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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11688713 times)

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19965 on: June 03, 2018, 11:17:14 AM »

Concerning the interferrence on the kacher output signal (not a nice sine wave), i think it could (also) be caused by the burst of pulses.

Like ringing a bell, but keep on tapping the bell in an irregular manner so each tap causes a new ringing so the
ringings start to interfere (in phase adding, 180° out of phase stopping and anything in between) with each other, until stop tapping,
then the strongest resonance remains.

Just a tought,    Itsu

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« Reply #19966 on: June 03, 2018, 11:30:46 AM »
Concerning the interferrence on the kacher output signal (not a nice sine wave), i think it could (also) be caused by the burst of pulses.

Like ringing a bell, but keep on tapping the bell in an irregular manner so each tap causes a new ringing so the
ringings start to interfere (in phase adding, 180° out of phase stopping and anything in between) with each other, until stop tapping,
then the strongest resonance remains.

Just a tought,    Itsu

Itsu,
This only would appear when the feedback from the secundairy is exciting the mosfet driver in a bad way.
Perhaps you need to clean the signal a bit up.
Scoping your DRAIN》》SOURCE would show if its caused by inproper switching.

I did not see a messed up ringing nor using FET' s in single mode.

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AlienGrey

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« Reply #19967 on: June 03, 2018, 02:16:26 PM »
Stalker!

if it was a car engine would you fire the sparking plug wile starting to inject fuel into the engine ?
So why does Stalker suggest you do ? mind boggling.

AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19968 on: June 03, 2018, 04:36:19 PM »
Concerning the interferrence on the kacher output signal (not a nice sine wave), i think it could (also) be caused by the burst of pulses.

Like ringing a bell, but keep on tapping the bell in an irregular manner so each tap causes a new ringing so the
ringings start to interfere (in phase adding, 180° out of phase stopping and anything in between) with each other, until stop tapping,
then the strongest resonance remains.

Just a tought,    Itsu

   And, there may be a lot more interference once the grenade is connected up, also. As the earth ground on the Kacher emitter is also connected to the grenade. So, there is where the diode comes in on the emitter. I would suppose.
   Are you using some type of earth ground on the Kacher transistor emitter yet? Did you place the ferrite rod before the antenna?   What happens if you reduce the 4 bursts or so, to just one or two bursts? Does the signal look better then? Just some thoughts.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19969 on: June 03, 2018, 05:27:55 PM »

Thanks guys,

below screenshot 1 shows the push pull drive signals in yellow and blue (so not directly the TL494 signals, but the delayed sigs
from behind the TC4093 going to the push pull MOSFETs (not installed)).

The purple and green traces are the Kacher MOSFET gate and drain signals (12V on the drain from a battery).

The second screenshot shows again a zoomed in display of the Kacher MOSFET gate and drain signals.


Nick, 

no ground used at the moment, no ferrite rod (choke), no antenna.
Its beautiful weather here, so enjoying primarily that and playing around on the bench only some hours in the evening.


Regards Itsu


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« Reply #19970 on: June 03, 2018, 06:55:09 PM »
   Looking good, I think.  We'll see what the signal looks like with the ferrite rod and antenna. And a scope shot of the antenna's output signal. When you have the time.  It's nice here today, also.

  So that last scope shots are with the 4th module connected up. Not the three fet circuit, right?
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19971 on: June 03, 2018, 07:13:26 PM »

Right,    still the module 4 (Kacher MOSFET drive) connected to the kacher coil.
I am amazed by the spikes at 12V on the drain, hate to see the spikes with 200V on the drain  :o

Yes, i will reconnect the module 3 (3 fet kacher transistor drive) and my original kacher with the ferrite choke and antenne later today / this week  :) as that is probably what you want to try.
 

Itsu

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« Reply #19972 on: June 03, 2018, 07:26:30 PM »

I am amazed by the spikes at 12V on the drain, hate to see the spikes with 200V on the drain  :o

Itsu

Yes,.... i can tell you using 100V at the primairy...   it will spike upto 600- 800V at the Drain/Source.
So for Nick,... don't go to high on the primairy voltage using the 2SC5200 or IFR260

Also,... as i did,..  you can use a blocking diode UF5408 in order to block the EMF spikes going to the Collector/ Drain...
In that case don t forget to drain the EMF also

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19973 on: June 03, 2018, 08:36:20 PM »
   Apecore:   Thanks for the advice.  The highest voltages that I will be able to provide, as the input to the Kacher transistor, is about 35 to 55 volts. By using a boast module working off of a good 12v car battery. Which is not delivered to me, yet.But, first I will connect it up to two 12v 7Ah batteries in series.  Or like Itsu is doing, just to a single 12v source, and stand back, watch for smoke, and blown caps.
  I'll make sure to wear head gear, and carry a big shovel. Not to worry. I've been practicing for this.

