Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (Read 11803302 times)

T-1000 · « **Reply #20670 on:** March 04, 2019, 03:18:16 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on March 04, 2019, 02:46:17 PM

This effect is seen while using only the simple non controllable Kacher circuit. As is shown in one of my videos. The "Radio Moscow" sound and signal is also present, which shows the interaction of the two circuits, as hand movements affect the near field. https://youtu.be/-UZ50Dvc6Lw
So, I don't understand why you only see a "diminishing" effect.

To answer question you asked Geo - your katcher is too weak and you have to raise Tesla primary voltage to the point where katcher almost will start arcing by itself. It is critical point for achieving same interaction where bulbs go out by just de-tuning Tesla coil. And the discharge color have to be yellow color after going through top load "antenna". While still blue-whiteish on tip of secondary coil.

P.S> The constant smell of ozone is the side effect of this setup. Just keep place ventilated for safety reasons.

Cheers!

NickZ · « **Reply #20671 on:** March 04, 2019, 04:06:55 PM »

T-1000: Good to see you still posting.
Although you may be right as to the weakness of the Kacher circuit's output. However, neither Akula or Ruslan have shown the type of HV arcs that you mention are needed. And Ruslan has mentioned that the Kacher signal does NOT need to be very strong for the effect to happen. Both Akula and Ruslan have shown small 3mm arcs emitted from the Kacher on their videos.
I have shown previously that I can achieve up to up to 1cm arcs with my simple Kacher circuit. Which is about 10.000 volts.But, concerning the actual need to resonance between the two circuits, without it, I have almost nothing. So, in my opinion precise resonance between the two circuits is very important. And using a very strong and powerful Kacher circuit, like Geo is now showing, can endanger the delicate induction circuit components, as well as the Kacher circuit components.
I have yet to notice any ozone smell, when the circuits are connected up and working, up to now.
I have also shown in one of my video where I replicated Geo's form of wiring the device, and when the Kacher is not fired up, there is practically NO light coming from the bulbs, until the Kacher is also on, as can be seen in my video, below. This is all due to the type of wiring system used, not some other reason. https://youtu.be/NKJpPyMBxwI

Jeg · « **Reply #20672 on:** March 04, 2019, 04:19:44 PM »

Hi Nick
By diminishing I mean that hf oscillations are decreasing in amplitude when I am at resonance inside the current loop. Try higher frequencies than the one you normally tune and not lower. I tune to 25khz but I work close to 33khz. I also found an LOPT to test instead of katcher. I really like to get rid of it. Experimenting with ruslan is difficult without damaging something. It is better to experiment with smaller contraptions for certain tasks.

Hoppy · « **Reply #20673 on:** March 04, 2019, 04:29:01 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on March 04, 2019, 04:06:55 PM

T-1000: Good to see you still posting.
Although you may be right as to the weakness of the Kacher circuit's output. However, neither Akula or Ruslan have shown the type of HV arcs that you mention are needed. And Ruslan has mentioned that the Kacher signal does NOT need to be very strong for the effect to happen. Both Akula and Ruslan have shown small 3mm arcs emitted from the Kacher on their videos.

Agreed Nick. Thats a sure way to blow out the PP driver and as you say, we see no real evidence of strong HV breakout on Ruslan's or Akula's self running videos. The output bulbs can be extinguished by capacitive hand movements around the Kacher without a very strong Kacher, through HV interference on the PP. Anyway, if you do crank up the volts, make sure you put your shoes on.

NickZ · « **Reply #20674 on:** March 04, 2019, 05:15:35 PM »

Quote from: Jeg on March 04, 2019, 04:19:44 PM

Hi Nick
By diminishing I mean that hf oscillations are decreasing in amplitude when I am at resonance inside the current loop. Try higher frequencies than the one you normally tune and not lower. I tune to 25khz but I work close to 33khz. I also found an LOPT to test instead of katcher. I really like to get rid of it. Experimenting with ruslan is difficult without damaging something. It is better to experiment with smaller contraptions for certain tasks.

Well, what may be more important is not the amplitude per say. But, the effect noticed at the bulbs. If at the best resonant points you see a decrease in output at the bulbs, that is what to focus on. Not the scope measured voltages. As the voltage can go down as seen on the scope, yet the bulbs can brighten up. If the bulbs don't show any gain at resonance, something is not right. Although this may not make much sense, it is what I notice. Again, are you using a 37 to 40 meter long earth ground line connected to a copper rod in the ground?

