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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718299 times)

Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20130 on: January 04, 2019, 09:44:47 AM »

Maybe V8karlo can quantify what his test results show as a good portion of energy returned to source?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20131 on: January 04, 2019, 12:18:21 PM »
The problem with such schemes is any energy returned to the battery will always be
minus the losses of the PWM / Oscillator circuitry and other circuit components
such as any diodes used, and any loads. There are a lot of losses there just to light the bulb.

Now if you just connect a 12V light bulb up to a 12V battery directly, the main losses
are the batttery's internal resistance. You will be close to 100% efficiency if you ignore
the fact that typical batteries do not have a 100% discharge efficiency. 

Some DC to DC converters have an efficiency in the mid to high 90's at low power output,
so a very efficiently designed DC to DC converter is still not even going to be as efficient
as connecting a 12V bulb directly to a 12V battery.

Unless a scheme has a way of drawing energy into the system from external to the system,
such schemes are just not going to be as efficient as powering a bulb directly. If you think in terms
of energy losses in circuits and other components between the battery and bulb, it should be clear
that this type of approach is flawed from the start. So, if you want to get around this, you need to
figure out how to pull in extra energy from outside the system. This is why people start looking at tesla
coils with earth ground connections and spark gaps and that sort of thing. We can fool our self easily enough,
but we can't fool nature. However, nature may hold some secrets yet that we can take advantage of if we can
find and take advantage of those secrets. :) How can we draw in extra energy from outside the system?
That is the issue to focus on IMO.


Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20132 on: January 04, 2019, 12:47:38 PM »
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Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20133 on: January 04, 2019, 12:58:30 PM »
The problem with such schemes is any energy returned to the battery will always be
minus the losses of the PWM / Oscillator circuitry and other circuit components
such as any diodes used, and any loads. There are a lot of losses there just to light the bulb.

Now if you just connect a 12V light bulb up to a 12V battery directly, the main losses
are the batttery's internal resistance. You will be close to 100% efficiency if you ignore
the fact that typical batteries do not have a 100% discharge efficiency. 

Some DC to DC converters have an efficiency in the mid to high 90's at low power output,
so a very efficiently designed DC to DC converter is still not even going to be as efficient
as connecting a 12V bulb directly to a 12V battery.

Unless a scheme has a way of drawing energy into the system from external to the system,
such schemes are just not going to be as efficient as powering a bulb directly. If you think in terms
of energy losses in circuits and other components between the battery and bulb, it should be clear
that this type of approach is flawed from the start. So, if you want to get around this, you need to
figure out how to pull in extra energy from outside the system. This is why people start looking at tesla
coils with earth ground connections and spark gaps and that sort of thing. We can fool our self easily enough,
but we can't fool nature. However, nature may hold some secrets yet that we can take advantage of if we can
find and take advantage of those secrets. :) How can we draw in extra energy from outside the system?
That is the issue to focus on IMO.

Can negative voltage be thought of like energy coming at me? That is what it means to me anyway. So can I take the backEMF from a coil and redirect that back into battery?

What if I charge a cap with an NST that lets only negative wave into the cap? So I am pulling from the cap plate. Then on the other side I have load and ground. Will the ground supply the other plate?

seychelles

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20134 on: January 04, 2019, 01:04:36 PM »
If i could get access with an AI computer and give it this crop circle
i can guaranty that it will come up with a free energy circuit. 

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20135 on: January 04, 2019, 01:27:47 PM »


Hoppy,

yes, that could be, therefor any input from him would be appreciated.


Void,

yeah, if you include the TL494 and IR2113 power, like it should.
Its also like you mentioned, with feedback the input goes up big time.

Itsu
If you look at Smith's device now they all use a neon zener efect regulator but the problem is it doesn't bottom rail
Tesla used magnet quenched spark gap if you want the same effect your talking charged carrier rise time 10-9 or your wasting your time.

