inventions of Clemente Figuera in order to include more documentation into his site as well as translating it into English to make easier its understanding by most readers. We have included new material, some of them not yet released until now. The attached files to the new site are:
-        The pdf files of the 5 Figuera patents 
-        Test of practical implementation of a patent filed in 1910 by Buforn, a financial partner of Figuera, who kept on trying to commercialize his generator after Figuera´s death
-        A press report about Figuera
-        An interview to Figuera
-        Figuera´s telegram about the sale of the 1902 patent to a banker union
-        List of Buforn´s patents after Figuera´s death (you can see that they are mostly a copy of the Figuera design from 1908)
-        Some press clippings about Figuera´s invention
 
Spanish webpage: http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?p=4005             (link)
English webpage:  http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258    (link)
 

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"The inventor holds that his generator will
solve a portion of problems, including those
which are derived from navigation, because
a great power can be carried in a very
small space, stating that the secret of his
invention resembles the egg of Columbus."

Egg of Columbus:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus


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"The inventor holds that his generator will
solve a portion of problems, including those
which are derived from navigation, because
a great power can be carried in a very
small space, stating that the secret of his
invention resembles the egg of Columbus."

Egg of Columbus:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_of_Columbus


Yes, the simplicity overlooked by others. The scientific fact nobody care about ! The simple reality we ALL KNOW...Guess what ..???

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Offline hanon

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Tesla presented his Egg of Columbus the previous decade at the Chicago World's Fair in 1893.  Coincidence?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%27s_Egg_of_Columbus

"Tesla's device used a toroidal iron core stator on which four coils were wound. The device was powered by a two-phase alternating current source (such as a variable speed alternator) to create the rotating magnetic field."

See the drawing into Figuera´s patent 30378:  http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/docums/30378.pdf

I copy one suggestion which was given to me:  "Therefore, what he does is a "Static Simulation" of the same exact changes the conductor faces, by applying a pulsating or sine wave current to the exciting coils...  ....creating a "Virtual Rotary Pulse"...we could easily apply it here if we independently feed one channel per independent exciter coils"

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Look what I have found about a replication of this generator :

http://maestroviejo.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/clemente-figuera-aunque-para-recoger-electricidad-no-haga-falta-bobina-tesla/

The controller is a VFD (Variable Frequency Drive) from a DC motor  (PWM --> pulsed current)

Please share your thoughts about this info

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Hanon
 Where did you get the image on Reply #97 ? Where you were asking about (To the origin). Maybe you could upload a collection of images and state where they each came from. I only speak English so looking at you last entry I was only able to veiw a couple photos. As far as thoughts go ,it apears or looks like the inductor/s are placed between the faces of the electro magnets not wrapped around a core piece of iron.Not like a transformer which shares a core with other secondary windings. I think most people can gather that from the patent discription. If all the lines of force will travel the air gap then another set of dynamic princeables have to be used like fluid dynamics to tweek the gap and its relationship to the inductive winding sitting between it. A iron core peice between the gap is most likely not needed ,the opposite electro magnets core will attract the lines of force through the space and inductor coil. If the inductor coil current ends up in the opposite electromagnets after passing through a load it will either be additive to the attraction of the lines of force.Or it will resist the lines of force by pushing back with the same force depending on how the n/s electromagnets are wound.Viewing the electromagnet charactoristics the B-H curve would benifit most if it were short and fat. To much waste goes into reaching the peaks of permiabillity when all the desired reaction is in the changing lines of force and cutting them with as much conductor as possible. Sory for the long sentences.I write as I would speak.Ive never had to use periods when speaking.Everyone I know complains about my grammer and spelling.

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Hi Doug,
 
The main site to download all info about Clemente Figuera (his 5 patents and all historical documents) is: http://www.alpoma.net/tecob/?page_id=8258
 
Particularly, the picture you refer with the text "To the origin" is the figure from the 1908 patent. This is the direct link to the pdf file: http://www.alpoma.com/figuera/patente_1908.pdf
 
 
 

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so looking at you last entry I was only able to veiw a couple photos. As far as thoughts go ,it apears or looks like the inductor/s are placed between the faces of the electro magnets not wrapped around a core piece of iron

Hi Doug
in the text behind the photos it says one electromagnet is placed between the 2 collectors. And 4 electromagnets with 8 collectors is all that is needed.

Its an inverse way to the original patent, I think.
cheers
Alvaro

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Thanks Alvero and Hanon
 Been a long week.
 Have you considered how fast the little comutator gizmo will have to spin to output AC at 50 to 60 htz? It does all seem to be sort of backwards or inverse.

 

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