Hi,


Here is the first experiment with ferrite magnets (Speaker magnets). Stationary magnet has a stack of three (Two big and one small) magnets with a few washers between as spacers so the moving magnet (same size as the middle magnet in the stack) can enter the notch/pit freely.
As surface I have two aluminium plates.


Notice where the neutral position is for both attraction and repel mode.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZ4oedqf8w


Vidar

now without using hands

The hands are there just to align the magnets. When the magnets initially repels, the position where they are neither repelling or attracting is so delicate, only friction on the surface stopped the moving magnet from flying away. You see that I move the stationay magnet maybe 1 mm at max, which was enough to trigger the powerful repelling action (Which is pretty amazing itself). This last video is only showing how the assambly works.


To be continued ;-)


Vidar

Try using non-magnetic spacers, and make two stacks like this: 
NS-spacer-SN-spacer. You will have to glue it so it stays together since the like poles are facing.
Flip one over so it's spacer-NS-spacer-SN . Now see how they interact when approaching sideways like you are doing.

I've found positions where the stacks are not in contact, but are stably magnetically connected. I call this a non-contact trailer hitch. It's a stable position of the magnets where they aren't touching but don't want to get closer together or further apart.

The hands are there just to align the magnets. When the magnets initially repels, the position where they are neither repelling or attracting is so delicate, only friction on the surface stopped the moving magnet from flying away. You see that I move the stationay magnet maybe 1 mm at max, which was enough to trigger the powerful repelling action (Which is pretty amazing itself). This last video is only showing how the assambly works.


To be continued ;-)


Vidar

1 mm max ? Actually no.
I see you push the other magnet the entire way back using your hands.
That's where you put in kinetic energy which is released when you trigger it and that is where the energy for the amazing powerfull repelling action comes from.
And you will always have to put in that amount of energy to get that reaction.
That is why i said now without hands.
The hands are your power supply it will not work without you pushing those magnets all the way back to charge the system.

And you know it.

Ah i see.

But, no it can not be used to make a self running magnet motor.
Sorry to disapoint.
Unless you build it to certain external frequency specific energy carrying or moving fieldlines then it can possible run on that energy but only if it is strong enough to overcome frictional losses.
But then again, it would not be overunity right.
Then it would be free energy given that you do not have to pay for it.
But not from some magnets alone.
No way.

Bottom line is that you need an energy source to start with.
No energy source no movement it's that simple.

Vidar,

I think you may have solved the problem!
The concept is very simple, the field in the gap is very strong and to another magnet entering as attraction, the gap would have the opposite polarity and is pushed out of the slot.
So there is a balance point at some distance into the slot.

With the magnet in repulsion, the magnet would be pulled into the slot, but at the right distance into the slot, the magnet is again in balance.

This situation solves all the required conditions to move from attraction to repulsion without input energy and this is the critical point that you can just glide through!

I agree, your mortor design should work and will also need no input to start running.

You have correctly understood the concept. What remains is if this really works in real life.


I have tested the same setup as with the ferrite magnets, but replaced the moving ferrite magnet with a long neo-magnet (70 x 5 x 5 mm) polarized through thickness. With this I tried to turn it 180 degrees while it was positioned at the neutral position with the "tip" towards the slot, but that does not work. The magnet really want to stay in "attraction mode" - just to see if THAT one worked. Also the neo magnet is so strong it swaped polarity at one point of the ferrite magnet... But don't worry. I have more of these ferrites - lots of them.


I must make a special magnet, cylinder shaped magnet made of ferrite, and polarized through diameter. Yesterday I bought a small bag with assorted round ferrite disc magnets. I will stack them, and then use a neo magnet to polarize them as I want. But I also need to extent that magnet with a bigger cylindrical magnet with same polarization in order to cover the upper and lower stationary magnets - under and above the slot.


This way the big cylindrical magnet is forced to turn 180 degrees at the same time as the smaller part inside the slot wants to stay. Hopefully the torque will cancel out making it easy to turn 180 degrees.


I will make a drawing of the moving magnet as I want it to look like. Will be posted soon.


Vidar

This is what I want to try. See pictures (They should explain themself)

You might be right. However, this is a pretty inexpencive experiment, so it is worth a try anyways. As a sceptic to OU I have a bad feeling, but also a good feeling... the experiments will tell the true story.


Vidar

True it never hurts to try.
Good luck.

When it doesn't work out as hoped, and you are looking for a new and more promising direction just let me know.