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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11719955 times)

lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16350 on: December 19, 2016, 07:08:27 PM »
Hoppy,

Again i agree...makes it all hard to get but even more fascinating.
Little steps.... confirmation.... and move on to the next step..
Must be possible with all those guys here.

Also....i have to re post my last post..
Posting and driving car is not a good combination.

Conico's schematic shows us a kacher interuptor not a 1/2 period eliminator.

Greetings

Good day Apecore

Yes, it appears to be an interruptor for the Karcher Transistor.
Also please note the double parallel diodes circled in  Yellow.  It seems to me that they are drawn backwards, have placed corrected diode position to the side.

These are the diodes that Ruslan spoke about having the effect of removing 1/2 sine wave, (half-wave rectification) from the *output* of the Grenade.  In effect if the output from the Grenade is not a sine wave(neg.half period removed) then the HV discharge from the Tesla Antenna (extra coil?) cannot affect it (removed neg. half period of sine wave).

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT:  just added another diagram from last year.......

What is the actual configuration of the Grenade windings?  Please note that the attached diagram does NOT coincide with the other attached diagram.  Seems the input/output has been moved around.

Please advise.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16351 on: December 19, 2016, 07:35:27 PM »
Hi guyz :)

Currently Uploading  videos..

But first

   Aprecore, Conico
If you look closely at that diagram you posted of the Ruslan device,
see those two diodes with kathode going to yoke? on the blue trace
and then to first layer of grenade? use that method
THAT already is blocking 1/2 peroid.... inhibiting negative period of Tesla.
Only simple kacher is needed already and it can be done and does not need to be strong kacher/tesla.
Some good guyz managed this and even in other odd forms which will get shared soon.



Lost bro
Yes all values have to match. Indeed a puzzle.
Most important I could say is how you do the coil lengths for both Tesla and grenade.
after that what happens with Caps to resonate with will go automatic which we already know how.
I stress more on wave-length in comparison with Frequency matching.
In the by the time I used the caps in between the coils was using what was givin on schematics...
but then after used calculations to get what is needed till max on what I could on My Blue Grenade is
the results you all saw up till now, but now it's time to finish it. correctly ;).
My second setup is being used with measurements ofcourse.
Diodes which are used are to kill 1/2 period of tesla.
The Ruslan way, as example is what conico uploaded, see the two diodes on blue trace,
I linked the video on previous posts that it works but By then I had no idea on
how coils need to be correctly yet but only on my ways ;). but was close.
On the other hand, like Akula schematic and which Ruslan did after too, was making boards
which already cut off negative 1/2 period. Train pulses were added for more gain
so there more then 1 ways to do this.
Be creative. :)
Experimenting time is needed
One more thing, Make sure when you have tesla secondary correct, make a ground cable at the same
lenght. has to be tuned to ground. even the ground he uses Diode to block negative halve. ;)

Edit* I personally do not trust that diagram which is  called Grenade question.
parallel cap at yoke is not right. and we are not sure there the halve period is blocked by looking at the setup.
But the way how the grenade is hooked up with yoke seems to be the correct way.


Btw Leave the Diodes reversed. that is how I did and worked.

Time to continue

  CHeerz~ ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16352 on: December 19, 2016, 08:02:51 PM »
Look for diagram ''Topruslan 8'' is a mosfet for supply Kacher or in Topruslan 8A is a mosfet near 2SC5200 for drive it.
About terminals of the coils ,there is no problem. If Ruslan establish the resonance with this long terminals he must keep them not cut the terminals.

Good day conico

Yes, I agree with this statement;
So,  If lead length is calculated as part of the wavelength to give the Fres, then it must be used as is which now brings us to another interesting point:

..... you have tesla secondary correct, make a ground cable at the same lenght....

2Mhz; Lambda/4=37.5m @ Wave Velocity 300Mm/s;

Quote from: ruslan
Land(wire) is also half-wave of 37.5 = 18.........


 see attachment below.

so,  @ 2Mhz; Lambda/4=37.5m / 2= 18.75m.

and since; Length Groundline = Length Tesla Secondary = 18.75m also for Fres @ 2Mhz;

If I remember correctly, it was also mentioned that the entire wire length of the combined Grenade, Groundline, and Grenade Yoke windings including interconnecting leads should measure Lambda/2, which @ 2Mhz = 75m.

take care, peace
lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16353 on: December 19, 2016, 08:03:21 PM »
  Geo:
  You mention: "If you look closely at that diagram you posted of the Ruslan device,
see those two diodes with kathode going to yoke? on the blue trace
and then to first layer of grenade? use that method
THAT already is blocking 1/2 period.... inhibiting negative period of Tesla.

  Are you using those two mentioned diodes, if so which one are you using? 
  Can you show how the Kacher secondary is now producing only 1/2 sine wave, due to those diodes? That would be of interest to see how that is working out. As neither apecore or myself have seen that. Maybe you can show how it works that way, in one of your videos.  As I can't see how those diodes on the 28t coil, (in either direction) can cause the KACHER to output 1/2 sine wave.
 