   I would love to have one of those small and fancy digital PS,  like you have now. With all the led read-outs and controllable  voltage and amp setting on it.  Nice... 

   Hows about showing a short video of your set up as you have it now. As well as any scope shots of the Kacher circuit working, etz...   When you have a chance.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19974 on: June 09, 2018, 11:21:25 AM »

Nick,

i reinstalled my original kacher / choke / antenna / grenade setup to do some kacher testing.
The grenade/inductor is NOT connected and i am for now, using no ground other then the scope probe ground.

Using the module 1, 2 and 3 (3fet kacher transistor driver) i drive and show the Kacher output with and without
the choke/antenna connected (blue signal).

The results can be seen in the below 2 screenshots and in the video.

Only the amplitude and the frequency of the kacher ringing changes, but we still keep the ringing down.
Frequency without the choke/antenna is about 2.9Mhz (screenshot 1) and with them is 1.4Mhz (screenshot 2).

So with this setup i cannot replicate the very short ringingless kacher signal you have shown us earlier.
I think that guy (whoever it was) was using a pulsed MOSFET system to drive the kacher.

video here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHNv5wiKkTY

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19975 on: June 09, 2018, 04:20:11 PM »
I hate to say it BUT It's NOT snap on SNAP  'OFF'!  ???  8)

Have you ever seen a UFO disclosure clip of a McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom jet being circled by an ORB circling the Phantom at
phenomenon speed while the jet is traveling 'supper sonic' ? Well you have the same problem here ! ;D ;D ;D ;D     
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQleBmWbnJY

How the hell are you going to speed things up when the with those old MOS-Fets your using they are a joke after the HC chips.
It's the Gate Sauce capacitance !

AG
« Last Edit: June 09, 2018, 07:38:26 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19976 on: June 09, 2018, 05:01:09 PM »
   Itsu:   Ok, well it looks like you have produced the same signals are what Stalker is showing. I believe he compresses the signal (on the scope) to obtain what looks like a sharper peak with not much ringing. I saw how he did that on one of his videos.
I'll look for that, again.
   
   I wonder if some type of snubber added onto the IRF4905 or the other fets, would help to reduce the ringing. Some type of snubber cap and resistor. Apecore had suggestion something earlier, but I don't remember all the details right now. Perhaps check his posts again.
   
   In any case other than the ringing, your set up and signals look how they should look. And more than just good enough for me to follow up on.   
   As you are not using an earth ground, you might consider connecting one up to your water pipes, or where ever you can find something to ground to. I get a better output when the ground line is also connected up to the transistor's emitter. And, perhaps  it might change the ringing signal at bit as well. Connecting up the yoke/grenade may also make some difference in the signals.
   
    We'll see what happens on my end, when I get to that point. As I do use an earth ground line, and have my grenade intact.    Sorry I can't be of more help, as I'm still waiting my parts to get here.
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   EDIT.  I wonder if your previous simpler Kacher version which showed a sharper on off signal, might be a better way to go.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19977 on: June 09, 2018, 07:49:02 PM »
   Itsu:   Ok, well it looks like you have produced the same signals are what Stalker is showing. I believe he compresses the signal (on the scope) to obtain what looks like a sharper peak with not much ringing. I saw how he did that on one of his videos.
I'll look for that, again.
   
   I wonder if some type of snubber added onto the IRF4905 or the other fets, would help to reduce the ringing. Some type of snubber cap and resistor. Apecore had suggestion something earlier, but I don't remember all the details right now. Perhaps check his posts again.
   
   In any case other than the ringing, your set up and signals look how they should look. And more than just good enough for me to follow up on.   
   As you are not using an earth ground, you might consider connecting one up to your water pipes, or where ever you can find something to ground to. I get a better output when the ground line is also connected up to the transistor's emitter. And, perhaps  it might change the ringing signal at bit as well. Connecting up the yoke/grenade may also make some difference in the signals.
   
    We'll see what happens on my end, when I get to that point. As I do use an earth ground line, and have my grenade intact.    Sorry I can't be of more help, as I'm still waiting my parts to get here.
                                                                                                             NickZ
   EDIT.  I wonder if your previous simpler Kacher version which showed a sharper on off signal, might be a better way to go.
There are a few things to take into consideration here and thought about seriously.

1/. is the device switching at the same frequency the Tesla coil is resonant frequency ?
2/. is the wave form clean and fast enough with clean edges and when it hits the device it's driving ?
3/. is the above resonant with your grenade setup ?

AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19978 on: June 10, 2018, 05:57:49 AM »

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« Reply #19979 on: June 10, 2018, 10:55:48 AM »


   Hows about showing a short video of your set up as you have it now. As well as any scope shots of the Kacher circuit working, etz...   When you have a chance.

                                                 NickZ
 


See the link, just a short impression of my current setup, showing the kacher interaction related to the voltage at grenade.


https://youtu.be/VP2jjTP22gw