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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16980 on: March 30, 2017, 02:46:39 PM »
There is also another way of using push-pull energy init's own drive by winding the drive transformer in a more efficient way.
Yes, winding the transformer more efficiently minimizes its leakage inductance and the energy that snubbers must dissipate.
It is the energy stored in that leakage inductance that the snubbers must deal with.

Alternatively, the unwanted energy can be recycled back into the power supply by an auxiliary winding....without dissipating it as heat.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16980 on: March 30, 2017, 02:46:39 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16981 on: March 30, 2017, 03:24:05 PM »
Why use a MOV it's an energy waster and what you drain (waste) overheats the system and wastes your free energy (assuming you ever get any with this concoction) ;)  just use two fast diodes from the collectors a good cap and a bleed resistor back into the system somewhere like the EHT driver supply possibly.

There is also another way of using push-pull energy init's own drive by winding the drive transformer in a more efficient way.

hi,

There is specfic reason why Akula used MOV,snubber and even zeners to protect his IGBT's.

I have explained to Nickz MOV is needed to protect the diode.

MOV for my case was not implemented at first since i am using 1.2KV SIC Mosfet with 2x external 1000volts diode UF5408 for each mosfet in snubber section.
But later on i discovered components are getting damaged because of kacher.
So implementing a 820volts  ZOV(Zinc oxide varistor) for my case solved my problem for good.MOV would do as well.
I did learn it the hard way.

Nothing much to discuss since i have shown the snubber circuit in PWM circuit as attachment few weeks back.

But for my other circuit none PWM or PLL variant i am sticking with IGBT used by Akula and had no problems from the start.
Less heat generated because IGBT's are properly driven at the right voltage at around 17.xxvolts
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16982 on: March 30, 2017, 05:45:03 PM »
   Verpies:
   I believe that my TL board is working as Stalker has his operating, and possibly similar to how apecore's T494L set up works, also.  Even though it may not be working as you would like to see it doing. It does produce the same or similar scope shots, as what Stalkers circuit produces, as can be seen on his last very comprehensive and well explained video.
   
   I may make another TL494 board, (without the voltage regulators and filters), and just test it on a 12v battery. That way I don't have to get the first board all messed up with more changes.
   The new board can be made exclusively for testing your "proper" connection method. As I have 4 more TL494 chips, as well as most other needed components.
  However, as I explained previously the reason that your suggestions did not work for me, was due to the connection to pin #3.
 
   As you can see on Stalker's set up, his toggle switch connected (when closed) between the #3 pins, and the three 13,14, and 15 pins will kill the output from the pin #9 and #10. That is exactly what it was doing on my set up, although only one of the two outputs was not working. And that was why I went back to the Stalker connection method. But, without the #3 pin connected up to anything, and just left open, with no toggle switch, as it's not needed, at all. 
   On Pinoy's schematic, the #3 pin is left open, as well as on the TopRuslan schematic. There must be a reason that they are doing it this way.
   
    In any case, I'm not afraid of getting "bitten", and expect to continue testing the circuit, until it WORKS, as expected.
    Thanks for your help. I do appreciated it.

    PS. Although I have been busy with other things, I expect to finish with the snubbers, and will be able to test the workings of the circuit connected to the rest of the device.  I will show in videos, step by step what I've done, and the results of those tests, for myself, and for anyone that may be interested.
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« Reply #16982 on: March 30, 2017, 05:45:03 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16983 on: March 30, 2017, 05:56:16 PM »
hi,

There is specfic reason why Akula used MOV,snubber and even zeners to protect his IGBT's.

I have explained to Nickz MOV is needed to protect the diode.

MOV for my case was not implemented at first since i am using 1.2KV SIC Mosfet with 2x external 1000volts diode UF5408 for each mosfet in snubber section.
But later on i discovered components are getting damaged because of kacher.
So implementing a 820volts  ZOV(Zinc oxide varistor) for my case solved my problem for good.MOV would do as well.
I did learn it the hard way.

Nothing much to discuss since i have shown the snubber circuit in PWM circuit as attachment few weeks back.

