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helloha

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CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« on: September 21, 2012, 03:55:52 AM »
Overbalanced Wheel created using 3d program. Enjoy.
http://youtu.be/NsRNfTorxnk
http://youtu.be/5CB-nV2O_5k


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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2012, 09:01:42 PM »
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AquariuZ

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 03:27:51 PM »
Very very nice!

Can you please tell us more on the 3D software used, specifically what parameters where used with regards to friction, gravity, materials, elasticity etc etc.

Just to see if it is viable to try and create a real world model.

Thank you for sharing this.
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DreamThinkBuild

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 07:28:27 PM »
Hi Helloha,

Welcome to the forum.

Those are interesting designs. What kind of friction settings were used for that model? I don't really trust simulations but the multi-layer design is pretty unique. Looks almost like a double helix path when looked on the edge.

These designs would be good candidates for 3D printers. You can do some crazy stuff with 3D printers that would be near impossible by hand. :)
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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 07:42:24 PM »
been using autodesk 3dsmax for modeling and physics simulation. But the software are meant mainly for game and cinematic animation, so accuracy on the physics i don't expect much. Parameters provide basic feature, friction, gravity, elasticity, drag (i think its air drag, no idea). Reason why i only model wheel with balls rotating, ... or maybe its my lack of skills.

if want to real world model, can choose CAD-specific software, like autodesk inventor or solidworks etc



to DreamThinkBuild, same mindset, i also don't fully trust simulations, i use 3d and sim to have better perspective (way better on sketches & papers). actually i was surprised some of the sim can rotate... hmm



drop ball action with wheel

http://youtu.be/1VIYHqRD-Wg
http://youtu.be/Jm8yPyUq7CE
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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 01:27:20 AM »
update of my latest cg work on overbalanced wheels, enjoy

http://youtu.be/TBYVHU8NY6I
http://youtu.be/iICU3JguC5w


cartoony visual look of overbalanced wheels

http://youtu.be/1rM36i-41D8
http://youtu.be/PQxCMwHI2kc

traditional overbalanced wheel

http://youtu.be/W0OLfA9k_-0
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truesearch

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 04:23:27 PM »
@helloha


Nice animations! That is an informative way of showing what is REALLY suppose to happen  ;D


If you do a build based on your research, I hope you keep us posted.


Wishing you the best.


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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2012, 12:19:03 AM »
@truesearch

I wouldn't be doing any build as i highly doubt any of the cg will work in reality, as the mass balance doesn't seem right.
Also i don't have any skill for doing wood and metals.

I don't do math or physics but i assume the ascending side always have more total mass/force than descending side, example see the video link (count the total no. of balls on each side).
http://youtu.be/y47LmlHTVhA
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johnny874

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2012, 11:31:01 PM »
  helloha,
 am wondering if I can ask a huge favor of you ? I watched your videos and I must say they are quite impressive.
 The favor I am asking is if you could do a small video of the design in the picture. The idea is that water pumps around the outside of the wheel when the weighted levers close the curved boards. It is something I have been working on to build over the last couple of years.
 I am going to be building a wood model over the next few months as I do plan on building an actual wheel. It is what I believe Johann Bessler built in the early 1700's. I am not sure if you are familiar with him but there are those of us who do believe he was successful.
 
 
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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2012, 04:15:51 AM »
hi johnny874,

as the software i use don't have fluid simulation feature (u mention water pumps, so i assume it need fluid simulation), so i won't be doing video.
but i can model out the wheel based on the pics u attached, hope it help.
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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2012, 11:44:36 PM »
helloha
Very good computer animations.
Thanks for showing them.
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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2012, 06:09:13 AM »
yet another new cg

http://youtu.be/FLxQDlD9Gzw

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johnny874

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2012, 10:34:37 PM »
Quote from: helloha on October 21, 2012, 06:09:13 AM
yet another new cg

http://youtu.be/FLxQDlD9Gzw

  helloha,
 Your vidoes are awesome. After looking at the model you made, I am thinking I can build something like that.
It will take me some time to do it but I love the open face it has.  Thanks much  :D
 
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helloha

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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2012, 05:14:41 AM »
Quote from: johnny874 on October 23, 2012, 10:34:37 PM

  helloha,
 Your vidoes are awesome. After looking at the model you made, I am thinking I can build something like that.
It will take me some time to do it but I love the open face it has.  Thanks much  :D
 
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hi jim

simple two words
       Do it

add another three words
       Best of Luck

cheers  ;D
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Re: CG Showcase of Overbalanced Wheel
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2012, 04:48:09 PM »
Quote from: helloha on October 24, 2012, 05:14:41 AM
hi jim

simple two words
       Do it

add another three words
       Best of Luck

cheers  ;D

   Thanks   ;) :D
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