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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11719135 times)

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20625 on: February 22, 2019, 08:41:02 PM »
Hi Jeg. :) Yes, if the two caps are the same capacitance value, and the output
cap end voltage exceeds the initial input cap start voltage, then the output cap
has more energy stored on it than you started out with on the input cap.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20626 on: February 22, 2019, 08:54:32 PM »
CapIn/CapOut is very handy in some cases. About the thermal video I told you about, I never recorded it because I was disappointed about the results. I was fooled with the rms voltage that my Rigol had calculated. It was giving me something like 200W knowing resistance, but water heating showed me something like 14W.   
Nice method though but not accurate at low power systems

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20627 on: February 22, 2019, 09:01:51 PM »
Hi Jeg. Yes, I agree, using the cap in/cap out energy comparison is a very good approach to use.

Thanks for the update on the heat test. I was wondering how you made out with that test. I think it's not that
the scope was reading/calculating the RMS voltage incorrectly, assuming everything was set correctly, but what
it was reading was not an appropriate reading to use for your actual load power measurement in that setup. 



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20628 on: February 22, 2019, 09:04:15 PM »
Yes, plus the inductance that my resistive load had..
In any case I 'll find the right moment for recording the heating method.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20629 on: February 22, 2019, 10:31:34 PM »
Hi Jeg. I see. Yes the heat measurement method you tried may come in handy as well.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20630 on: February 23, 2019, 12:27:17 PM »
Coil resonance :)
« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 02:59:25 PM by r2fpl »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20631 on: February 23, 2019, 02:09:35 PM »
   It still has not been proven that the Earth ground line is actually allowing any juice to flow INTO the device.
Which I still doubt, as mentioned as being a pump mechanism.
   As we can see in Akula's first self runner, it worked without a ground. Yet the ground helps in some way, and improve the output.But, that does not mean that the the ground is the source of any extra energy seen at the bulbs. As the ground Earth only can provide for 1v, or so. Not the 4000w that we see in Ruslan's device.   So, can someone provide some actual proof, concerning the purpose and action of the ground line.   Not just guesses like Wesley and color are coming up with, without ever building a self runner.
   It does not really matter what the input to output energy relation is, if the device won't self run. Nor has it been proven that you need to first see OU, for self running to be observed. Nor has OU ever been shown by anyone here, without instrument error, etz...   It has been shown that a virtual ground connected to a car battery will also work, although not as well.
   It's not that there is no one building anything. We are stuck because no one here has achieved anything by the provided information, up to now. And most guys are just guessing at what is really needed, or where we all go wrong.   We will never be able to figure this out, by guessing, without hand on tests.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20632 on: February 23, 2019, 02:28:40 PM »
   It still has not been proven that the Earth ground line is actually allowing any juice to flow INTO the device.
Which I still doubt, as mentioned as being a pump mechanism.
   As we can see in Akula's first self runner, it worked without a ground. Yet the ground helps in some way, and improve the output.But, that does not mean that the the ground is the source of any extra energy seen at the bulbs. As the ground Earth only can provide for 1v, or so. Not the 4000w that we see in Ruslan's device.   So, can someone provide some actual proof, concerning the purpose and action of the ground line.   Not just guesses like Wesley and color are coming up with, without ever building a self runner.
   It does not really matter what the input to output energy relation is, if the device won't self run. Nor has it been proven that you need to first see OU, for self-running to be observed. Nor has OU ever been shown by anyone here, without instrument error, etz...   It has been shown that a virtual ground connected to a car battery will also work, although not as well.
   It's not that there is no one building anything. We are stuck because no one here has achieved anything by the provided information, up to now. And most guys are just guessing at what is really needed, or where we all go wrong.   We will never be able to figure this out, by guessing, without hands-on tests.
Nick Hi, It would be interesting what you base this hypothesis on without A/. knowing how far you have actually got and what information you are actually basing it on and if you are using it or no and if it is fact or not and B/. and It appears everyone who has abandoned the thread do we take it they have just abandoned all. C/. which side of the fence do you put dear old Wesley on  'bless him'. :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20633 on: February 23, 2019, 02:50:54 PM »
     On the side of the fence showing links and guesses, and pretending to know how things work, while building nothing to prove his point. Same as color. 
    I base what I see from more than a couple of years of hands on tests and experiments on the Ruslan/Stalker type of devices.
    I trust Tesla, and his free energy concepts. And my own experiments, up to now. I also trust itsu, Geo, Jeg, and some others that have actually built up these contraptions, and have shown their work. None of us are trying to lie or confuse, but are truly seeking the truth in our own way.
 