But for my other circuit none PWM or PLL variant i am sticking with IGBT used by Akula and had no problems from the start.
Less heat generated because IGBT's are properly driven at the right voltage at around 17.xxvolts
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Magpower Hi, that's an interesting comment, I did look back at your circuit but am a little confused on how you drive the IGBT's at 17 volts  I was wondering if you might have ment 15 volts via 7815 perhaps and seeing other circuit with IGBT's is a new one on me so to spoeak although I have used them in a couple of driver circuits, I have experimented with myself, regarding the Katcher what type of device are you using there, as Drain Sauce resistance is really important to keep to a minimum there if EHT quality is important ?

Regards AG
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 11:34:45 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16984 on: March 31, 2017, 12:40:31 AM »
Ok, just a quick question about mixing AC signals of LF and HF.

In the configuration below, how do I tune Tesla coil frequency to get maximum power in (third) output coil?? to take energy from 60 HZ AC source.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16985 on: March 31, 2017, 06:17:13 AM »
Ok, just a quick question about mixing AC signals of LF and HF.

In the configuration below, how do I tune Tesla coil frequency to get maximum power in (third) output coil?? to take energy from 60 HZ AC source.

Try tuning the output coil itself, by putting a capacitor in parallel with the coil and/or varying the number of turns in the coil. You could also try installing a ferrite core that can be adjusted in and out to vary the inductance of the coil. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16986 on: March 31, 2017, 11:54:56 AM »
   Verpies:
   I believe that my TL board is working as Stalker has his operating, and possibly similar to how apecore's T494L set up works, also.  Even though it may not be working as you would like to see it doing. It does produce the same or similar scope shots, as what Stalkers circuit produces, as can be seen on his last very comprehensive and well explained video.
   
                                                                                                                                                                                      NickZ

Nick,

Its important to replicate the circuit as accurately as possible, just in case Stalker has achieved something special. However, its quite likely that you will do some TL494 config changes in the future, as suggested by Verpies, so order up a few IC sockets ready for the changes.

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« Reply #16986 on: March 31, 2017, 11:54:56 AM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16987 on: March 31, 2017, 01:12:35 PM »
Try tuning the output coil itself, by putting a capacitor in parallel with the coil and/or varying the number of turns in the coil. You could also try installing a ferrite core that can be adjusted in and out to vary the inductance of the coil.

Yess, but this 60hz source would have effect on TC output coil?, this is possible right? :D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16988 on: March 31, 2017, 02:35:28 PM »
Magpower Hi, that's an interesting comment, I did look back at your circuit but am a little confused on how you drive the IGBT's at 17 volts  I was wondering if you might have ment 15 volts via 7815 perhaps and seeing other circuit with IGBT's is a new one on me so to spoeak although I have used them in a couple of driver circuits, I have experimented with myself, regarding the Katcher what type of device are you using there, as Drain Sauce resistance is really important to keep to a minimum there if EHT quality is important ?

Regards AG

hi Aliengrey,

It's around 17.80volts as obtained from SMD version of 18volts  requlator which is powered by XL6009 Buck/Boost circuit set at 20volts which cost mere $1.99usd ea .
I am using dual driver in one package IX4427 to save space.

20volts is for powering inverted mosfet driver IXDI614 for the kacher part of the circuit which is powering a SIC Mosfet.

The most easy circuit to tune the kacher is the sergey version as attached no more ferrite rod insertion.Fine tuning from 1Mhz to 2Mhz.

The sergey circuit used in his setup base on my study is actually orginated from Oleg design as attached.

But there is enhancement made at Oleg circuit across R8 there is a SK diode 1N5818...1N5819.Not shown in attachment.

This one diode enables the high frequency interrrupter pulse to appear in the middle of the trailing edge from either A or B channel or both from before the mosfet driver.Very creative design indeed.

74HC132 x 2 I/C is optimized to the max.

The most important component is the C5 which Mica capacitor 470pf is used for extreme frequency stability.The support resistor R7 and R8 can be changed to one pot 500 ohms in the final design.

R10 is not needed and C6 1nf is changed to 4.7nf.

