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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11716052 times)

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16275 on: December 12, 2016, 12:15:10 AM »
The system in question is based on the premise that a complex standing wave pattern (ie: superimposed) is bombarded at the correct time in space by a HV electrostatic field
When you write "HV electrostatic field" do you mean it or do you have a time-varying HV field in mind ?

BTW: a HV standing wave can be visualized as depicted here, without spectrum analyzers.

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« Reply #16276 on: December 12, 2016, 12:19:13 AM »
It would seem that this would make the operating frequency a function of the physical dimensions of the windings?
...and the dielectric constant of the wire insulation, which would explain the replication difficulties

How would this be affected by a multi-layer winding  scheme, as we now have two distinct circumferences?
Multiple layers would mess up the precise superposition.  Maybe such precision is not necessary.
Take a look at this document.  It depicts a similar setup.  The user "Qwert" was helping us with understanding it here.

And if the cable is NOT coaxial? It is now not a transmission line in the strictest sense?
Yes, but every bifilar winding approximates a transmission line pretty well.  Think twin-lead...

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« Reply #16277 on: December 12, 2016, 12:42:26 AM »
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When you write "HV electrostatic field" do you mean it or do you have a time-varying HV field in mind ?
HV electrostatic field is  ELECTROSTATIC FIELD if it's a varying over time then its not electrostatic anymore so its wave! we are talking about a moment in which Tesla/Kacher coil stop moving electrons from top to bottom or otherwise, I call it a 0 movement moment - there is no current but only strong electrostatic field lines existing along wire, you have to sync whatever you have with that moment to get boost from static E field if possible.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16278 on: December 12, 2016, 02:01:36 AM »
When you write "HV electrostatic field" do you mean it or do you have a time-varying HV field in mind ?

BTW: a HV standing wave can be visualized as depicted here, without spectrum analyzers.

Good evening Verpies

Yes, I agree that an 'ElectroStatic Field' can flow, as long as the charge differential/gradient (ie: imbalance) is maintained., so lets call it a dynamic ElectroStatic Field in equilibrium ......  Everything is dynamic in it's basic nature, and only our perspective of it differs.

Actually the idea that I'm trying to convey would be that of an 'E' field of a HV capacitor (capacitor is integral part of CW & CCW Grenade winding) being spiked at it's apex by the Karcher/Tesla coil's *timed* third coil discharge.  This discharged is *supposedly* timed as PolaczekCebulaczek stated: at the Zero Movement Moment (Current Apex from Yoke coil which flows through the Grenade coil/Inductor combo).

So, another question:  Is the Grenade coil with it's CW & CCW windings NON-inductively wound? Is the purpose to cancel-out the magnetic field and augment the ElectroStatic Field?

Remember: These are only ideas, if anyone knew for sure, you could just Google it and get the actual M.O. of the device. I am more interested to learn how to calculate and stack/superimpose the waveforms generated by the Grenade windings.  I believe this is the needed/missing information.  Please note that Akula has a Rigol815 S.A. on his bench, it can be seen in his videos.  And Sergey has a Short Wave transciever with digital display next to his device to test the frequency response in his videos.  Ruslan owns and operates a Radio Station, which it is said that he built and does service on himself.

What does all this have in common?

It's not just blind luck to set up one of these devices. These people are *skilled in the Art* so to speak.

They understand Radio, VSWR, transmission line theory, and have the equipment to build and test the appropriate circuits.

Yes, I have used the Neon bulb before on single layer solenoids, ie; Tesla coils and Slayer coils, but this does not help us with multiple layer windings where the nodes / antinodes are not synchronized...........

take care, peace
lost_bro



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« Reply #16279 on: December 12, 2016, 02:41:43 AM »
yes yes, and I would like to remind all of you about that contraption http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm
I think that our expert Wesley should comment about this, I see a connection.
also: http://overunity.com/6784/the-genesis-project/

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« Reply #16280 on: December 12, 2016, 04:31:00 AM »
HV electrostatic field is  ELECTROSTATIC FIELD if it's a varying over time then its not electrostatic anymore so its wave! we are talking about a moment in which Tesla/Kacher coil stop moving electrons from top to bottom or otherwise, I call it a 0 movement moment - there is no current but only strong electrostatic field lines existing along wire, you have to sync whatever you have with that moment to get boost from static E field if possible.

I really like that explanation, but if a static field by itself was the answer, then we likely would have found this a long time ago with vandegraff generators.  All static but never any current.   So there must be some interaction with the HV static field AND moving current.