   AG: I have shown what I've come up with, which you were "amazed" by.  Remember?  I am not done with this yet, and still have a lot more tests to run. But, I don't use the diagram that you just posted above, as that is not a self runner, nor does Akula, Ruslan, nor Stalker use that system, as it has not been shown to self run, as far as I'm aware.   
   You can connect a bulb to just a grid's positive line, and the other end of the bulb to the earth ground, and light the bulb, but it won't self run, either.   
   There may be more than one way to skin the cat, but you need to find that cat, first.    I realize that words are cheap, but I base what I say on what I observe. Not trying to convince anyone to follow, just posting my findings.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 05:31:16 PM by NickZ »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20634 on: February 23, 2019, 07:43:12 PM »
.I have a few large cats and I don't intend on skinning any of them!
« Last Edit: February 24, 2019, 12:24:25 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20635 on: February 23, 2019, 10:16:51 PM »
well Nick
Honestly comparing the new kid to Wesley ?? people who read here for the first time would not understand your comment [which I "almost get" knowing what you mean]  Wesley has done more experimenting and helping and sharing here than almost any other member.thousands of hours ...plane trips... experiments ...etc etc .he lends equipment to other open source experimenters...
and to write his name in the same sentence as ........the new kid !!

Yeesh thats a double Yeesh  and to be absolutely clear ,NOBODY is sitting on their hands here... everyone keeps busy ! ...but      everyone  still seeks the self runner .the only proof at this point.
EDIT to Nick below ,not certain about this Lying claim/stuff
HOWEVER of course there will be experiments ,Wesley always does !!

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« Reply #20636 on: February 23, 2019, 11:03:22 PM »
   Ramset:
   That may be true, but you are not a newby here, nor are most of the other guys posting here, and I think that you guys know just what I mean. Including the new kid on the block, who is not so new here. 
   As you know, I would rather talk about electronic circuitry, as that's why I'm here. But, I feel that someone who has not built up what they are preaching about, and pretending to know how it all works, is not a credible source of information. And can be a negative influence on this thread. Be it a new comer, or and old fogy like me.  It's the I know more than you attitude, that I'm referring to.
   In any case I will try to not lump anyone together with anyone else. However, it would be best if people show some proof, of their pet theories, sometimes.
  I know that you are always looking at the positive side of things. Thanks for that.

   Wesley after many many long essay sized texts and endless links, has not shown any tests or done experiments, except for lighting an led bulb on a block of graphite from an unknown HV source. And repeatedly mentioning that is how Kapanadze's self runner works. Which is to say, that TK is lying, and hiding the fake source of extra energy coming from a wireless source, instead.    I could say that the sky is really green, not blue, would you believe it?
    NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20637 on: February 24, 2019, 02:31:53 PM »
Chet
Wesley is well known to us and doesn't need support of any kind. His hard work can be seen from miles. If someone disagrees with his beliefs, that doesn't diminish Wesley's efforts. I am sure that all healthy minds inside here can distinguish that.

In the subject now. Guys, I feel that Chris Sh. was right from the start. Partnered coils do have secrets in their operation. Bucking fields now look like a possible solution to me when OU is the quest. A sub pressure lays exactly there, in the middle. hmm... to be continued.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20638 on: February 24, 2019, 02:35:39 PM »
Jeg  well hopefully the secrets will be shared and experiments too.not like in the past where 30 something replications here went nowhere except to flame wars and threats [for years and years]. even the forum was hacked here by associates of person you mention [he said he did not do it personally just came along for the ride....
i guess like the driver at a bank heist /break in ... ??
all is documented here at the forum including accusations against Stefan...
please do not bring back more fights and accusations here from that guy ,this is an open source forum with a very deep talent pool ...just experiments will do !  !if he decides to share here something which he has not shared yet [a working claim which can be replicated by the dozens of builders here ??


respectfully Chet K

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20639 on: February 24, 2019, 03:20:43 PM »
Chet
I am here with only one purpose in mind. And this is to gain technical knowledge helping me to do my hobby. All the rest is not for me. But if you like my opinion, this area of research attracts only weirdo people (including me ;D). People who like exploration past the ''red'' line. So I am not getting easily involved in personal level with others. Chris left great work behind and this is enough for me.
Regards