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Please try assemble top half of circuit onto a protoboard with 1x74HC132 and provide 10khz.Please use 2 channel and adjust pot such that a signal will appear in between trailing edge for testing.


Assemble and observe the result,tweak component where applicable should be not asking me any question about this circuit function anymore.


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What the above circuit does is upon combining with parametric osillator (set at sub-harmonics of L/C resonance using LM393 for the front end) then at the right position of interrupter pulse and frequency.

Say the parametic osillator is running at around 10khz which is a sub-harmonics of the L/C resonance at 3 turns combine with the sergey circuit tuned right will cause the kapanadze output to produce a nice sine-wave at somewhere just below 90khz at the output.


So think about it picture this 10khz(A sub-harmonics) oscillation produce a nearly 90khz "sine-wave" at the output with kacher
(sergey circuit running at under voltage 12volts instead of 200volts dc).The higher the kacher provided voltage the higher chance for output to create a high frequency sine-wave

Is this device considered a particle/electron accelerator without use of cavitation???




Good Luck to the rest since i can't show the other aspect of the circuit.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16989 on: March 31, 2017, 03:04:32 PM »
Nick,

Its important to replicate the circuit as accurately as possible, just in case Stalker has achieved something special. However, its quite likely that you will do some TL494 config changes in the future, as suggested by Verpies, so order up a few IC sockets ready for the changes.

Yes, and also put some desoldering braid and a flux pen on the list. And do try to get a few genuine Texas Instruments manufactured TL494s, there are a lot of fakes and poor performers out there.

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« Reply #16990 on: March 31, 2017, 03:07:59 PM »
@Magpwr: How do you call something a "nanosecond pulser" when it produces a pulse width that is over 40 MICROseconds wide?

Can you show us the rise time of a single pulse with your system? Does it produce a pulse risetime of below 10 nanoseconds?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16991 on: March 31, 2017, 04:09:41 PM »
@Magpwr: How do you call something a "nanosecond pulser" when it produces a pulse width that is over 40 MICROseconds wide?

Can you show us the rise time of a single pulse with your system? Does it produce a pulse risetime of below 10 nanoseconds?

hi TinselKoala,

The previously attached nanosecond circuit of Oleg for Ruslan was orignally design to produce a "single narrow pulse" in the nanosecond range.
It does nothing base on my experiement even with a high voltage >1kv in the <10ns range.

So what sergey have done is merely tweak the capacitor value and add sk diode in Oleg circuit to produce a wider pulse in the microsecond range example 7us to 40us like mention depending on what capacitor value was used.

Sergey circuit is a interrupter operating at approx 1Mhz to 2Mhz but the pulse width needs to be in the nanosecond range 88ns....250ns depending on the mosfet and voltage applied 12volt....250volts dc.
Got to strike a balance.That is why there is a sk diode or 1n4148 used in order to create a narrow pulse in the nanoseconds range.Anything which is under 1 microsecond...

The rise time is not even applicable for kacher,it's the pulse width, high voltage and the position of interrupted pulse which is important.

Like said the components like capacitor in Oleg need to be tweaked which can be discovered easily through experiment.

The mosfet driver i am using can handle easily up to around 2Mhz.


I am unable to explain how i achieve high frequency output using low frequency since there is no actual cavitation involved.I just consider myself an unofficial "reverse engineer" :D

Good Luck to the rest as i need to do other research as well.24hr is really too short for me in a given day and it's late night over here.

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TinselKoala please check my youtube for my high frequency high voltage generator which can provide <10ns pulse up to 2Mhz.
But i will not give away my 6kv version. :) :) :)    The above is just a appetizer.bye.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16992 on: March 31, 2017, 04:29:13 PM »
Yes, and also put some desoldering braid and a flux pen on the list. And do try to get a few genuine Texas Instruments manufactured TL494s, there are a lot of fakes and poor performers out there.

   All good advice.  Will do.

   Yesterday I almost finished the snubbers, but I had a delay, as I broke a pin off one of the tiny driver chip when handling the board.
Bummer, as it wasn't easy to replace. But, it's been replaced, and I'll try to finish up the whole board today. I hope.

