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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11719460 times)

SolarLab

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20160 on: January 06, 2019, 07:15:29 PM »
No need to crash to perform fundamental experiments.

Exp #1: Just take a bowl of water and set it on the front seat beside you; then drive around for a while!

Exp #2: Slip the clutch a bit - when you achieve resonance - stop slipping the clutch - the bowl will continue
to empty itself. Then, look in rear view mirror and say - boy was that a stupid thing to do! 
    Kids loved it - wife, not so much!   

Or Not?   ;D   Sometimes you can "rock [resonate]" your way out of the mud or snow or sand (not so much)!

Scores of examples: {fast dv/dt} driving a nail, bullet, {not so fast dv/dt} anti-lock brakes, putting your cup down....

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20161 on: January 06, 2019, 08:27:23 PM »
Void or anyone else some help please.
Yellow waveform is an output of a circuit i am playing with. It is across a 2,375 Ohm wattage resistance. I'd like to calculate the wattade across the load.  I see a  VrmsP of 9.13V but i don't know what "P" at the end stands for. 9.13/2.375= 3.84A X 9.13V = 35 Watt?

Thanks in advance

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20162 on: January 06, 2019, 08:50:31 PM »


Hi Jeg,

i am sure your Rigol manual will describe VrmsP somewhere.

But a quick google search shows something like this:
"The rms value of the phase voltage"

https://books.google.nl/books?id=4jZ7DwAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA21&lpg=SA4-PA21&dq=Vrms+VrmsP&source=bl&ots=-gnBfsGb_P&sig=F8VUNoeLJ3nsLNgxo43XWLPEBEI&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU1IrW9NnfAhUQaVAKHfFWB7sQ6AEwAHoECAUQAQ#v=onepage&q=Vrms%20VrmsP&f=false

Has to do with harmonics etc. it seems.

Anyway, why not use Vrms (which i think is hidden underneat the 15Khz square wave signal symbol top right corner)
which seems to me to be 9.05V.

Then the power across the load (really 2.375 Ohm??) would be P=U²/R = 9.05²/2.375 = 34.48W.

Itsu



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20163 on: January 06, 2019, 08:58:31 PM »
Thanks a lot Itsu. I should read Rigol's manual. ;)

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20164 on: January 06, 2019, 09:54:51 PM »
Hi Jeg, Not sure about the rmsP, but in general if you have an assymetrical waveform the RMS value
indicated on a scope can potentially be very misleading, especially if the current is rectified and only conducting
during part of that voltage waveform. The scope RMS voltage reading in such a case would not be
accurate, for example. Use the RMS reading from a scope with much caution. The RMS reading from a scope
on very symmetrical sinewaves should normally be more accurate, but even then you have to be careful depending
on the actual circuit setup.


itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20165 on: January 07, 2019, 10:57:46 AM »

For the record, VrmsP on Rigol scopes means Vrms across 1 period (cycle), so NOT the "rms value of the phase voltage"
i mentioned above (thats another animal).

Most scopes call it CycVrms or Vrms cycle.

Normally used Vrms is taken from the whole display/record of the scope.

Seems the HELP function on the Rigol scope will show this info, not the manual.

Itsu

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20166 on: January 07, 2019, 11:19:12 AM »
Thanks again guys, indeed the help menu of rigol is very helpfull. I have the tendency to forget about it :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20167 on: January 08, 2019, 09:03:33 AM »

F6FLT

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20168 on: January 08, 2019, 10:28:26 AM »
...https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/64e4/8cc38d68decf787fda1519db1f51f25a13a2.pdf

Interesting paper but if we do the math, we understand why electron inertia is possibly negligible.
Imagine a 1A current in a circuit, this means 1 Coulomb/second, i.e 6 250 000 000 000 000 000 electrons/s. This number seems enormous but if you calculate the mass passing each second, the electron mass being 9.11x10-31Kg, it is only 0,00000000000569375 Kg/s.

Could this extremely weak mass have an effect on acceleration? I had recently calculated the electrons acceleration in a CRT, say V=30 KV and d=40 cm between cathode and anode:
E= 30/0.4 = 75 KV/m,  F = m*a = q*E => a = q*E/m
a = 1,6 * 10^-19 * 75 * 10^3 / 9,1 × 10−31
a = 13 186 813 186 813 186 m/s²: this is a so tremendous acceleration that it's obvious we have to re-calculate using relativistic corrections.

But in a conductor where the electron drift velocity is extremely slow (<< 1mm/s), the acceleration should be negligible.
Now we must not forget that the electron drift velocity is only an average, there are many collisions in the metal lattice that stop the electron and huge accelerations in between. So I have not the definite answer.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20169 on: January 08, 2019, 02:41:59 PM »
Interesting paper but if we do the math, we understand why electron inertia is possibly negligible.
Imagine a 1A current in a circuit, this means 1 Coulomb/second, i.e 6 250 000 000 000 000 000 electrons/s. This number seems enormous but if you calculate the mass passing each second, the electron mass being 9.11x10-31Kg, it is only 0,00000000000569375 Kg/s.

Could this extremely weak mass have an effect on acceleration? I had recently calculated the electrons acceleration in a CRT, say V=30 KV and d=40 cm between cathode and anode:
E= 30/0.4 = 75 KV/m,  F = m*a = q*E => a = q*E/m
a = 1,6 * 10^-19 * 75 * 10^3 / 9,1 × 10−31
a = 13 186 813 186 813 186 m/s²: this is a so tremendous acceleration that it's obvious we have to re-calculate using relativistic corrections.

