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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11716055 times)

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20610 on: February 20, 2019, 01:40:06 PM »
Nick I respect your experiments here and willingness to do them
But what would you call this latest example from color ?
if you consider this behavior no Problem here or are blaming Wesley for that ["following him around"??
and to be clear there have definitely been others who tried to take over and were
removed ,and some did things which got them banned ...The beetlejuice [Bewuz ??] guy solar lab pointed to made horrific posts and threats behind the scenes here ,as well as other things.,but he was a dream compared to others.and honestly without knowing what he did ,it seems odd to viewers why he was removed by Stefan

I agree there are separate threads ,and it needs to flow smoothly BUT I have to say I find claims of censorship laughable
when all a member has to do is start their own topic .unless of course they break Stefan's rules [color has broken many and been warned in his thread many times [TOS postings],but still he is here ,I hope he calms down .
many have asked Wesley for help explaining Slavic languages in videos ..and many here still love that about Wesley as well as his investigations .
Bill {pirate] seems gone ,he did moderate here years back in TK section
I did try to get him to come back ,I think he would rather make an appointment to have his finger nails removed.
Stefan is having hard times in his life ATM the last thing he needs is to babysit this stuff ,but it is important to him. Policing ourselves and being responsible to our host and his limited time  [getting after abusers like Color or getting them to be respectful of our host or ??

sorry for the Vent...One thing I would love to read here are the things which were cleared up by color ,another thing I am going over to his topic to ask him

where can we go to see these many OU devices he has in his "Cafe" Maybe we chip in and buy one from him and send it to NIck or ??
back to work...........
How about dare I say it Wesley contacting us on secret squirrel smoke signal NA device and slip build instructions under the door to trusted members, that way? Good idea?  :o

ramset

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« Reply #20611 on: February 20, 2019, 02:27:58 PM »
well thats why we stick together ...men of like mind ..working sometimes separately but always together in purpose [open source],when a true breakthru occurs.
all aboard ...they tell us there's a planet to save !!
and its Ours.
 

AlienGrey

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« Reply #20612 on: February 20, 2019, 11:32:45 PM »
A strange wave from experimentation.

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20613 on: February 21, 2019, 09:57:04 AM »
Hi AG.
Nothing special here for me. If energy gain is possible then for sure it has to be searched in transition times. It is the only moment that there is a chance for braking proportionality in change between electrical values. Once the circuit finds its balance then welcome again to conventionality.  ;)


 
     

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20614 on: February 21, 2019, 10:20:55 AM »
Hi AG.
Nothing special here for me. If energy gain is possible then for sure it has to be searched in transition times. It is the only moment that there is a chance for braking proportionality in change between electrical values. Once the circuit finds its balance then welcome again to conventionality.  ;)
Well, what is so-called zero-point energy? at Absolute Zero when everything stops even in outer space vacuum we don't see the fabric of space fraying at the edges there is dark matter black holes and ET flying about! and they are or use energy to do what they do, charged particles to be exact.

How do you think ET gets here and how do they manage to travel between dimensions and we can't or are we that far gone? How is the best way to make someone self consciously feer being different by making reality a lie to the many!

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20615 on: February 22, 2019, 09:50:35 AM »
Hi AG and all
Lets say we have a transformer with a primary and a secondary. We spend an amount of energy X=1 across the input. We take at the output an amount of 0.9 due to losses. What if we add both of the prim. and sec. energies over the same load. Won't this be an OU action? We spend 1 and we have 1.9 across the load...
 Just wondering.. :o

AlienGrey

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« Reply #20616 on: February 22, 2019, 04:07:26 PM »
Hi AG and all
Let's say we have a transformer with a primary and a secondary. We spend an amount of energy X=1 across the input. We take at the output an amount of 0.9 due to losses. What if we add both of the prim. and sec. energies over the same load. Won't this be an OU action? We spend 1 and we have 1.9 across the load...
 Just wondering.. :o
Only 'if' we could walk on water, ;D, if you remove the input power the power at the secondary will also disappear.
In truth, most of the windings in the device are not tuned and are saturated in 'lose' so I doubt you would get anywhere near a 0.9 efficiency.