   I learned my lesson and will order the IC sockets, and the bigger through hole TC4420 driver chip, as I was sent the TC4420EOA.
I'll try to order the Texas Instruments TL494, as well, but next time, as I still have several of them.

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« Reply #16993 on: March 31, 2017, 04:36:53 PM »
@mgpwr: OK< ty.

The high-frequency output from secondary, using LF input from primary, is probably due to resonant ringing, and to get this to work properly the secondary must be loosely coupled magnetically to the primary. This is how Tesla achieved HF outputs from his LF spark-gap-interrupted primary supply. The idea is this: the primary drive circuit produces a fast risetime and falltime short pulse at a relatively low frequency. This causes the secondary to ring at its higher frequency of 1/4-wave resonance and allows VRSWR (voltage rise due to standing wave resonance). Like striking a bell with a hammer. A single strike produces a lot of vibration cycles in the bell. If the primary is too closely coupled to the secondary this causes the secondary to induce back into the primary and damps the resonant rise. If the secondary and its associated capacitance are carefully built for "high Q" then there is little or no decay of the secondary ringing, until the next LF pulse comes along from the primary.
But this is different from the way modern solid-state TCs work, where the primary is pulsed at the same HF rate as the resonant frequency of the secondary. So you get a primary pulse and a secondary sinus cycle, just one, and then another primary pulse comes along. In this setup the primary can be much more closely coupled to the secondary since you aren't worried about mutual damping.
I think the circuits you are working with are trying to do the first, older Tesla method of pulsing primary at a relatively low frequency with short pulses of fast rise and fall times, and allowing the secondary to ring freely at its higher quarterwave resonant frequency. So you might try actually reducing the electromagnetic coupling constant "k" between primary and secondary. Also think about "Q" of the secondary and try to maximize that with careful construction and low-loss components after the secondary output.

Just my "two cents worth" based on my experience with TCs and SSTCs and drive circuitry. Good luck!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16994 on: March 31, 2017, 11:00:32 PM »
@mgpwr: OK< ty.

The high-frequency output from secondary, using LF input from primary, is probably due to resonant ringing, and to get this to work properly the secondary must be loosely coupled magnetically to the primary. This is how Tesla achieved HF outputs from his LF spark-gap-interrupted primary supply. The idea is this: the primary drive circuit produces a fast risetime and falltime short pulse at a relatively low frequency. This causes the secondary to ring at its higher frequency of 1/4-wave resonance and allows VRSWR (voltage rise due to standing wave resonance). Like striking a bell with a hammer. A single strike produces a lot of vibration cycles in the bell. If the primary is too closely coupled to the secondary this causes the secondary to induce back into the primary and damps the resonant rise. If the secondary and its associated capacitance are carefully built for "high Q" then there is little or no decay of the secondary ringing, until the next LF pulse comes along from the primary.
But this is different from the way modern solid-state TCs work, where the primary is pulsed at the same HF rate as the resonant frequency of the secondary. So you get a primary pulse and a secondary sinus cycle, just one, and then another primary pulse comes along. In this setup the primary can be much more closely coupled to the secondary since you aren't worried about mutual damping.
I think the circuits you are working with are trying to do the first, older Tesla method of pulsing primary at a relatively low frequency with short pulses of fast rise and fall times, and allowing the secondary to ring freely at its higher quarterwave resonant frequency. So you might try actually reducing the electromagnetic coupling constant "k" between primary and secondary. Also think about "Q" of the secondary and try to maximize that with careful construction and low-loss components after the secondary output.

Just my "two cents worth" based on my experience with TCs and SSTCs and drive circuitry. Good luck!
Mr Tinsel Hi and thank you very much for that explanation as the 'dam thing' Tesla coil in the katcher circuit has been doing my head in, so to speak as I would have expected a much longer wind and lower frequency after seeing H Morays 'winds on his device', ect, So how would you suggest one would be the correct way to sort out this problem, as we would be very interested in any advanced problem-solving in this device you could come up with.

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AG

 

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