  Conico:  The diagram that you are showing at is an old one that Enjoykin posted in 2014, there are updated ones which are showing the circuit only using the simple Kacher circuit, such as the one below.  It's easier to replicate, than the Enjoykin one, and is what apecore,  myself and possibly Geo are working on.
   There is only one 2sc5200 Kacher transistor. Not two.
Although on Ruslan's newer circuit he may be using two of 2sc5200, to lowered the over-heating.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16354 on: December 19, 2016, 08:33:03 PM »

2Mhz; Lambda/4=37.5m @ Wave Velocity 300Mm/s;


 see attachment below.

so,  @ 2Mhz; Lambda/4=37.5m / 2= 18.75m.

and since; Length Groundline = Length Tesla Secondary = 18.75m also for Fres @ 2Mhz;

If I remember correctly, it was also mentioned that the entire wire length of the combined Grenade, Groundline, and Grenade Yoke windings including interconnecting leads should measure Lambda/2, which @ 2Mhz = 75m.

take care, peace
lost_bro

Hi lost_bro
;) exactly. agree on the math.
You see in Ruslan comments just follow what he commented.
you will see it will fall in place.
One of the secrets of this all is the tuning of the coils, My Opinion. Very important.

Nickz
https://youtu.be/1weV296sjHU?t=36
 over here is where I was using them,
without them there is no gain effect as how it does.
but discard this method since I was trying out many schematics,
but seems this is one of the ligit ones.
here still I was not completely on perfect tuning of coils but 1/3 of the freq it should be one
is still working. 1876Khz 1/3 =625khz tesla which under math it works also.
is the workign freq of my tesla kacher
Like I said their are many ways to skin the cat ;).
Yes try the one you have posted, but you will need Tl494 pushpull driver.
You cannot be stuck on one freq, need to able to regulate duty cycle and freq.

Cheerz.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16355 on: December 19, 2016, 08:58:28 PM »

Like I said their are many ways to skin the cat ;).

Cheerz.

Ooooh, GeoFusion.....

I had to cover Austin's ears...   :)

GeoFusion

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16356 on: December 19, 2016, 09:43:02 PM »
Ooooh, GeoFusion.....

I had to cover Austin's ears...   :)

Grum!
 ;D!! You made me laugh.

Cheerz man

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16357 on: December 19, 2016, 09:52:04 PM »
   Geo:
   Ok, I remember that video, but it doesn't prove that the Kacher is providing uni-polar pulses. Which I still doubt.
   If you were to place your Pc scope probe one meter away from your antenna coil, you would see what I am talking about. (Without it affecting your Pc). There are no unipolar pulses on your device. Please prove me wrong, as you will just see the same normal sine wave, on your scope.

   I am not stuck on one frequency, as you keep repeating. I can also vary the Kacher frequency by as much as 1MHz. And can vary the induction circuit as well, as I have shown on my videos.

   I have ordered the components for the TL494 circuit, as I have mentioned, and will be getting them after the first week in Jan.
 
    In the meantime, I've managed to replicate the same exact sound and "effect" that you have shown. Even without those diodes, nor the mediator coil, or TL circuit. And can show it lighting 400+watts worth of bulbs, or more bulbs, while showing the "amplification effect".  I can show that if anyone is interested. In case anyone doesn't believe me.
   The main thing,  is not finding the running frequencies, but the way it's all connected up. As each working replication is running at totally different frequencies. ALL of them are running at different frequencies. All of them, and there is no magic frequency to tune for.
  Those of you that think that you got it down on the math, just try it, and see what you get.
   Ruslan is not tuning for a certain frequency, he is just turning the TL 494 pots to obtain the best effect, the higher gain, where ever it may be found, and adds some tuning caps, here and there. The coils built to known specs, also, as well as rectifying the ouput. The full bridge rectifier has an important role this type of device.
 
« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 03:29:52 AM by NickZ »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16358 on: December 20, 2016, 03:53:41 AM »
Good day All;
Found this information, check attachments.

These are from videos posted by Andrian Dniester on his website.

This is another of his videos  just posted 4 days ago;  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sg9UPTZ9Vc
This shows the interaction of the Current XFRMR and Voltage at the Inductor at different resolutions, this is something that neither Akula nor Ruslan ever showed.
You can see that he has Resonance by the Yellow trace (Dancing Sine Wave that Ruslan talked about).
And the Double Current Spike (blue trace) which seems to mimic the pulse sequence from the Karcher output (voltage pulsing Current)

Qoute: Andrian Dniester: "Schematic is not so much of a secret............ tuning of coils is the secret....."
and: 
"I was trying the diode and it works much better because half the period was filtered out."


take care, peace
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16359 on: December 20, 2016, 09:21:31 AM »
These are from videos posted by Andrian Dniester on his website.
This is another of his videos  just posted 4 days ago;  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sg9UPTZ9Vc
This shows the interaction of the Current XFRMR and Voltage at the Inductor at different resolutions, this is something that neither Akula nor Ruslan ever showed.
You can see that he has Resonance by the Yellow trace (Dancing Sine Wave that Ruslan talked about).
And the Double Current Spike (blue trace) which seems to mimic the pulse sequence from the Karcher output (voltage pulsing Current)

Hi. All those dancing waves presented here and there are related to the scope sampling rate and theory of quantization. Depending on timing parameters of signal slope this effect can be achieved for any frequency f, for which following eq is true:
f_samp / f = integer number (f_samp - samplin freq for given time base).

