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Offline Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17550 on: August 01, 2017, 07:36:35 PM »
   Belfior:  Welcome.
   I can see that you were finally able to post. Good.

   I would start by building a kacher circuit first, and then to wind up the grenade coils. 
   After that, build the TL494 circuit, or buy one from Ebay ready made, for a few dollars.
   Cepren Stalker has one of the simplest TL494 circuit, shown on his last videos, that may be a good one to start with, and to replicate.

   There is no magic to be found in just the Kacher, or the TL494 circuits by themselves. The magic is found by heterodyning their combined interactions. And that is the main trick of these types of circuits.

   It's great that you can afford a new scope.
   Good luck.
                      NickZ
 

Yes admins were busy so had to wait some time to finally get here.

This scope was something that a polytechnic school abandoned to be replaced with digital ones. I think it is from the 80's. So "new scope" it is not, but for 50€ I think it is a good investment.

If you could fast forward me to the current progress? Kacher and TL494 were used to make these circuits work? This was confirmed by whom? Since Tesla did not have any of these, the principle would have to be simpler?

I'm not trying to a be a dick here. I am just merely trying to understand this. If this process works it has been there since the beginning of time, so howe come you need Kacher, TL494 and parts from an old Russian TV to get it work?

Think Ruslan said Akula was just lucky to get it to work, so is the principle still a total mystery? Everybody is trying to get the circuitry to work first, so they can study the actual principle?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17551 on: August 01, 2017, 08:05:29 PM »


Everybody is trying to get the circuitry to work first, so they can study the actual principle?

Hi Belfior,

Interesting statement,.....  and i must say you are mostly 100% correct.
Could we be all are searching for the unreachable??

But also each functional system should be explainable by logic physics, even Tesla theorie is part of that.
That means it is replicable

Since you've bin talking about Tesla and the ground current, what would be your approach?

Who knows what inspiration or mind blowing effort one different approach could do.


Best regards,

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« Reply #17552 on: August 01, 2017, 09:53:49 PM »
Hi Belfior,

Interesting statement,.....  and i must say you are mostly 100% correct.
Could we be all are searching for the unreachable??

But also each functional system should be explainable by logic physics, even Tesla theorie is part of that.
That means it is replicable

Since you've bin talking about Tesla and the ground current, what would be your approach?

Who knows what inspiration or mind blowing effort one different approach could do.


Best regards,

Apecore

I don't think it is unreachable. Thomas Henry Moray invited all willing scientists to look at his apparatus and it worked in the middle of the desert. You don't do that if you are just trying to scam a few bucks. He let them study his whole device minus one part he kept in his pocket and the device ran for days, so it was not a battery. That means the principle is not "illegal" in this universe. If the device works you can toss all "fundamental laws of physics" into the garbage or they need some tuning. I see no real limits anywhere. Limit is a human concept, so we can make sense of things. Limits are something humans have, but in the Universe I see very little of hard set limits.

People are in a hurry to get their names on a new "fundamental law", so they jump to conclusions. I still don't believe our laws of physics are 100% correct. But then again I studied mostly programming and electrical courses I barely passed. What I have observed is that humans think we did not come from this earth and that we are so much better then the rest of life on this planet. We tend to put all the technology between ourselves and this planet to shield us from it. We used to sleep on the ground that resonates in the same wavelength as our brain does when we sleep. So we build concrete buildings to sleep in and then bitch about not getting good sleep. We eat antibiotics and radiate bacteria from vegetables and then moan when our stomach hurts. Babies get allergies and might not be born at all. What do we do? We eat drugs that cannot be naturally found on this planet and that our body has never seen. This is pure insanity to me. We eat medicine for diarrhea, that gives diarrhea and in some cased death. "Eat a banana and drink some water?", "No I can't! There are carbs in that and I will get fat! I will get rubber tits instead!"

It's late and I'm ranting. You can PM me if you want to read all my rants. I will try to summarize my point, if there was any.

Tesla had coils, caps, spark gaps and resistors. Did he have an analog computer or logic ports? Did he have other pulse generators than the spark gap? Can we just send the pulses to the ground connected coil and pick the resonance back with other coil in the grenade? Resonance is the key to any amplification. Akula's bit of coax cable is just a reflector. Akula's looped LC in the middle of the grenade seems to be a correction of other parameters. Like resonance is off, so that gives more impedance or something. That means the other coils are wrong.

