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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718003 times)

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15825 on: November 12, 2016, 03:46:42 AM »
Does anyone know why the diode in the schematic shown below seems to be reversed the one near the drain of K2611 tesla driver.
If K2611 is an N-ch MOSFET then it doesn't make sense unless it is a diode that is meant to conduct in reverse such as a transil, transorb, Zener, etc...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15826 on: November 12, 2016, 09:26:47 AM »
The first time I saw more light when I powered Katcher.
resonance frequency of 14 Khz was but when I started Kather frequency doubled to 28 Khz
Tesla coil is not yet in tune with Grenade coil must decrease frequency 90-100 Khz to be in resonance.
Two bulbs of 100w 230v to each give about 50% light and are fitted after the rectifier bridge.
  Geofusion Thanks, you inspired me.

Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15827 on: November 12, 2016, 10:44:55 AM »
   
   Hoppy, I did not say that there was something unusual or unconventional to these circuits, as we have them, now.


Thanks for your clarification on this point Nick.

You ask: "It's interesting to note, that Geo's lights don't change now, when he shows the Kacher's output streaming to a metal object, as it did previously. Nor does it kill the output at the bulbs as it used to do. Why is that so, now?"

I suspect that the alteration to his output circuit from V1 to V3 and positioning of earth wire is damping much of the HV that was affecting the operation of his his push-pull. The fairly stable frequency that you have observed may be an indication of this.

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15828 on: November 12, 2016, 11:38:36 AM »
resonance frequency of 14 Khz was but when I started Kather frequency doubled to 28 Khz
Is there any difference if you just set your push-pull driver to 28kHz without the Kacher?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15829 on: November 12, 2016, 12:32:36 PM »
I did it and the signal from serial cap with 3 turns is small, the resonance of inductor is at 14Khz, so, nothing on 28 Khz.
First of all i must add some wire to secondary of Tesla coil to be in resonance with Grenade.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15830 on: November 12, 2016, 03:23:14 PM »
Is there any difference if you just set your push-pull driver to 28kHz without the Kacher?
Verpies your halo is slipping, Depends on how far out it is, and the bandwidth spread but needs tuning or amplitude will be really down, or just simply on another wavelength.

AG

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15831 on: November 12, 2016, 03:27:47 PM »
   Guys:
   Thanks for the info about the zener diodes. Sounds like they are big power hogs, so, the voltage regulators are the way to go then. I didn't know that about the zeners consuming the output and wasting it to ground.

   Conico:  Nice going.  Good luck with your tuning. 
   Maybe you can make a bit longer video, showing a clearer close up view of your system, next time.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15832 on: November 12, 2016, 04:16:40 PM »
   Guys:
   Thanks for the info about the zener diodes. Sounds like they are big power hogs, so, the voltage regulators are the way to go then. I didn't know that about the zeners consuming the output and wasting it to ground.

What ? That depends on it's size, and look at it's wattage as if it gets hot it's reference voltage will change, the bigger the voltage reference the less dynamic current you can put through it, and it might need a heat sink too.

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15833 on: November 12, 2016, 04:30:00 PM »
Thanks for the info about the zener diodes. Sounds like they are big power hogs, so, the voltage regulators are the way to go then.
Zener diodes have their place as voltage spike snubbers, although they also waste as heat the energy contained in the spikes .  ( My lossless-clamp design recycles the energy contained in these spikes back into the power supply. )

The Zener diodes are not that bad when used the good way.
Linear voltage regulators are not terribly efficient either (especially the ones without the "low-dropout" option) and waste energy as heat according to P = IOUT *(VIN - VOUT ), but as a reward, they provide clean output.
Switching converters have the highest efficiency which can be around 90%, the downside is that they are noisy.

See the attached PDF for a more detailed comparison.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15834 on: November 12, 2016, 05:02:37 PM »
Zener diodes have their place as voltage spike snubbers, although they also waste as heat the energy contained in the spikes .  ( My lossless-clamp design recycles the energy contained in these spikes back into the power supply. )

The Zener diodes are not that bad when used the good way.
Linear voltage regulators are not terribly efficient either (especially the ones without the "low-dropout" option) and waste energy as heat according to P = IOUT *(VIN - VOUT ), but as a reward, they provide clean output.
Switching converters have the highest efficiency which can be around 90%, the downside is that they are noisy.

See the attached PDF for a more detailed comparison.
Yes an interesting reference page, years ago i had a scope 50mhz a 70smodel  it had 2 x 50 volt + and -, shunt stabilizers in it,  such a wast of power ! it just  had a zener between the base and its collector and it worked.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15835 on: November 12, 2016, 05:05:21 PM »
   Guys:
   Thanks for the info about the zener diodes. Sounds like they are big power hogs, so, the voltage regulators are the way to go then. I didn't know that about the zeners consuming the output and wasting it to ground.


