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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 7754385 times)

Offline lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17205 on: May 17, 2017, 03:12:00 AM »
Use   arduino
3 digital ouputs
2 of them will be push pull use them with high speed driver ic and FET.
1 of them will be tesla nano pulse generator use ic to make 500 ns pulse and FET.

step 1. find resonance of your yoke... by sweeping frequency monitor input vs output. arduino driving only 2 ouputs of push pull yoke.
Mine is 25 khz   40 microseconds between push and pull. cycle complete push and pull in 80 microseconds. frequency on output is 25 khz
most efficient pulse width is between 13 and 26 microseconds.

step 2. use step 1 to determine tesla harmonic frequency 25k *2*2*2*2*2*2= 1.6 mhz  (choose the multiple closest to 2mhz)

step 3. use step 2  to determine 1/4 wave of 1.6mhz (146 ft or 44 meters)  Lengths will be determined from this number. 1/2 of this is tesla secondary length (22meter), grenade length 44meter and 44 meter large ground wire . 11 meter length on the induction coil wrapped on the grenade.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/antennagpcalc.html

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Good day Bat1Robin2

A quick question:  Are you sweeping the yoke frequency spectrum looking for the *Ferroresonance* of the yoke core ferrite material, or are you *using* the yoke & windings as the *L* reactance of a L/C resonant circuit?

If you are *sweeping* for the Ferroresonance of the Yoke Ferrite material I would guess it to be in the Mhz range.
Maybe 25Khz could be a sub-harmonic of that Mhz range ferroresonance.

If you are using the Yoke & windings as part of a L/C resonant circuit,  exactly what forms the *C* reactance?

Have you *checked* the Frequency Spectrum of your _Grenade_ coil?

We have found that only small changes in *winding* technique can and will not only completely CHANGE the S/N (signal/noise) ratio of the higher order peaks but also the predominate resonant frequencies of those peaks.

Even if you use an *exact* length of wire equal to Lambda/2;  you are NOT guaranteed that the *predominant* resonant frequency will coincide with Lambda/2.  In fact I am certain it will not because different grenade *winding* techniques will render *unique* apparent phase Velocity Factors which can modify / shift that desired Lambda/2 resonant frequency.

Meaning that without the use of a Spectrum Analyzer, it is at best very difficult to analyze if not impossible to predict the Resonant Frequency and S/N distribution for any particular Grenade winding configuration.

With that in mind, we have found that it is much easier to wind the *grenade* first, analyze the frequency spectrum distribution and then work backwards to calculate the _inductor loop_  Fres (resonant frequency) and likewise the Push Pull drive frequency.

take care, peace
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17205 on: May 17, 2017, 03:12:00 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17206 on: May 17, 2017, 07:06:34 AM »
lost bro

My thoughts on yoke analysis is like this. if you monitor input power and output power of any transformer and sweep all frequencies and find the one that if the most efficient then that frequency must be its a resonant one. Similar to pushing someone on a swing set at different times you will soon find what timing is right. One does not need to measure the gravity of the earth or the chain length to find this out by experimentation. You only need to monitor how far they go when you make a small push. My yoke core begins to eat power above 60 khz. and below 10 khz will not output much of anything. So i do not need to know L or C to find the most efficient operating frequency of a transformer yoke. But i believe you are correct in that it may be 50khz. My arduino cant  reach that frequency. But i know from previous experiments that in that range output begins to fall. Pulse width was also determined to be best between approx .33 and .66 of each push pull time.  Again someone does not need to know the permeability of the core or anything else to find this from experimentation. That being said i do have a small capacitor connected parallel to the output winding but it makes very little gain didn't think it was worth mentioning. I tried a larger one and my efficiency fell across the band so i left the little one. By sweeping with a computerized arduino and monitoring efficiency is that not somewhat the same as a frequency analyzer ??

My electronics teacher told me to find the mystery components R and C in an unknown box and so i wrote a computer program that had all possibilities of r and c where the my computer generated graph crossed was the only solution that fit the box known criteria. It ended up being the correct answer but i was suppose to use a complex super position formula or something like that instead. There maybe more than one way to skin a cat. Tell me your steps to the solution then i can compare.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17208 on: May 18, 2017, 06:05:10 AM »
   So, one step forward, two steps back... wasted effort on the part of Ruslan trying to replicate Akula's device on that last video. Nothing new there.