But I think this is now a thread hi-jack. I am going to build the circuit with the Kacher and TL494. I would like to see where itsu and NickZ get to. That will also help me out. I will post here if I find anything related to this thread

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17552 on: August 01, 2017, 09:53:49 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17553 on: August 01, 2017, 10:10:43 PM »
   In this thread, we aren't trying to do what Tesla did. Although a Tesla Coil is part of the device. The HV part or it, only.
The word Kacher refers to the type of Tesla coil that was modernized to include a simple oscillator circuit, instead of a spark gap.
As spark gaps can burn out, cause unwanted smelly ozone gas released into the surrounding, etz...
   
   There are no videos or movies in English, or made by Americans (north, central, or south American, showing devices like the ones we are working on. Such the Akula/Ruslan/Dally type of replications, of motionless free energy devices.
   Mostly only in the Russian language are any videos found of these types of contraptions. Solid State generators, with no moving parts, nor spark gaps. Some versions by Ruslan and Stalker and a few others do show some schematics, diagrams, and such.
Anyway, that type of device is what we are working toward on this thread.
 
   If you want to get on the same page, try reading some previous posts, and watching some of the videos of what this thread is all about.
   We are all just experimenting and testing different circuits, to see what works, and what doesn't. Therefore no one here can tell you exactly how to obtain a self running device, such as the ones we are working on now. So for now, we are all just testing things out.
« Last Edit: August 02, 2017, 06:51:57 AM by NickZ »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17554 on: August 02, 2017, 06:46:02 AM »
   Itsu:
   I've been trying to tune my device as best as I can, but there still seams to be some imbalance in the system, somewhere.
 I suspect now that although my fets are showing different resistance readings, like one fet is at 118 ohms and the other fets is 138 ohms resistance. That the actual cause of the imbalance may be also be due to the yoke coils, as well as possibly the fets. So, I've got more fets on order. And I'm wiring up a new yoke, also.
  But, just as apecore found out,  he still had problems with his lossless clamp and had to re wire, or re route the coils on his set up. Or the fets would fire at the same time. But, he did get it working now with hardly no fet heating issues, nor even needing fans.  While Jeg still had spikes on his lossless clamp circuit, showing up on the scope. And could not get rid of them,  that I can recall.
 
   But, Itsu you were able to obtain fairly good results from Verpies design. Right? The problem seamed to be in obtaining the needed interaction with the HV circuit.
  Maybe you can post the schematic of that Verpies Clamp design, again, for me. As I may have to go that route, myself.
  Can I run the lossless clamp from my TL/UC board circuit. Or not?

   As I mentioned, I'm now rewinding a new yoke. Another yoke, with the primary coil 12 and 12 turns also, but opposite to the 28t coil, and the 3t coils. So that the primaries are opposite to the secondary coils on the yoke.
I'll try that out tomorrow, and see what happens.
 
  I'm still into installing whatever snubbers are needed. As my drain spikes and peaks are OUT THERE. Let me know if you need any more close ups of the "ringing", wave forms and such. And let me know if you have any suggestions, or snubber thoughts, and ideas, please.
   Thanks,
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Offline Belfior

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17555 on: August 02, 2017, 12:49:50 PM »
I just watched some videos from kapanadze and Akula translated by stivep. It seems 80% of the circuit is just junk added to make it all look more difficult than it is. Now before I buy Kachers and all the rest I would like to know if there is any indication that it is all actually needed? Spark gap/Kacher and the yoke make sense, but can I replace the Tesla coils with a banana?

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« Reply #17556 on: August 02, 2017, 01:35:31 PM »

Nick,

it is very tiresome to keep up with you as you tend to skip advices given, do something completly different as adviced
and then again ask advice and suggestion for your new situation.
I think you should focus more on your present problem and fix them before going on,
perhaps go eat a snickers:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4aD_B3WYA

Your drain signals look very different from each other, so there is something wrong.
As mentioned severall times now, your measured resistance (118 138 Ohm) is way to low, but you give no details on how you
measure it.  Also you give no info on if the MOSFET switches to 0 Ohm when touching the gate as adviced.

The advice to lower the duty cycle as the gate signals show almost no dead time inbetween is also ignored i think.

If your yoke is wound OK, which you should simply find out by looking at it, then no need to build a new one
Make sure its balanced (2x 12 turns same direction) and keep the 3 turns also in the same direction.

If you want to look into the lossless clamp setup, then look for the diagram in this thread as it was published severall times.
I had good results with it, but my system also worked reasonable well with snubbers, and that is not the case with you.
If your TL/UC board works OK (balanced) it should be OK for a lossless clamp setup.

