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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11803684 times)

justawatt

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22860 on: December 20, 2020, 11:20:24 AM »
Now things add up   ;D don smith has somewhat frequency and wave like Ruslan has . Might be this is the key we are looking for for overunity.
If possible can you draw the circuit
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lancaIV

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22861 on: December 20, 2020, 11:28:31 AM »
« Last Edit: December 20, 2020, 03:15:03 PM by lancaIV »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22862 on: December 20, 2020, 01:24:10 PM »
Quote from: justawatt on December 15, 2020, 07:11:54 PM
Got from a group

Hello! where does this scheme come from? You have lay file this scheme?
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justawatt

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22863 on: December 20, 2020, 02:47:13 PM »
Quote from: N20Wolf on December 20, 2020, 01:24:10 PM
Hello! where does this scheme come from? You have lay file this scheme?

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1zoGipNcPazprWeMgVb7UDIYwyu3fO_OL

This is the link..you can only see it to download it have to get the grand from them
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l0stf0x

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22864 on: December 20, 2020, 03:30:12 PM »
Quote from: AlienGrey on December 20, 2020, 09:31:42 AM
I don't suppose you could do a breakdown drawing of how ir's built ? a picture paints a 1000 words and all that !  :)

regards AG

Hey AlienGrey! Sure I can but I am so lazy! maybe you will be ok with my description (if not I will make a drawing).
What is under Don's coiling in my grenade, that is surely working together with secondary's, is a shorted coil on resonance (I am not sure if this has anything to do with the waveform) ... Maybe it doesn't need the shorted coil at all. I can' t disconnect it and test it as is fixed inside the grenade under first pipe which is under the secondary's, etc.

« Last Edit: December 20, 2020, 06:23:39 PM by l0stf0x »
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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22865 on: December 20, 2020, 03:49:48 PM »

There is a lot of talk about this "dancing wave" and "fish-like waveform" lately which could/should be the secret to the Ruslan device, both here and via PM's.

This video is showing how these waveforms can be created, presented by Justawatt in post #22809:   https://youtu.be/FBAKLoOXv34

They use a push/pull kind of setup driving a inductor/grenade like coil combination.
The difference is that the push/pull is not driven by a TL494 (single frequency) but by a 2 channel FG set at 2 frequencies a few (K)Hertz apart.

This creates a zero beat effect (https://youtu.be/Gwo092k4N2U?t=48) causing adding and subtracting the both signals when mixed and thus the fish-like signal.


I could easily show that effect using my TL494 driver, Yoke, Inductor and Grenade, but instead of using the TL494 single frequency i use my dual channel FG to drive the MOSFETs with 2 frequencies slightly apart, see screenshot.

Video here: https://youtu.be/yker3GIvchg


Why others see this fish-like waveform using only a TL494 (single frequency) could have something to do with oscillations in the TL494 circuit causing the both TL494 push/pull signals to slightly go offset or delayed thus presenting 2 different frequencies again with the same effect.

Stiffening up this TL494 circuit (0.1uF decoupling ceramic caps directly across its plus / minus leads on the chip) etc. could prevent this.

The question is if this then will not KILL the overunity effect it suppose to have.
This oscillation / feedback in a circuit is very hard to replicate, so it is up the ones having this fish-like waveform to either use it (overunity?) or battle it by decoupling.

 
Why does Conico see this same fish-like signal using a single channel FG and no mixing?
I was not able to do that, so i guess it must have something to do with the equipment he used, like his FG is somehow mixing internally 2 frequencies and present it to
the inductor/grenade or... there is really something happening inside the inductor/grenade like standing waves or whatever that is causing this, so more tests are needed.

Anyone else seeing the dancing wave while only scoping the Grenade and driving the inductor by a FG (single channel) in resonance?

Regards Itsu
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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22866 on: December 20, 2020, 03:57:26 PM »
   Can some one show how this fish form wave/dancing wave thing has anything to do with OU, or self running???   Or are we barking up the wrong tree, again.

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N20Wolf

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22867 on: December 20, 2020, 04:04:08 PM »
Quote from: justawatt on December 20, 2020, 02:47:13 PM
https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1zoGipNcPazprWeMgVb7UDIYwyu3fO_OL

This is the link..you can only see it to download it have to get the grand from them

Thank you! but how to find the author of the scheme?
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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22868 on: December 20, 2020, 04:18:32 PM »
   "Why does Conico see this same fish-like signal using a single channel FG and no mixing"?
   Perhaps, it's because he has a difference on his push/pull circuit, and both channels are not seeing the two primary inductors as not being exactly the same, on both primary coils. An imbalance in the circuit, etz...
   We must keep in mind that the grenade's push/pull device runs at around 15 to 19KHz. And we know that different frequencies (higher or lower) can cause different waves forms and results. But, does this really lead to something anamolous? Or not...

   NickZ
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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22869 on: December 20, 2020, 04:27:33 PM »

But he is NOT using any push/pull circuit, just a single channel FG driving directly the inductor and scoping the Grenade like i showed here:
https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg554039/#msg554039

The hype is that this dancing wave is the missing secret from the Ruslan device.
Adding kacher spikes or nano-pulses ontop of this dancing wave causes the OU, at least that is how i understand it all.

Itsu
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l0stf0x

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22870 on: December 20, 2020, 04:47:22 PM »
Push pull is not needed. A pulse gen is all I use.

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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22871 on: December 20, 2020, 04:48:40 PM »
 
   Thanks for the explanation itsu,  now, we need to prove that to be true. By showing it doing so.
   I did get confused concerning the "inductors", thank for the correction.

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itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22872 on: December 20, 2020, 04:53:54 PM »

Inductors?   He has only 1 like normal.

I used 15Khz in my test above, the screenshot shows a 15.3KHz dancing wave, the frequency readout was thrown off by the dancing i guess.

Itsu
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l0stf0x

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22873 on: December 20, 2020, 05:02:57 PM »
The reason of this waveform? Well its only a sign that the secondary's are nicely tuned.
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NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #22874 on: December 20, 2020, 05:20:35 PM »
Quote from: conico on December 18, 2020, 05:28:37 PM
Hi Itsu,
  square wave, 50% first time and 40% Duty cycle second time but it was the same result.

I tried with my function generator a 20V square wave and no capacitors at all


I found high amplitude at 840Khz and second time at 1.7Mhz high amplitude I went further and at 1.75Mhz a dancing wave.
At 1850Khz it was a dancing wave too

FG on inductor and oscilloscope on grenades.
The signal amplitude on grenade was higher at 1.7-1.8Mhz compared to the 840 Khz signal.

   Conico:  Can you show a video of the above? But instead, what it can do at 10KHz, to 37KHz, or so.  Not in the MHz range, nor in the high KHz range. Which are not where the OU is supposed to happen at, on the grenade device. Normal push/pull operation is around 15 to 19KHz, generally. Can you get a dancing fish wave form at those frequencies?
   
   NickZ


   
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