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20136 on: January 04, 2019, 01:32:29 PM »
If i could get access with an AI computer and give it this crop circle
i can guaranty that it will come up with a free energy circuit.
Look at the links between the circles THEY SCREW UP there  ;D  ask em to show you the ropes next time

Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20137 on: January 04, 2019, 01:50:37 PM »
If i could get access with an AI computer and give it this crop circle
i can guaranty that it will come up with a free energy circuit.

Isn't that a magnifying transmitter in the picture? Showing how the energy is amplified?

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20138 on: January 04, 2019, 04:57:56 PM »
Can negative voltage be thought of like energy coming at me? That is what it means to me anyway. So can I take the backEMF from a coil and redirect that back into battery?
What if I charge a cap with an NST that lets only negative wave into the cap? So I am pulling from the cap plate. Then on the other side I have load and ground. Will the ground supply the other plate?

Hi Belfior. Often when people use the term 'BEMF'  or 'back EMF' in relation to a coil, they really mean the
'flyback' spike on a coil that occurs when you cut off the current flowing in a coil quite sharply and the magnetic
field around the coil collapses and induces a voltage spike in the coil. The energy that gets stored in the magnetic field
around a coil comes from your power source (battery, power supply, etc.) It is not extra energy from outside the system.

I have tried connecting one plate of a HV capacitor to a DC high voltage which is battery powered and isolated from ground
with the other capacitor plate connected to ground, but only saw a tiny charging effect on the capacitor. It takes a flow of
current from one plate of a capacitor to the other plate to charge a capacitor. You are 'pulling' charge from one plate and packing
it into the other plate. This movement of charge from one plate to the other is a current.  That charge displacement takes an expenditure
of energy to do. I have tried placing a HV diode across the plates of the HV capacitor (in both directions) in this configuration to try to
facilitate that current flow between the plates, but still could not get much charge on the capacitor.  I could not get that approach to work.


Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20139 on: January 04, 2019, 06:47:49 PM »
Well Faraday and Maxwell say it is the rate of change, that dictates the current on the other side. The displacement current. Try with 4-9kV sharp DC pulses. I would also say very high frequency. I think high rate of change means a sharp drop and how many drops per second.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20140 on: January 04, 2019, 07:26:48 PM »
Hi Belfior. I tried with a flyback driver at around 15 to 20 kHz or so.
Rectified to pulsating DC through a HV diode. I could not get the HV cap to charge that way.
Maybe you will have better luck than me.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20141 on: January 05, 2019, 03:15:20 PM »
Hi Belfior. I tried with a flyback driver at around 15 to 20 kHz or so.
Rectified to pulsating DC through a HV diode. I could not get the HV cap to charge that way.
Maybe you will have better luck than me.

Hi Void.

I have multiple setups and the one I am using is 2 caps in series connected by an LED. Positive lead from a sig gen to one cap and negative to the other cap, so the LED is "unsulated".

Nothing happened. Then if you connect ground to any side of the LED it lights up. Then I realized the "negative" sig gen lead is laos ground, so I effectively joined both sides of the cap with ground. Now I am building a "sig gen" that is powered with a battery and trying the experiment again

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20142 on: January 05, 2019, 05:25:29 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20143 on: January 05, 2019, 05:54:07 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....
Hi Forest,
could you please explain a bit more what you mean ?

"in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity."

Perhaps some example...
Thanks,-V.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #20144 on: January 05, 2019, 05:57:02 PM »
Let me put a little notice here. Output returned to bettery is always less then taken from battery ... Unless you did something stupid and your emf is not taken purely from battery but from ambient field. Stiveip would here pop up with schumann resonance theory but in fact many did the same in late XIX century just using coils and iron core. The break from emf and current is what allow overunity. A nd you can take free electrons also....
Hi there could you please explain in English only I got lost at the 'ambient field' and I don't understand since we no longer use electrons since I'm told
they don't exist I think the term is 'charged particles' and the bit about did something wrong is also confusing.
Sorry :'(
AG