I have spent the last year or so experimenting on the Dr. Stiffler devices. Because I wanted to learn more about what is needed to see any "extra energy" from the ambient while testing on smaller simpler devices. My conclusions are that resonance is very much needed, to achieve any positive results. Yet, his extra energy comes from the way that the Docs "diode loop" is designed, as the IN4140 diodes are switching diodes that can produce a similar response as how a transistor works to raise the voltages, and outputs. Yet, any extra energy observed may still come in from the surrounding ambient. But, that is still a tough thing to prove, as usually any "extra" energy may still come from the additional draw from the input source, instead of from the ambient.

AlienGrey · « **Reply #20675 on:** March 04, 2019, 08:45:43 PM »

Hi Re the catcher scenario, been doing some more experiments with it slung the 2SC2500 and protection diodes out and ran red coil inside copper 6 turn coil as per pic further back and the peak resonance is 5mhz
put it back in the Tesla coil sleave with its TC secondary and it drops to 2.8 Mhz both tests don with scope and SG drive.
Just how much capacitance and frequency response does a 2SC5200 have to pull it all down to 167khz ?

Nick z Adrian's Katcher (I presume it's him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNzFwHqI7fc

NickZ · « **Reply #20676 on:** March 05, 2019, 03:27:18 AM »

AG:
Not sure of just which circuit you are using. But, my Kacher runs between 900KHz, to 1.2MHz, and can be tuned up or down in frequency by adding or removing turns on the Kacher secondary, and/or using ferrite in the core.
I would like to build the controlable Stalker Kacher circuit shown in the diagram below.
I have replicated the simple Kacher design by Ruslan and is what I still have on hand. That was what was first used by Ruslan, then Stalker, and then Adrian, for their earlier versions of their self runners. I doubt that the controlable Kacher is more powerful, even though it is frequency and duty cycle controllable. It can also be run from the 28t coil, and rectified, then sent to the Kacher input.

AlienGrey · « **Reply #20677 on:** March 05, 2019, 07:44:46 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on March 05, 2019, 03:27:18 AM

AG:
Not sure of just which circuit you are using. But, my Kacher runs between 900KHz, to 1.2MHz, and can be tuned up or down in frequency by adding or removing turns on the Kacher secondary, and/or using ferrite in the core.
I would like to build the controlable Stalker Kacher circuit shown in the diagram below.
I have replicated the simple Kacher design by Ruslan and is what I still have on hand. That was what was first used by Ruslan, then Stalker, and then Adrian, for their earlier versions of their self-runners. I doubt that the controllable Kacher is more powerful, even though it is frequency and duty cycle controllable. It can also be run from the 28t coil, and rectified, then sent to the Kacher input. As it pumps the Katcher far more efficiently

The tests I have been doing are because I wanted to show how unstable the high voltage 'feedback' winding is when connected to the 2SC2500 transistor base as a self-energized oscillator, the 'earthy' end has to go to earth via a none return diode and needs locking to a position in the push-pull cycle the high voltage must be + positively charged that's common knowledge amongst the Lithuanian 'guys' as 'ac' EHT does nothing the locking 'HF' oscillation appears to be the magnification factor and yet in some circuits is only 3 times and talks about harmonics too many unsolved secrets at the moment I do feel 'color' is the only one giving answers. But if we keep on winding him up he will just give up on us and that would be unfortunate. The only control circuit I know that works is the Sergey design.

NickZ · « **Reply #20678 on:** March 05, 2019, 02:11:01 PM »

AG: I don't understand what it is that you are trying to show, or prove. But, if you think that color is the only one giving answers, then why don't you just ask him.
I have explained what I have done and have shown in my videos. But, as I don't follow the Sergey design, I can't understand what you mean about this feed back thing that you mention. I see no feed back path or circuit on the above diagram that you posted.
I stick with the Stalker diagrams and designs, instead.

T-1000 · « **Reply #20679 on:** March 05, 2019, 02:19:40 PM »

NickZ,

The akula's controllable katcher with 100-150V on Tesla coil primary was used in latest Geo videos. The only critical point there is voltage divider on transistor base which is limiting max voltage to safe range.
So it doesn't go in smoke.

Obviously we need quite range of HV depending on earth/air conditions for ionisation. Without it there will be no effect.

And the positive high voltage need to be on grenade so circuits showing direct ground connection from it are killing voltage.