But in a conductor where the electron drift velocity is extremely slow (<< 1mm/s), the acceleration should be negligible.
Now we must not forget that the electron drift velocity is only an average, there are many collisions in the metal lattice that stop the electron and huge accelerations in between. So I have not the definite answer.

I don't think even particle physicists and quantum physicists agree on material particles and if light travels or not

SolarLab

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20170 on: January 08, 2019, 03:42:23 PM »
Excellent discussion - good paper - thanks;

IMHO

These fellows (physists) should take up smoking cigars - then; on a calm day with the sun
shining; watch the smoke (the field), composed of carbon atoms (the particles) as it rises
from the lit end and swirles as waves in the air (the aether). Then, take a puff and blow a
"smoke ring," or a direct full stream (the directed, fast moving, dense, wave field of particles).

Particles in a cloud field are "moving along" because of a potential difference (not voltage in
this case, but air pressure). 

Heat, however, has charged the carbon particles and thus they adhere to things and build up
over time; like car windows or vents in a smoking lounge at an airport (yuk).

It encompasses all three: particles, waves and fields - so you don't need to discuss the
symantics, just define each clearly. Then just sit back and have a fine cigar with a good
Cognac! They will email your Nobel medal...  :)   [Hey, get your physics from an engineer]

Just my 'observed opinion' but it works for me! And, yes, I smoke cigars and sip cognac...
Naw, too simple - you won't get any funding for that explanation...  :(   


color

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20171 on: January 09, 2019, 03:50:13 AM »
The 2010 Nobel Prize in Physics is Graphene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene
Graphene has an electrical conductivity 100 times better than copper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismuth
Bismuth is the most efficient diamagnetic substance metal on the planet.
By making two materials and magnesium capacitors, it seems that when Tesla works, excess energy is generated.

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20172 on: January 09, 2019, 10:04:35 AM »
Hi to all, I recently had an idea of linking the original Katcher device with the TL494  device as many of the TK and Ruslan devices
refer to a 1 - 3 phase lock, to do this I played around with the 494 circuits and found I could drive the device directly with my signal
generator directly with a mear 5v 50/50 EW wave unfortunately at 12 volt supply the frequency range is only 5khz to a maximum
of 30khz before it tails off. So if it's a 3 times wave for the Mustach wave how on earth do you sink a 30 khz wave with a 1.8mhz
katcher frequency? If the TL494 has a 30kz max then wouldn't the Katcher have to be in the kHz audible range in order to be a
longitudinal wave would you need to redesign the whole dam thing.

If anyone is interested pin 5 of the 494 will drive directly and 15 volts might be a better supply voltage.
Also at some frequencies, a Tesla coil with a decent top load produces scalar waves making a note of the frequencies
might well be important to tuning into with another device and looking into.

SolarLab

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20173 on: January 09, 2019, 07:33:25 PM »
Hi to all, I recently had an idea of linking the original Katcher device with the TL494  device as many of the TK and Ruslan devices
refer to a 1 - 3 phase lock, to do this I played around with the 494 circuits and found I could drive the device directly with my signal
generator directly with a mear 5v 50/50 EW wave unfortunately at 12 volt supply the frequency range is only 5khz to a maximum
of 30khz before it tails off. So if it's a 3 times wave for the Mustach wave how on earth do you sink a 30 khz wave with a 1.8mhz
katcher frequency? If the TL494 has a 30kz max then wouldn't the Katcher have to be in the kHz audible range in order to be a
longitudinal wave would you need to redesign the whole dam thing.

If anyone is interested pin 5 of the 494 will drive directly and 15 volts might be a better supply voltage.
Also at some frequencies, a Tesla coil with a decent top load produces scalar waves making a note of the frequencies
might well be important to tuning into with another device and looking into.

 AlienGray,

Just another idea for you.

A couple of these (AWGens):

https://www.amazon.com/Akozon-Generator-Precision-Dual-Channel-Arbitrary/dp/B07G875LRD/ref=sr_1_1?m=A3H0LACWKJ270E&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1547056693&sr=1-1&keywords=dds

$30 US for (probably) a 15MHz dual channel [Arbitrary Waveform Generator] - burn 'em and you don't cry too much! Haven't tried these yet however - just ordered two - although have used a few PCB No Name types with good results.
 NOTE: Sorry but I just bought the last 3 this fellow had (total 5). Price/performance was too good to let it go! If you need one PM me..

Driving something similar to this circuit:
https://vk.com/doc442363570_487639626

or this circuit:
https://vk.com/doc442363570_488467031 

Theory here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0Ud8MyPx7hOKlWg66AcDnQ

You might already have the FETs.

Note: the TI454 osc is not that fast. Some other types here:
Synchronous Dual Mode Phase Modulated Full Bridge Controllers
https://www.analog.com/en/products/ltc3722.html#product-overview

https://www.analog.com/en/products/power-management/power-control/pwm-controllers.html
https://www.analog.com/en/parametricsearch/11481

Looks like the fastest OSC for these type of devices might be 1.0 MHz.

Good luck...
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 09:49:08 PM by SolarLab »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20174 on: January 09, 2019, 08:46:53 PM »
Hi.
I use Google Translator.
I only understand your message 90%.
What I understand is that the TL494 has a maximum frequency of 400khz.
Combining 74HC14 with TL494, we know that Mhz is obtained.
I do not have equipment to test, so I will upload a video to refer to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SiXj_eK3oE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odSqYvNyPLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0M8VcWPfH8
Ruslan also completed his own circuit based on this schematic.
The trap is not in the circuit,
The traps are in a special combination of diodes and kacher, yoke transformer primary coils.
I am trying to find this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV3posVDqJs