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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7200162 times)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17640 on: August 08, 2017, 11:22:01 PM »
OK Void, understood. In fact if we take his video at face value, when he disconnects all power, the COP shoots up to infinity!  :o
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 09:12:33 AM by Hoppy »

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« Reply #17641 on: August 09, 2017, 03:58:24 PM »
   Itsu:
   I don't know what happened. But, the shape of the square wave changes according to the frequency and duty cycle settings.
   In placing the snubber caps, that shape is what I got. Even with just two 222 capacitors on the snubbers. So, I'm looking into it, but there seams to be no way of dropping the spike without also dropping the ringing.  In any case, I'll see what I can do about it.
   My new fets are being brought to me today, so I'll install them later tonight. Perhaps the older (also fairly new) fets have been damaged now, also.  I don't know, but I'll install the new ones today in any case.
    The Siglent scope has not made it to me yet.
    I have not deviated from what we are doing. But, those are my results so far.  I don't like them, either.
    I also need to drop the ringing by more than what you were able to do on your set up, as your voltages aren't low enough for my 200v fets. Maybe you can see what happens to your square wave form shape when you drop your peaks down further.
    Yes, that is the best resonant point for me, at about 16.7KHz, taking those reading at the gates. There are also some other resonant points, but with lower outputs.
   However, to tune the TL board at the fet's drain obtains a certain fre/duty/voltage reading at what looks to be their best setting. But, tuning the TL board by reading the inductor/cap reading on the 3t coil is a different story. So, I set the best working frequency at the inductor/cap, for the most OUTPUT. And also on the fet's snubber drain settings, for the best wave form to obtain some use able output at the bulb.
   How do you think that it should it be done, if not like that?   
   As tuning this thing, now,  is no easy matter.

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« Reply #17642 on: August 09, 2017, 04:43:38 PM »
Hi Hoppy. I couldn't follow what Kapanadze did in that video where he plugged
a plug into an AC socket on the workbench for a moment and there was a loud
buzzing sound heard. By infinite COP, I guess you mean that the power stayed on
for a little bit after they flipped a switch? There was definitely something unusual going
on with the power switch on the tobacco can, where they seemed to have to flip it a few
times before power to the load would go on or off. Is that what you mean?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17643 on: August 09, 2017, 04:50:54 PM »
   Itsu:
   I don't know what happened. The shape of the square wave changes according to the frequency and duty cycle settings.
   In placing the snubber caps, that shape is what I got. I'm looking into it, but there seams to be no way of dropping the spike without also dropping the ringing.  I'll see what I can do about it.
   My new fets are being brought to me today, so I'll install them later tonight. Perhaps the older (also fairly new) fets have been damaged now, also.  I don't know, but I'll install the new ones today in any case.
    The Siglent scope has not made it to me yet.
    I have not deviated from what we are doing. But, those are my results so far.  I also need to drop the ringing by more than what you were able to do on your set up, as your voltages aren't low enough for my 200v fets. Maybe try to see what happens to your square wave form shape when you drop your peaks down further.
    Yes, that is the best resonant point for me, at about 16.7KHz. There are also some other resonant points, but with lower outputs.
the only way to damp the spike is with a device that conducts at a preset voltage like a VDR or Zener oe 1.5k device got it ! large caps across the Drain to earth m ess up the frequency response the truth is you need a better quality ferox toroid to do what your doing junk from old EU Chinese monitors are low permeability sling it and get a better one,

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« Reply #17644 on: August 09, 2017, 04:58:31 PM »
   AG:  My yoke is fine. 
   Thanks, but how about you showing us how YOU obtain great results.
   Buy that yoke yourself and show us how well it works for you.
   Instead of telling someone to throw their yokes away and buy another, because you think so, without trying it out yourself,
first.

   My yokes can light up 700w worth of bulbs, on the Mazilli circuit. Without using any limiting voltage regulator circuit.
So, there nothing wrong with the yoke(s).
   However, there may be a current restriction due to the voltage regulators circuits.
   In any case I'm working on tuning the ringing with a 24v, 18w car bulb on the yoke's input at the center tap for now.  And not full power, while testing out the snubbers caps.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17645 on: August 09, 2017, 05:21:57 PM »
Hi Hoppy. I couldn't follow what Kapanadze did in that video where he plugged
a plug into an AC socket on the workbench for a moment and there was a loud
buzzing sound heard. By infinite COP, I guess you mean that the power stayed on
for a little bit after they flipped a switch? There was definitely something unusual going
on with the power switch on the tobacco can, where they seemed to have to flip it a few
times before power to the load would go on or off. Is that what you mean?

Hi Void,

Yes, just before the buzzing is heard, he disconnects the battery. He then inserts the mains plug and gets the buzzing, flips the switch on the can, then pulls out the mains plug, leaving the lamps shining brightly with no apparent power supply. Before he inserts the mains plug, his assistant throws a switch on the blue inverter. There was a  suggestion made on the fora that this switch connected a second mains suppply sitting in the inverter, through a specially wired output connector into the can.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17646 on: August 09, 2017, 05:37:25 PM »
   AG:  My yoke is fine. 
   Thanks, but how about you showing us how YOU obtain great results.
   Buy that yoke yourself and show us how well it works for you.
   Instead of telling someone to throw their yokes away and buy another, because you think so, without trying it out yourself,
first.