Cheers!

AlienGrey · « **Reply #20680 on:** March 05, 2019, 02:57:29 PM »

Quote from: T-1000 on March 05, 2019, 02:19:40 PM

NickZ,

The akula's controllable katcher with 100-150V on Tesla coil primary was used in latest Geo videos. The only critical point there is voltage divider on transistor base which is limiting max voltage to safe range.
So it doesn't go in smoke.
Obviously we need quite range of HV depending on earth/air conditions for ionisation. Without it there will be no effect.
And the positive high voltage need to be on grenade so circuits showing direct ground connection from it are killing voltage.

Cheers!

yes ! if you include a very small value resistor in the MOS-fet sauce the voltage will increase with the load
if a buffer transistor is included and fed back into the 8pin driver chip pin 3 then a form of protection could be included.

Nick the Sergey circuit uses an onboard 1.5 MHz OSC it doesn't suffer from such problems as microphonic transients
blowing the output transistor into oblivion.

Also, one of Adrian's photo's shows a metallic copper clad board under his grenade supposedly for collecting ions.

NickZ · « **Reply #20681 on:** March 05, 2019, 02:57:35 PM »

T: So, you take 150v from the grenade to the Kacher input, then need to lower that voltage. What is the point?One of the cheap AC to DC converters or DC to DC units, can reduce and control the input voltage to the Kacher circuit, once it is rectified from the 28 t coil, or from the batteries, to any voltage needed. Which is what is shown on Ruslan's video. As it can not really handle 150v, even close to it. I have burnt Kacher circuit components by providing only 30 to 40 volts, as it's not design to handle that much juice, unless it's further modified. Nor is that much voltage really needed, according to Ruslan. Ruslan, Stalker and Adrian, have shown self runners running from 12v circuits, and able to produce the needed effect on the grenade. So, is that not enough to start with, to ionize the air?
You have not mentioned what happened with the simpler Akula suggestion to use a spark gap circuit, instead.
So, did you do that, and if so what did you find?
I could never get 150v from my grenade's output, with a full load of 400w to 600w bulbs, after being rectified by the full bridge, but only less than about 60 to 80v, instead.

I agree that the earth ground when connected to the wrong place can kill the output. But, I don't know if the air is really needing to be ionized, as there is good output and clean sine waves from the Kacher running on just a 24v input. And Akula, Ruslan and others have shown that even the 12v circuits could be made to self run. IF true.
What is the point of ionizing the air, and spewing smelly ozone like an old TV in bad shape?

T-1000 · « **Reply #20682 on:** March 05, 2019, 06:42:18 PM »

NickZ,

The akula variant had variable voltage from secondary winding on yoke. Which was rectified and fed to Tesla primary coil. Definitely not 12 or 24 volts there. Again, for higher Tesla coil output voltage there are only 2 options. Make secondary coil longer and lower frequency plus add delay when you want chop off sine on peak or raise primary coil voltage to keep it responsive to same spec we are doing with nanosecond pulse in Dally or latest Ruslan circuits.
So that is up to you...

Cheers!

NickZ · « **Reply #20683 on:** March 05, 2019, 07:37:45 PM »

We don't know the actual voltages used by Akula provided by the grenade output to the input to the kacher's input. What we can see it a small 3mm sparks at the ferrite rod. Probably not even as high an output as what I see using 24v input to my Kacher circuit. I also don't see any ionization, or even much of a streamer coming off of the antenna coil on Akula's second device, or self arcing.
The purpose of the kacher is to disrupt, and is not additive to the voltage at the grenade's output.
So, how much juice is enough to provide for this disruption, and what can be considered excessive, or too much?

Hoppy · « **Reply #20684 on:** March 05, 2019, 07:54:36 PM »

Quote from: NickZ on March 05, 2019, 07:37:45 PM

We don't know the actual voltages used by Akula provided by the grenade output to the input to the kacher's input. What we can see it a small 3mm sparks at the ferrite rod. Probably not even as high an output as what I see using 24v input to my Kacher circuit. I also don't see any ionization, or even much of a streamer coming off of the antenna coil on Akula's second device, or self arcing.
The purpose of the kacher is to disrupt, and is not additive to the voltage at the grenade's output.
So, how much juice is enough to provide for this disruption, and what can be considered excessive, or too much?

Good questions Nick! However, I doubt that anyone on this thread can answer those questions with confidence based on the experience of having achieved the building of a true self-running device.

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