To suppress peaks and ringing, your system needs to be working balanced first, then we can calculate again the ringing frequency
and try to calculate the values for an RC snubber filter.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17557 on: August 02, 2017, 02:14:43 PM »
Nick,

Assuming your resistance readings are correct (measured with mosfets disconnected out of circuit), then as Itsu has pointed out a few times, your mosfets are shot. I advised you a long time back to obtain a current limited power supply for use whilst experimenting / tuning, as you run the risk of smoking even more mosfets! As Itsu advises, make sure you initially run on low duty cycle. Don't run with the yoke connected without snubbers and don't run with a 24V supply until your waveforms look reasonably decent at all duty cycle settings.

I see no point in you switching over to a lossless clamp at least until you have reasonable looking waveforms and even then, why do this when all of the claimed self-runners you have seen, do not utilise them?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17558 on: August 02, 2017, 02:23:43 PM »
Nick,

it is very tiresome to keep up with you as you tend to skip advices given, do something completly different as adviced
and then again ask advice and suggestion for your new situation.
I think you should focus more on your present problem and fix them before going on,
perhaps go eat a snickers:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4aD_B3WYA

Your drain signals look very different from each other, so there is something wrong.
As mentioned severall times now, your measured resistance (118 138 Ohm) is way to low, but you give no details on how you
measure it.  Also you give no info on if the MOSFET switches to 0 Ohm when touching the gate as adviced.

The advice to lower the duty cycle as the gate signals show almost no dead time inbetween is also ignored i think.

If your yoke is wound OK, which you should simply find out by looking at it, then no need to build a new one
Make sure its balanced (2x 12 turns same direction) and keep the 3 turns also in the same direction.

If you want to look into the lossless clamp setup, then look for the diagram in this thread as it was published severall times.
I had good results with it, but my system also worked reasonable well with snubbers, and that is not the case with you.
If your TL/UC board works OK (balanced) it should be OK for a lossless clamp setup.

To suppress peaks and ringing, your system needs to be working balanced first, then we can calculate again the ringing frequency
and try to calculate the values for an RC snubber filter.

Itsu
yes know what you mean!  100 R pull down you will be lucky if they don't blow something i used 680 or was it 820 R, any how on the brighter side he has kept the thread going ;) but in saying that you could get an effect by just playing with a simple signal generator and a capacitor of the correct value and .47 uf is not it. you need to experiment rather than just building it and expecting a miracle !  ;) playing is the key to cutting out the B>S. but you have to find the BS to cut out your self, Allen

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17559 on: August 02, 2017, 05:03:15 PM »
Nick,

it is very tiresome to keep up with you as you tend to skip advices given, do something completly different as adviced
and then again ask advice and suggestion for your new situation.
I think you should focus more on your present problem and fix them before going on,
perhaps go eat a snickers:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM4aD_B3WYA

Your drain signals look very different from each other, so there is something wrong.
As mentioned severall times now, your measured resistance (118 138 Ohm) is way to low, but you give no details on how you
measure it.  Also you give no info on if the MOSFET switches to 0 Ohm when touching the gate as adviced.

The advice to lower the duty cycle as the gate signals show almost no dead time inbetween is also ignored i think.

If your yoke is wound OK, which you should simply find out by looking at it, then no need to build a new one
Make sure its balanced (2x 12 turns same direction) and keep the 3 turns also in the same direction.

If you want to look into the lossless clamp setup, then look for the diagram in this thread as it was published severall times.
I had good results with it, but my system also worked reasonable well with snubbers, and that is not the case with you.
If your TL/UC board works OK (balanced) it should be OK for a lossless clamp setup.

To suppress peaks and ringing, your system needs to be working balanced first, then we can calculate again the ringing frequency
and try to calculate the values for an RC snubber filter.

Itsu

 
   Itsu:  Ok, I had the snicker bar.  I'm me now...

   I did do what you suggested. I measured all my fet's resistance values, and found that they are all different. The ones that are closest to a similar value are the ones that I mentioned. 118, and 138 ohms. If touching the gate does not go to 0,  I would considering it a dead fet. I tested about 8 different fets (that aren't dead), and none of them gave the readings like yours do. They were measured as you suggested. And which I have always done, in the same way.  As I've mentioned, I have order some more new fets. But, the two that I've mentioned are still new and measure the same as when I got them.

   I have always had the unbalanced condition on the yoke, so that is why I'm winding a new one, as I think part of the problem may be due to the YOKE, or it's windings. Therefore I'm testing a new one. And I'll know more about it later today.

   Stalkers yoke windings are not all in the same direction, and he does obtain self runners. So... that's why I'm making a new yoke with opposite windings. And also to make sure that the winding are all exactly the same.