Nick,

Its not just zeners that rob energy being transferred from input to output. Any component in the device that gets above ambient temperature is wasting energy, if that heat is not required for a practical purpose. Any looping back from output to input would first need to make-up for these energy losses before it had any chance of self-running and this would clearly not be possible unless the process of looping-back in some way initiates the 'capture' of external energy from some source external to the device or through the transmutation of a material in the make-up of the device, as Wesley is working on with the Coleman device.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15836 on: November 12, 2016, 06:41:06 PM »
  And just how would you know if there is any material or nuclear decay or not going on? Especially while the HV will make any geiger counter sound off.
  If NMR were the case, I would stop working on these devices. But I don't believe that that is the cause of any of the extra energy responsible for THESE types of devices self running. Time will tell...  But, that is what we will need to test, somehow, once we get something self running. 

   As far as I've seen, or can remember, there are no zeners on the Ruslan device, at least not on my device, other than 6v ones on the fets, and what may be inside of the PS. So, there shouldn't be much waste from the zeners there?
   And does this also means that such as on Geo's device, any power output not being used, passed his 5 amp draw from his 15amp PS, is being wasted? Or not?
   
   Overheating of some of the components, yoke coils, and grenade output coil, and Kacher circuit, is still a problem, after running the device for a while. There is already lots of waste being lost as heat.  So, controlling this possible overheating issue may be an important consideration.

   I believe that on Sergey's device diagram he does not use a commercial "el cheapo" PS for the feed back loop.
   He also adds more turns to his yoke secondary, as does Adrian. Which may be the way to go to obtain higher output voltages, than just 60v.

   Hoppy: You mentioned, "Its not just zeners that rob energy being transferred from input to output."
   That is one of the reasons why I want to use the least possible component possible.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15837 on: November 12, 2016, 07:06:11 PM »
  And just how would you know if there is any material or nuclear decay or not going on? Especially while the HV will make any geiger counter sound off.
  If NMR were the case, I would stop working on these devices. But I don't believe that that is the cause of any of the extra energy responsible for THESE types of devices self running. Time will tell... and is what we will need to test, once we get something self running. 

   As far as I've seen, or can remember, there are no zeners on the Ruslan device, at least not on my device, other than what may be inside of the PS.
   Overheating of some of the components, yoke coils, and grenade output coil, and Kacher circuit, is still a problem, after running the device for a while. There is already lots of waste being lost as heat.  So, controlling this possible overheating issue may be an important consideration.  Or not?

   Sergey's device diagram does not use a commercial "el cheapo" PS.  He also adds more turns to his yoke secondary, as does Adrian. Which may be the way to go to obtain higher output voltages, than just 60v.

NMR detection is best answered by Wesley.

Its not just zeners, ordinary diodes can get hot.

Increased secondary turns on the yoke will increase open circuit output voltage but this may not translate into brighter bulbs because of voltage drop due to the loading on the secondary winding. You may find that by adjusting the duty cycle with a PWM push-pull (or even with your mazilli), together with a pulsed cap discharge output, that the bulb(s) will appear visually brighter to the eye with no alteration to the yoke secondary winding. You will have seen some examples of claimed self-runners using pulsed outputs.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15838 on: November 12, 2016, 08:36:24 PM »
Hi guyz,

  all,
Well, I am not here for fame, I am here for research and sharing what I have and what I can.
many thing still have to be solved, I am learning as we all do everyday.
there is absolutely no room for competition...But work together as a Humanity.

Nick,
It's alright, no harm.
The main thing on these devices is the Ionic Wind, The radiant energy which be harvested within the grenade and inductor and synchronizes and yet goes in resonance with it. :) The Electrostatic which is activated will be drawn and goes in phase with the amps
are created on the coils.

All,
Akula and even Ruslan mention BEMF on their talk and diagrams. this what I know.
very important.

So to say is we search for resonance on the coils but it's not only that..
It's to find that spot and Peak where the Ions come in greatly for harvestation!

Edit* This is that external energy most of the ppl are asking for and what it is.

Just to make things a bit different,
there is another resonance spot or harmonic on my device where the freq is higher where my amps go up
till about 7 amps. Of course I have not shown that on recordings but, that is one different one and not so Efficient spot.

 Conico,
Nice work on the bench, I am happy to see those results :).
saw the video.
about the setup on my bench on what you asked.
The kacher's ground I could disconnect and will have the results you have seen on recording with no problem
but it will do better if it's connected to the ground connection of the circuit.
But with or without to get good output needs to fine tune it to get it on right possistion  of waves.
Inductor and the cap in series with 3 turns are also one side connected to ground and first layer Grenade
 in video it's the red wire, can't miss it.
It needs to be connected in this way with this setup to get effect in great condition.
Yes, I do use the scope which is a software on my pc but it's for me to see the wave forms for the moment
and the frequencies but when tuning It's hectic as it can ( almost everytime freeze it) but we can see movement.

My inductor now is 20M
Grenade is 40M

to be exact it is 20.4M with what is not coiled connected to the yoke and caps.
which makes grenade 40.8M.

Edit* 50MMsquar plastic tube

That is it :).

Let's continue on this journey
   
   Cheerz~

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15839 on: November 12, 2016, 09:05:15 PM »

The main thing on these devices is the Ionic Wind, The radiant energy which be harvested within the grenade and inductor and synchronizes and yet goes in resonance with it. :)

   Cheerz~

I rather like that description of the 'effect' Geo.  :) It sounds quite heavenly.