I think the answer is quite close to your explanation but with one difference.  If we only apply the HV static offset while there is current flowing, instead of creating an HV plateu it creates a deep pit that allows current to continue flowing; much longer than it normally would have.  Rather than current slowing down it continues to barrel down into the artificial HV sink we created for it.

A resonant circuit has limited ability to store dielectric charge, so by creating this offset we open the door to let current keep flowing.  If we keep that in mind, the Tesla Bifilar winding stuff also starts to make sense.

Attached I think might be the proper area to apply this HV static offset; while current is flowing but decreasing. ;)


Or I'm 100% wrong.  I'm still generating mostly smoke over here so don't consider me a good source on the matter(yet)

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« Reply #16281 on: December 12, 2016, 04:31:56 AM »
double post, my bad.  Can't seem to delete it

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16282 on: December 12, 2016, 04:50:10 AM »
I really like that explanation, but if a static field by itself was the answer, then we likely would have found this a long time ago with vandegraff generators.  All static but never any current.   So there must be some interaction with the HV static field AND moving current.

I think the answer is quite close to your explanation but with one difference. If we only apply the HV static offset while there is current flowing, instead of creating an HV plateu it creates a deep pit that allows current to continue flowing; much longer than it normally would have.  Rather than current slowing down it continues to barrel down into the artificial HV sink we created for it.

A resonant circuit has limited ability to store dielectric charge, so by creating this offset we open the door to let current keep flowing.  If we keep that in mind, the Tesla Bifilar winding stuff also starts to make sense.

Attached I think might be the proper area to apply this HV static offset; while current is flowing but decreasing. ;)


Or I'm 100% wrong.  I'm still generating mostly smoke over here so don't consider me a good source on the matter(yet)

Good day Reiyuki

You are correct, the current is flowing:  It is flowing in the Grenade/Inductor winding through the Yoke connections.  It is the HV spike from the Karcher/Tesla coil Antenna (third coil) which induces the effects you are taking about.

"Actually the idea that I'm trying to convey would be that of an 'E' field of a HV capacitor (capacitor is integral part of CW & CCW Grenade winding) being spiked at it's apex by the Karcher/Tesla coil's *timed* third coil discharge.  This discharged is *supposedly* timed as PolaczekCebulaczek stated: at the Zero Movement Moment (Current Apex from Yoke coil which flows through the Grenade coil/Inductor combo)."

take care, peace
lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16283 on: December 12, 2016, 11:28:31 AM »
Good day Jeg.

Actually I used a resistor in series with the decoupling cap when I was running normal duty cycle range, ie: 10-50%.  On the 3-switch flyback it was a 10 ohm.  On the nano-second pulse GDTs I completely dropped the series resistor and ran only with the cap in series with the primary.
 
The 10 ohm resistor would start to heat up, it dissipates heat in relation to the operating frequency. I found that this resistor has the same over all effect as the Gate resistor on the secondary side (slew rate), it will slow down the rising and falling edges of your waveform.  This is why I removed it from my nano-pulse circuits, was best just to control the edges by Gate resistor. Of course all this depends on your winding technique and the resulting leakage inductance.

Never had a problem with over-driving my GDT drivers when NOT using the series resistor as long as the cap is in place (without the cap the driver will release it's magic smoke), just a faster signal.  Best way is to scope-it, as each GDT is different likewise it's response will be different.

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT: added White Paper;  GDT, XFMR  info.

Thanks bro! I will probably omit it too. Thanks also for the paper! ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16284 on: December 12, 2016, 11:43:55 AM »
Quote from: PolaczekCebulaczek
yes yes, and I would like to remind all of you about that contraption http://www.linux-host.org/energy/sgenesis.htm

Let's take this concept a little further, theoretically speaking...

Ask yourself this question, "What is a negative inductor?"

For all practical purposes, I see a negative inductor as a capacitor.

Next, let's suppose we have a coil, that is nearly non-inductive, on the order of just a few nH or pH.
Now apply a high voltage field as described in the link above.
Would we effectively get a capacitor that is on the order of a few nF or pF?
By applying the voltage field, we just turned our inductor into a capacitor.
This opens the door to getting a parametric oscillator if the timing is done correctly.

Above is step one.

Step two.  Let's add a second coil of wire, but this time much more inductive.
Now we have an air-core transformer when no electric field is applied.
When we apply a high voltage field, any inductance is gone on our first coil--now turned into a capacitor.
If the inductance is gone, we no longer have a transformer.
With no transformer, there is no path for back EMF from load to source.

Sure seems reasonable to me (theoretically speaking of course), the grenade coil is
doing just as I have mentioned, with the Tesla secondary voltage field acting as the switch.