   The gate signals are fine, the setting were on the full duty cycle on the blurry picture that I uploaded. But, at times they will also fire at the same time when adjusting the duty cycle, or frequency controls. This I believe may be due to the unbalanced condition. But, the TL/UC board works fine when the yoke is not connected up. Therefore I suspect the yoke to be part of the cause of the unbalanced condition. And is why I'm doing something about that. Not to detour from your suggestion, as I have always followed them, the best that I can.
   Anyways, I don't want to tire you out. Or myself, for that matter.  So, sorry for doing so.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17560 on: August 02, 2017, 05:17:00 PM »
I'm on page 16 of this thread and it took me a day :(

Can the ferrite yoke be almost anything or do I need to go to Latvia and kick some grandmothers door in?

It seems it gives trouble if it is too large?

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« Reply #17561 on: August 02, 2017, 05:31:20 PM »
  The yoke is a very important part of the system, it is the heart of the device, and is meant to run at around 15KHz. So, if you don't want to, or can't follow the suggestions or diagrams, you may have a hard time getting this to work right using some other type of core. Look for yokes on the older CRT TVs, or monitors, and pull out the ones that are about 3 inches wide. But not any yokes that are any  smaller than that. Bigger ones like 4 inches may work, as well, but not the smaller ones than are less than 3 inches wide.

   It can take a long while to go through all of the previous posts. But, you need to know what this project is all about. There are no short cuts to the learning curve. After my 3500+ posts, and having read all of the posts on this thread, as well as all the posts on the other Kapanadze thread, and ALL of the related videos, I'm still just learning the ropes.
This project is not for the impatient types. As it requires much persistence, and some luck.
                 So, good luck to you.
                                                  NickZ
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17562 on: August 02, 2017, 05:49:12 PM »
    Itsu:
    Below are my current gate signals, showing a lower duty cycle.
  volts/div set at 10, and sec/div is at 20us.
  Let me know if you need anything else to figure the snubber values, and I'll always do as you suggest.

  TinselKoala: 
  Yes, my gates are getting 15v from the UC4420 drivers.
  My PSU is 24v, and the UC4420 drivers are getting 15v through the 15v voltage regulator, and to the gates.
  My TL494 circuit is getting 12v through the 12v regulators and filters.

     I've ALWAYS had hot running fets, always, no matter what I do. So, I think that the unbalanced problem as well as the overheating issues may be due to the yoke.  However, I'll install some snubbers, first. Even though the Stalker diagram which I'm following does not use any snubbers.  After that, I'll change to the new opposite windings yoke, and give that a try.

   apecore: Can you please upload Verpies lossless clamp diagram for me, as I don't have it anymore.
 Looking for it on the site, can be a pain in the butt.
   
   Thanks, guys.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17563 on: August 02, 2017, 08:11:33 PM »
    Itsu:
    Below are my current gate signals, showing a lower duty cycle.
  volts/div set at 10, and sec/div is at 20us.
  Let me know if you need anything else to figure the snubber values, and I'll always do as you suggest.

  TinselKoala: 
  Yes, my gates are getting 15v from the UC4420 drivers.
  My PSU is 24v, and the UC4420 drivers are getting 15v through the 15v voltage regulator, and to the gates.
  My TL494 circuit is getting 12v through the 12v regulators and filters.

     I've ALWAYS had hot running fets, always, no matter what I do. So, I think that the unbalanced problem as well as the overheating issues may be due to the yoke.  However, I'll install some snubbers, first. Even though the Stalker diagram which I'm following does not use any snubbers.  After that, I'll change to the new opposite windings yoke, and give that a try.

   apecore: Can you please upload Verpies lossless clamp diagram for me, as I don't have it anymore.
 Looking for it on the site, can be a pain in the butt.
   
   Thanks, guys.
 

Good day NickZ

Just attached the Lossless clamp design originally posted by Verpies.

If you wind *opposite* primaries on the yoke coil (using a complimentary drive signal), you will produce __in-phase_ output pulses and  NOT the  complimentary signal pair as is required for push pull operation. The Fets will then be effectively paralleled together and *appear* to fire simultaneously.



What can be tried as mentioned by T-1000 is the "parallel wound" primary, which is set up sort of like a bifilar wound coil (both primaries are wound together at same time).  On one side both ends are connected together >> Positive power rail, and other two loose ends >> Mosfet Drains.

take care, peace
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17564 on: August 02, 2017, 08:24:03 PM »
Nick,

Be aware you can not use the TC4420 in combination with the lossless clamb, they haven't got the ENABLE pin.
I think Itsu is right,......first solve the problem.
This clamp thing wont solve it.



 

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