   My yokes can light up 700w worth of bulbs, on the Mazilli circuit. Without using any limiting voltage regulator circuit.
So, there nothing wrong with the yoke(s).
   However, there may be a current restriction due to the voltage regulators circuits.
   In any case I'm working on tuning the ringing with a 24v, 18w car bulb on the yoke's input at the center tap for now.  And not full power, while testing out the snubbers caps.
I already have I sent Arunus a clip pic of the wave form he won't talk to me about it ;) look a few pages back you will find it. i think i showed how to wind it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17647 on: August 09, 2017, 05:45:02 PM »
TL494 driver device. Notice 3 control pots PW Dead Time (2nd  PW over ride of PW) later removed as error amp shuts down device.


Also observe oscillograph of what looks like unstable driver stage. Went through all circuitry and re wound yoke found unstable wave to be ferrro related. Spoke to T1000 and note in later rewind yoke problem removed.


Notice 3rd pot removed (dead zone wiper connected to 0volts
Here I have one or two cores some are better than others but all perform with an earth !

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17648 on: August 09, 2017, 05:45:57 PM »
   Maybe you can show us a video of your device powering some bulbs, instead. And just what it can actually do.
As well as some scope shots of the output signal, at the inductor capacitor, etz...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17649 on: August 09, 2017, 05:47:52 PM »
I already have I sent Arunus a clip pic of the wave form he won't talk to me about it ;) look a few pages back you will find it. i think i showed how to wind it.
Hi AG,

Have busy days, can you sign in to skype on evening after 7pm? so we can have a call ... ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17650 on: August 09, 2017, 05:51:56 PM »
   Maybe you can show us a video of your device powering some bulbs, instead. And just what it can actually do.
As well as some scope shots of the output signal, at the inductor capacitor, etz...
No far too dangerous already had my E-mail hacked besides it's asking for trouble over here and i dont have a Tesla thing going or tunned as such. but telling you about ferro resonance from an educational point of view so far should not be a problem.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17651 on: August 09, 2017, 06:03:39 PM »
Yes, just before the buzzing is heard, he disconnects the battery. He then inserts the mains plug and gets the buzzing, flips the switch on the can, then pulls out the mains plug, leaving the lamps shining brightly with no apparent power supply. Before he inserts the mains plug, his assistant throws a switch on the blue inverter. There was a  suggestion made on the fora that this switch connected a second mains suppply sitting in the inverter, through a specially wired output connector into the can.

Hi Hoppy. Kapanadze was doing some things in that video which I couldn't follow.
My impression was the battery was still connected to the inverter box whenever
the device was running, so I couldn't figure out why sometimes he was plugging that
plug in the AC socket.

Kapanadze seems to make some comments about the sparkgap in the video. Would be nice to
have a translation of what he said about the sparkgap or any other technical details. Maybe in
those earlier days he was a bit more forthcoming about some technical details. :)

In case anyone is wondering which video I have been referring to, it is this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3neKg5KMc
Seems to be about 80W input and possibly 4 to 5 kW output with a very simple setup.



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17652 on: August 09, 2017, 06:12:05 PM »
Hi Hoppy. Kapanadze was doing some things in that video which I couldn't follow.
My impression was the battery was still connected to the inverter box whenever
the device was running, so I couldn't figure out why sometimes he was plugging that
plug in the AC socket.


The video needs following very closely to see the sequence of events.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17653 on: August 09, 2017, 06:46:54 PM »
The video needs following very closely to see the sequence of events.

Unfortunately, some of the things Kapanadze is doing in that video I just couldn't follow.
The battery seems to have remained connected to the inverter from what I could see, but I could
be wrong.  He also seemed to connect a second set of wires to the battery at one point, and I couldn't
follow what he was doing there as well. :) Maybe I have been misinterpreting some things.

Anyway, I personally am really interested in looking at his setup in that video making the assumption
that if it really is producing OU, then what are the possible basic components. If a person is inclined
to think it is fake, then there would be no point in discussing how it might be laid out. Since the device in
this early Kapanadze video seems to be pretty bare bones, I personally think it is worth taking a closer look at.

Given what people like Daly and Akula did later, it seems that a high power push pull inverter oscillator
and something like a HV flyback driver to power the sparkgap, a basic coil assembly, and an earth
ground may possibly be all that was in that 2004 Kapanadze setup. :) If it is real, then it seems there is
a basic concept in there that people haven't grasped yet to get it to work, although some people like
Daly and Akula may have got lucky without fully understanding why it works.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17654 on: August 09, 2017, 07:16:32 PM »
As an aside, in the same 2004 Kapanadze video, there is a cut in the video around 3:00,
and a short 1 or 2 second bit of another video segment was still left in the video. It appears to
show the 'assistant' (Kapanadze's son?) and another guy in a suit looking at some unusual drawings.
Unfortunately the video is too blurry to be able to make out the drawings they are looking
at. Maybe they were just looking at someone's art while taking a break, but one of the drawings
looks like it could be a torroid, but that maybe is quite a stretch. Anyway, just curiosity on my part there...  ;D


 

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