Jeg

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« Reply #20617 on: February 22, 2019, 04:46:12 PM »
I doubt you would get anywhere near a 0.9 efficiency.

This is not quite true. At high power in iron transformers you can go at high efficiency levels close to 90%. But also by imposition I managed to go close to 1. See again my push pull device in my channel. Anyway. I have invented a new method for measurements. I'll call it CapIn/CapOut technique. I use two identical caps one for input and one for output. I charge the input cap from a battery and I discharge it through the circuit I am measuring. After I measure the voltage level of my output cap and here it is. If the output cap is at higher potential than the used input potential then something is going on. If not then I just move on without any doubts.

     

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20618 on: February 22, 2019, 04:56:11 PM »
Yes, every transformer is theoretically 200% efficient.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20619 on: February 22, 2019, 05:20:25 PM »
Yes, every transformer is theoretically 200% efficient.

If you make work with your primary charges instead of wasting them perhaps it is the basis behind everything here. 

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« Reply #20620 on: February 22, 2019, 05:49:04 PM »
sounds like a phase shift thing if L and C have the same impedance
Ive just been setting up a ferrite toroid-like that this afternoon.
The drive into a resistive load is impressive at resonance so is the current

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20621 on: February 22, 2019, 05:56:11 PM »
Yes, every transformer is theoretically 200% efficient.
Oh yes?  how does that work then?

Do Tell !

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20622 on: February 22, 2019, 08:08:51 PM »
This is not quite true. At high power in iron transformers you can go at high efficiency levels close to 90%. But also by imposition I managed to go close to 1. See again my push pull device in my channel. Anyway. I have invented a new method for measurements. I'll call it CapIn/CapOut technique. I use two identical caps one for input and one for output. I charge the input cap from a battery and I discharge it through the circuit I am measuring. After I measure the voltage level of my output cap and here it is. If the output cap is at higher potential than the used input potential then something is going on. If not then I just move on without any doubts.


Hi Jeg. You did not 'invent' that. Such a method of comparing capacitor energy has been suggested
in these forums before. ;)

If you are comparing input and output capacitor voltages as you describe in your comment, that will be incorrect.
You must compare input capacitor energy loss to output capacitor energy gain, not compare cap voltages!

For example, let's say you are using two 100uF caps.
Input cap is charged to 12 Volts when starting. Output cap is at 0 Volts
When finished, input cap measures 6 Volts and the output cap measures 8 Volts.
Is this indicating over unity? The answer is No!

100uF cap at 12V is storing 7.2mJ
100uF cap at 6 Volts has 1.8mJ remaining.
Energy used at input is 7.2mJ - 1.8mJ = 5.4mJ
Output cap is 100uF at 8 Volts = 3.2mJ
The circuit used 5.4mJ, and the output cap ony gained 3.2mJ.

Also, transofrmers are of course not greater than 100% efficient. If they were,
all anyone would have to do is use a transformer and they would have COP > 1.
Which is not the case at all. :)



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20623 on: February 22, 2019, 08:18:54 PM »
If you make work with your primary charges instead of wasting them perhaps it is the basis behind everything here.

Hi Jeg. Common misconception here, it seems. To have 'over unity', the output
energy delivered to a load or storage capacitor of a circuit must be greater than the input energy
that was 'consumed'. You have to think in terms of energy input and energy 'consumption', not
in terms of currents or charges or that sort of thing.

If you put a load in series with the primary of a transformer, the primary winding and
the load will have a common current through them, but when you start looking at energy
'consumption'
, then you will see what the problem is. Same current through them, but the AC voltage
divides between them. There is less power input to the transformer primary winding, since the voltage
across the transformer has dropped due to the voltage drop across the load which is in series with the primary winding.
You can't fool nature. :)



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20624 on: February 22, 2019, 08:36:39 PM »
Hi Void
At least you could let me a day believing it was told for first time :D

Of course you are right about measuring energy instead of voltage. I was thinking my systems in which I use high side switching and the input cap goes up to zero volts. But again, If I start with a cap at 24v and I take for example 26V at the output, no matter how much left at the input cap then, we have something I guess.