    So, now I've got my TL board wired and running on 12v to the TL494 circuit, as I had burnt out both of my previous voltage regulators, so I replaced the 12v regulator and filters with ones I had on hand.
 I also connected the fet drivers up to the 12v regulator, instead of the 15v regulator that I had on previously. This was done until I get some new regulators which I've already ordered.
   I also reversed the yoke primary where they connect to the fets. However, there was no change noted from that reversal. My fets are still getting very hot, so much so that I just burnt another one.
   However, there was NO heating of the fets when I disconnected the yoke coils from the fets. The yoke is still connected to 24v.
   The second picture is one that I took just now, showing clean signals from the TL circuit. But, not so nice when I connect the probes to the gates of the fets with the yoke connected, as well.
   Perhaps someone can give me a hand to try to figure out why the fets are frying, with only a few seconds run time.

  BTW: Hoppy, I do get a better interaction from the Kacher to the induction circuit when I removed one of the fets (that had burnt out), as you had also noted previously, as did apecore on that video that he had made for you.

   My signals from the TL494 don't look too bad now, and I do have some interaction with the Kacher, but nothing to write home about.
   Here's some pics,  let me know what you think.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17209 on: May 18, 2017, 07:17:41 AM »
Nick,
Your frequency is way to low, which in turn makes your pulse width way too long. (your scope appears to be set on .1 milliseconds per division)
Your pulse width appears to be 100 microseconds as i stated i have determined most efficient pulse width is 13-26 microseconds. your yoke will not be far off from mine.
crank those drive frequencies to 12.5 khz push & 12k hz pull to get out 25 khz output with pulse width about 33% that will get a starting point.

I have done arduino computer driven control with precision microseconds testing trust this info.

If you drive any coil with too long of a pulse it is the same as a dead short current will skyrocket and fuses will blow. stay under 26 microseconds on those yoke coils or you will be sorry as efficiency will drop like a rock. I also recommend a power supply with current limiting.

short pulse always better to start off then go longer.  show your scope settings more clear next time.

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« Reply #17209 on: May 18, 2017, 07:17:41 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17210 on: May 18, 2017, 08:02:55 AM »
  Bat1Robin2:
  As I had mentioned previously it does not matter what frequency, or duty cycle is used, the fets will overheat in a few seconds running.
  The duty cycle is not too high, either, as can be seen in the scope shot. The bulbs will barely light with a lower duty cycle. And running at any higher frequency will not light the bulbs any better, but worse, instead, which are already pretty dim.
  I do need to use a higher frequency, but, the frequency pot will not go much higher, and as I can still hear the ringing, I suspect that something is not right, as well, of course.
 I can only hear up to about 11.500khz, no higher as I'm 65 years old. My previous Mazilli yoke circuit did not make any noise at all, nor do  Ruslans or Akula's device.
  That is also as good a scope shot as I can take, if I get the camera any closer to the scope, it stops working and will freeze. In any case, I'll see what I can do about that. My PSU is 24v, 10A, and has current limiting protection circuitry.
   Thanks for your comments.

   Hoppy, I think that the reason that running on a single fet improves the output at the bulbs is because it then will run at a lower frequency on just one fet, instead of running on both. It will also heat up the single fet even more. So, there's no advantage there.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17211 on: May 18, 2017, 09:30:03 AM »
 
  I do need to use a higher frequency, but, the frequency pot will not go much higher, and as I can still hear the ringing, I suspect that something is not right, as well, of course.


Nick,

You can increase the frequency by reducing the value of the cap on pin 5 designated 'CT'.

You will need to experiment with snubbers to achieve less heating of the fets, or use the yoke 'lossless clamp' configuration suggested by Verpies. Have you got adequate heat sinking? if you are still using the heat sinks shown in your attached photo in post 17010, then these in my opinion are far too small. Use new heat transfer pads or good quality thermal paste.

Don't expect clean waveforms with the yoke connected, even if you have adequate snubbing.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17212 on: May 18, 2017, 12:05:20 PM »
Nick,

You can increase the frequency by reducing the value of the cap on pin 5 designated 'CT'.

You will need to experiment with snubbers to achieve less heating of the fets, or use the yoke 'lossless clamp' configuration suggested by Verpies. Have you got adequate heat sinking? if you are still using the heat sinks shown in your attached photo in post 17010, then these in my opinion are far too small. Use new heat transfer pads or good quality thermal paste.

Don't expect clean waveforms with the yoke connected, even if you have adequate snubbing.
Not trying to be clever but please disconnect the power first ;)
The other thing is Anyone know where I can get a decent pair of deflection coil 'formers' from ?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17213 on: May 18, 2017, 01:06:12 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17214 on: May 18, 2017, 03:59:22 PM »
Nick,
Your either pulsing too long or you have the output shorted.
Im giving you frequency and pulse width info that runs the most efficient if that blows fets then you must have a short on the output.