Marek


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16360 on: December 20, 2016, 10:06:07 AM »
This Adrian's movie is only half truth, he show a dancing wave on inductor but it must be the same dancing wave (other frequency) on grenade coil.
Several weeks ago, I read on internet about a radio transmitter in east to jam Western European radio stations, the same principle is in our devices, wave interference. I'm sorry i didn't save that page , it was spiking in relation to Ruslan, Akula devices.
I remember the ''principle of operation'' explained in those devices  is about interference of two standing waves,  those are: Grenade Standing A-Field with HFreq and inductor standing  A field low freq. Thouse two A-fields must be opposite and of course, must be in resonance and the effect will occur.
 Now Hoppy have a ''principle of operation''.


« Last Edit: December 20, 2016, 12:26:42 PM by conico »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16361 on: December 20, 2016, 05:56:48 PM »
Hi. All those dancing waves presented here and there are related to the scope sampling rate and theory of quantization.
It's not as artificial and uninformative as you suggest.
For example the shape of the current waveform (blue), visible at faster timebases, is the classic current waveform occurring in saturating ferro-cored transformers.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16362 on: December 20, 2016, 07:02:34 PM »
It's not as artificial and uninformative as you suggest.
For example the shape of the current waveform (blue), visible at faster timebases, is a classic current waveform in a saturating ferro-cored transformer.

Good day Verpies

Did you notice that the Blue Spikes (saturation peaks) are intermittent signals and seem to correspond to the Karcher pulses (apexes of Inductor/grenade sinewave). This can be seen when he changes the time domain/resolution on the scope.  I mentioned this in my post but no-one commented on it.  Now that you mention possible saturation of the yoke core, we have come full circle from our post last week.

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Kapanadze devices and replications / Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« on: December 16, 2016, 07:35:52 AM »
Quote from: lost_bro on December 16, 2016, 01:19:20 AM
The Grenade and Inductor are Air Core coils, so the only material to be affected would be the Cu metal in the windings.
Quote from: verpies
...and their insulation.

Quote from: lost_bro on December 16, 2016, 01:19:20 AM
Don't know if that counts, unless the HV pulse could travel back to the Yoke core/coil windings through the Grenade windings.
Quote from: verpies
Indeed it could.

Why would these *apparent* saturating fero-core XFRMR wave forms appear to be in *sync* with the apexes of the Grenade sinewave?  The only ferro-core in the system is the yoke core..................

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT: actually it seems the blue saturation spikes/peaks are *firing* antiphase just before TDC (top dead center) of the apexes.  This would correspond exactly to when the Karcher fires its pulse(s).


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16363 on: December 20, 2016, 07:43:32 PM »
Good day All

Just to confuse matters, I will add:
So, the question is: does he have a ballast resistor across his CT?
And what are we actually seeing?

take care,peace
lost_bro

« Last Edit: December 21, 2016, 02:32:20 AM by lost_bro »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16364 on: December 20, 2016, 07:49:16 PM »
Did you notice that the Blue Spikes (saturation peaks) are intermittent signals and seem to correspond to the Karcher pulses (apexes of Inductor/grenade sinewave). This can be seen when he changes the time domain/resolution on the scope.  I mentioned this in my post but no-one commented on it.  Now that you mention possible saturation of the yoke core, we have come full circle from our post last week.
I did not analyze it that deeply to notice the correlation with the Kacher waveforms.  I just peeked in here and noticed the unmistakable resemblance to saturation current waveforms.
If it correlates with other waveforms than all the more credit to your observational powers.

Why would these *apparent* saturating fero-core XFRMR wave forms appear to be in *sync* with the apexes of the Grenade sinewave? 
This is the classical picture of the voltage waveform vs. the current waveform in a primary winding of a saturating transformer driven by a sine voltage source.
In the primary of a transformer, the phase between voltage and current depends on the loading of the secondary.  Ideally, without any such loading, the primary V vs. I phase should be at 90º (zero real power).  With heavy loading, that phase approaches 0º.

actually it seems the blue saturation spikes/peaks are *firing* antiphase just before TDC (top dead center) of the apexes
The "antiphase" is just an artifact of scope probe connection.  If one probe was reversed then they would be in-phase.

The only ferro-core in the system is the yoke core..................
Most likely that's it, but AFAIR there is also a ferro rod at the grenade.