The next logical step is to see if we can test this "negative inductor" concept on an
actual grenade coil.  We need to know how much of a field to apply to get it to switch
from an inductor to a capacitor.  If this can be done with real numbers, all the rest is
just engineering.

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« Reply #16285 on: December 12, 2016, 01:09:17 PM »
and there is an E field around this negative inductor, it's actually two E fields pointing at each other as I have found during my experiments, those fields are trying to induce out of phase current in secondary coil if present,(aren't stepanov transformer was some sort of weird out of phase mumbo jumbo configuration?) and of cource for best effect we should use thick insulation wire and HV psu so the fields have space to expand before they met each other.

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« Reply #16286 on: December 12, 2016, 11:14:11 PM »
Can I make a negative inductor from tesla pancake winding? and place another normal pancake coil on top of it and place both coils in between two metal plates charged with HV? would this make some tasty free energy sandwitch? I would also use mayonnaise for extra dielectric to prevent arcing from plates, yummy!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #16287 on: December 13, 2016, 01:31:11 AM »
Let's take this concept a little further, theoretically speaking...

Ask yourself this question, "What is a negative inductor?"

For all practical purposes, I see a negative inductor as a capacitor.

Next, let's suppose we have a coil, that is nearly non-inductive, on the order of just a few nH or pH.
Now apply a high voltage field as described in the link above.
Would we effectively get a capacitor that is on the order of a few nF or pF?
By applying the voltage field, we just turned our inductor into a capacitor.
This opens the door to getting a parametric oscillator if the timing is done correctly.

Above is step one.

Step two.  Let's add a second coil of wire, but this time much more inductive.
Now we have an air-core transformer when no electric field is applied.
When we apply a high voltage field, any inductance is gone on our first coil--now turned into a capacitor.
If the inductance is gone, we no longer have a transformer.
With no transformer, there is no path for back EMF from load to source.

Sure seems reasonable to me (theoretically speaking of course), the grenade coil is
doing just as I have mentioned, with the Tesla secondary voltage field acting as the switch.

The next logical step is to see if we can test this "negative inductor" concept on an
actual grenade coil.  We need to know how much of a field to apply to get it to switch
from an inductor to a capacitor.  If this can be done with real numbers, all the rest is
just engineering.

Good day Dog-One

Interesting, both Nelson and MagPwr just recently spoke of parametric oscillators /transformers.

Could this be just another co-incidence? ;)

take care, peace
lost_bro

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« Reply #16288 on: December 13, 2016, 09:37:43 AM »
Hi Conico,
I have also some dangerous spikes on the source/drain side of the IRFP260M wich allows 240V..
What i see on my Ruslan7 setup is maybe someone like Verpies, Jeg or Lost_bro reconizes?

Duting driving only the 3 turn coil connected to the inductor i really have nice clean rectangle waveforms.
As soon when i increase the load by using the 30/45/60 turn secundairy connected to the kacher part the source/drain spike occur at the rising edge of the output wave.
It is a very sharp puls.
Also one of the fets has a significant higer puls then the other.
I use 10nf/100ohm snubber which stays cool normally, un fortenately it isn't capable in absorbing the high puls.

Since i reorientated my drivers close to the gates no treshold spikes occur on the gates anymore.
Also i have no significant HV interference little fuzzy resonance at the high level gatesignals...as this seems to be normal.
So it all improved a lot since last posted pictures. But it seems, altough Conico shows no pictures he has the same problem.

Can someone give some suggestions what to do about it?

Now there are no spikes at all in my device , I have two snubbers, one on the PCB , 22 nF 100 Ohm and diode UF4007 and another snubber placed on the yoke 220 nF and 10 Ohm 10W resistor between drains of mosfets and midle 12+12 turns that mins (+) of power supply.
That strong snubber change the frequency on inductor and on wima cap . Now i'll change the 3-4 turns on yoke to 6-8 turns for having the same resonant frequency.

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« Reply #16289 on: December 13, 2016, 02:22:58 PM »
Interesting, both Nelson and MagPwr just recently spoke of parametric oscillators /transformers.
Could this be just another co-incidence? ;)
lost_bro

Indeed, even Tito brought up parametric amplifiers/oscillators, but nobody talks about which parameter is being modified.

I think the variable parameter is permeability.

Applying an HV gradient to a running circuit with current flowing in both directions causes those fast-running currents to run outside the copper, like a skin effect.   I think you could then collect the result electrostatically.

This change in 'virtual permeability' would only show up in circuits with currents running in opposition (non-inductive coils, bifilars, opposed/bucking coils, etc) and it would be proportional to the external static field voltage.


I wonder if we're getting warmer? ::)