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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718112 times)

conico

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16365 on: December 20, 2016, 08:39:29 PM »
 Can someone tel me were the function generator signal is connected , on Grenade coil? What frequency is Ruslan speaking?
One oscilloscope is on inductor and the second one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHipZaGwd48



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16366 on: December 20, 2016, 09:03:28 PM »
It's not as artificial and uninformative as you suggest. For example...

Hi Verpies,
I disagree. To be clear, I was not refering to the picture you attached, but so called 'dancing wave' effect which is being shown by succesfull builders of the device BTG. Im sure that this is nothing more than scope sampling effect.

...the shape of the current waveform (blue), visible at faster timebases, is the classic current waveform occurring in saturating ferro-cored transformers.
Theoretically yes, but for some of you starting to pursue saturation in the yoke, there is much simplier explanation for such a waveform: badly designed current transformer lacking terminating resistor will do the job too and in exactly the same way as on the picture. I made two quick camera shots to show you that. Both yellow traces show the same current, first with poor current transformer, second with a good one.

Marek


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16367 on: December 21, 2016, 02:34:08 AM »
Good day All

Just to confuse matters, I will add:
So, the question is: does he have a ballast resistor across his CT?
And what are we actually seeing?

take care,peace
lost_bro

Good day All

Had time to watch the video again:
Yes, the CT is terminated with *something*.  I really can't tell if it is a resistor, but it is definitely soldered to both ends of CT leads.

take care, peace
lost_bro

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16368 on: December 21, 2016, 07:33:27 AM »
I disagree. To be clear, I was not referring to the picture you attached,
I was referring to the entire video from which I picked up that one scopeshot.

...there is much simplier explanation for such a waveform: badly designed current transformer lacking terminating resistor
Do you think the author of this video was using a current transformer?
Anyway, what bad design of the transformer, besides the lack of the terminating resistor, produces this waveform for you?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16369 on: December 21, 2016, 07:34:40 AM »
Lithuania OU , Negative Resistance ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28gHCt4nS7Q

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16370 on: December 21, 2016, 07:41:59 AM »
Lithuania OU , Negative Resistance ?
Undecaying waveform enevelopes (a.k.a. trumpet) are extraordinary if the stimulus remains constant.
If the input frequency is swept, then they have a high yawn factor.

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16371 on: December 21, 2016, 08:27:06 AM »

Why would these *apparent* saturating fero-core XFRMR wave forms appear to be in *sync* with the apexes of the Grenade sinewave?  The only ferro-core in the system is the yoke core..................

EDIT: actually it seems the blue saturation spikes/peaks are *firing* antiphase just before TDC (top dead center) of the apexes.  This would correspond exactly to when the Karcher fires its pulse(s).

Hi Lost_bro
Ruslan and Acula used a fero toroid also for the current transformer. It is purposely working at saturation so to make sharp pulses for the synchronization part of the system. According to this pulse, katcher is activated and fire. At the scope waveforms you see blue tray's peaks are located at the zero crossing of the yellow waveform. This is because yellow scopeshot is across the in series cap inside the current loop. If yellow probe was across the 3T yoke-secondary, then they would be in phase with the blue one as there is a series resonance.

Dog-One

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16372 on: December 21, 2016, 08:32:41 AM »
Quote from: verpies
Undecaying waveform enevelopes (a.k.a. trumpet) are extraordinary if the stimulus remains constant.
If the input frequency is swept, then they have a high yawn factor.

Thinking about a parametric oscillation as Wesley showed in his trumpet wave.  The geometry of the
waveform then to maintain a constant frequency means, that for each cycle the rise-time must be
increasing.  What factors control the rise-time?   And could any of those factors be easily adjusted
cycle by cycle with passive components?


itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16373 on: December 21, 2016, 11:46:26 AM »

We had this discussion about the effect of a saturated current transformer earlier, see here:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg463605/#msg463605

and lateron:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg463623/#msg463623


It seems then that a saturated current transformer (sharp peaks) is NOT correctly showing the phase relation with its voltage (90°) anymore.
A loaded (with a resistor) current transfomer (no sharp peaks) does show the correct relation, but the signal is smoothed, so not readily useable   

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16374 on: December 25, 2016, 12:13:57 PM »
Seasons greetings.

To one and all.

Kind regards, Graham.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16375 on: December 25, 2016, 01:20:02 PM »
happy holidays to all

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16376 on: December 25, 2016, 04:13:24 PM »
Hi.
I greet all of this still the old year
-All comments are very interesting one of them is"
Marek
"All those dancing waves presented here and there are related to the scope sampling rate and theory of quantization. Depending on timing parameters of signal slope this effect can be achieved for any frequency"
Let me tell you something back (This effect is based on changes in the direction of the magnetic field in the coil) and an inductor has a predetermined frequency "Ruslan vascularity"25Khz. in the LC circuit you see there also two capacitors.
repeat sequence A very important part is type arrangement and construction of the coil itself and its inductance and the type of material.
We concur with this statement also
"Grenade Standing A-Field with HFreq and inductor standing  A field low freq. Thouse two A-fields must be opposite and of course, must be in resonance and the effect"
I would add the of my observations
-which raises doubts :Pay attention to the upper part of the coil changes of direction This part heats up!.
- and whether a given circuit have the same standing waves.
the rest of you is right at the point of reference current measurement on a small ferrite ring with the resistor (There is now a misrepresentation of the reversal phase) when the oscilloscope probe is inversely it was obvious.
But still has not been discussion of the synchronization I am speaking here of the same name: (Papc) integrated with the push pull and phase lock?
It's as if a bit of what you discussed about
-fixed frequency
- regulations pulse width
tightly twisted is this whole theory about maintaining a constant resonance.

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16377 on: December 25, 2016, 04:55:25 PM »

happy holidays to everwone and great new year .

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16378 on: December 25, 2016, 06:00:25 PM »
Let me tell you something back (This effect is based on changes in the direction of the magnetic field in the coil) and an inductor has a predetermined frequency "Ruslan vascularity"25Khz.

Hi Tomek,
Please try such a setup: connect precise source of frequency 25.000kHz which you mentioned above to the digital oscilloscope. For this particular freq even sinewave will be ok. Look through different time bases on the scope. With no Granate coil you will establish dancing waves :)

Dobrych Świąt Bożego Narodzenia życzę wszystkim i samych sukcesów w wiadomym temacie w nadchodzącym Nowym Roku.
Happy Christmass for everyone and succesfull New Year with selfrunnig devices!

Marek

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16379 on: December 25, 2016, 06:05:54 PM »
   Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to All.
   I hope that this coming year will be the best one yet. And that our devices will finally self run.

   Tomtech.  Interesting comment concerning how a device can be made to self run at ANY frequency.
   That is what I feel, as well. The trick is in the coils and connection methods, not in the frequency.
So, we'll see what next year brings...
                                   Holiday greetings,
                                                                  Nick Z