What is your load on the secondary 28 turns of the yoke, i use a single 60 watt bulb for testing.
What is your snubber circuitry, i use only a surge protector over the source to drain for testing.

What is your FET supply voltage and amp draw i use 24 volt DC . single bulb load is about an amp on consumption. 50 volt or so is about the maximum output a the bulb during testing.

This is a simple transformer thats not properly weight matched. (meaning the weight of primary should be the weight of secondary)
That is probably why its in the 70% efficient zone.
 step up transformer with 12 windings center tap then 12 more windings.  28 winding secondary.  extra 4 windings not really matched properly so leave it disconnected for start, it will only increase output slightly if connected in the correct polarity.

dc to dc power supply with torroid core and with an extra grenade coil in series with the output to somehow collect radiant from the tesla circuit.
just my opinion,
Good luck to getting it running.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17215 on: May 18, 2017, 04:14:01 PM »
  Hoppy:
  The heating issue is not due to the smaller heat sinks. I've tried bigger ones such as the motherboard ones, and they worked worse and is why I changed to using the smaller ones that can dissipate the heat sooner. Less than one half minute running is enough to blow my last fets, in last nights testing. Bigger heat sinks will not dissipate the heat in time before the fets blow, as they have more mass but take longer to dissipate the heat from the start. In any case the excess heating is not solved by heat-sink size, fans, or heat sink compounds, as there is way to much heat being produced for any heat sinks to keep up with.
   Itsu used Verpies lossless clamp design, but, he had produced a very poor output at the bulbs, similar to what I'm seeing now.
   Apecore is also now using Verpies lossless clamp system, and 50v input to his Kacher, but I don't really see any better results at his output, as yet. Considering that I can light the single 100w bulb with just my Kacher by itself running on 24v.

   What value capacitor should I try at the TL's pin 5? I'm currently using the recommended 102.
   
   I believe the problem may be in the yoke coils, or connections methods, as the TL494 is producing nice clean signals on its own, with the yoke connected, until I connect the Kacher. But, the heating issue is not due to the Kacher, as the fets will heat up even without the Kacher being on.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17216 on: May 18, 2017, 04:32:24 PM »
 Bat1Robin2:
  I'll answer your questions later today, as I've got to go somewhere now. 
   My load is a single 100w bulb which works much better than the smaller value bulbs.
   The same yoke/grenade set up could light 4 100w bulbs using the Mazilli driver, and same Kacher circuit, same input source. Also showing a great sync from the Kacher to the grenade. Unlike this type of TL494 circuit.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17217 on: May 18, 2017, 05:06:14 PM »
  Hoppy:
  The heating issue is not due to the smaller heat sinks. I've tried bigger ones such as the motherboard ones, and they worked worse and is why I changed to using the smaller ones that can dissipate the heat sooner. Less than one half minute running is enough to blow my last fets, in last nights testing. Bigger heat sinks will not dissipate the heat in time before the fets blow, as they have more mass but take longer to dissipate the heat from the start. In any case the excess heating is not solved by heat-sink size, fans, or heat sink compounds, as there is way to much heat being produced for any heat sinks to keep up with.
   
What value capacitor should I try at the TL's pin 5? I'm currently using the recommended 102.
   

You are clearly pulling too much current. You could try heavier choking of the 24V supply to the yoke. I had this problem but managed to limit the pulse current with a suitable value high current choke. Have you got good duty cycle adjustment on the scope with the yoke connected and Kacher off? Don't run without a decent load on the yoke secondary.

102 (1nF) sounds about right to me for the right frequency range with a 100K pot, or 103 (10nF) with a 10K pot.


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« Reply #17218 on: May 18, 2017, 05:08:16 PM »
Bat1Robin2:
  I'll answer your questions later today, as I've got to go somewhere now. 
   My load is a single 100w bulb which works much better than the smaller value bulbs.
   The same yoke/grenade set up could light 4 100w bulbs using the Mazilli driver, and same Kacher circuit, same input source. Also showing a great sync from the Kacher to the grenade. Unlike this type of TL494 circuit.

Nick,
I don' t know if you can do or did it alteady but try to compare your mazilli Fet driver (gates) signals with the TL's.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17219 on: May 18, 2017, 05:51:38 PM »
Nick,
I don't know if you can do or did it already but try to compare your mazilli Fet driver (gates) signals with the TL's.

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Nick Appcore, Hoppy and all, Suggest you find out what the resonant frequency of your yoke is you will get far more out if tuned to the sharp gain spike you might need a scope and a capacitor or two. But feel free to ignore my ramblings !

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