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Offline NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15705 on: November 05, 2016, 04:26:06 AM »
   Verpies: 
   Do I use the same transformer as Ruslan does?  Well, you'll have to ask him about that. But, my yoke is the same size, wound the same way,  and used for the same original purposes in a tv.  You know that we'll never know the composition of both yokes, to determine the answer.  Or did you expect a different reply?
  These are not conventional devices, nor are they closed circuits, and have little to do with normal conventional system operations. 
   So, how do you know that magnets don't change ferrite core permeability?  Perhaps, they don't, maybe permeability is not the proper term then, as the "issue" is about the added gain from magnets,  and not about ferrite core permeability.
   
    What I am doing in these tests are with my own version of Ruslan's device, not an exact replications, but my replication and version instead, using material that I have at hand, along with the recommended fets and transistors. 
I am not trying to just copy Ruslan's device, nor Akulas.

  Magnets added to the yoke can increase output, for whatever reason, whether they change the permeability or not, they add to the gain. Even though at times depending on the running frequency they don't, but mostly on my set up they do work to improve the gain at the output considerably. That is why I mention it.  Tiger did also...

   Of course when the Kacher circuit is connected up to the 28t yoke/grenade coils there is going to be an interaction of some sort. That is the point of it all. But up to now only a couple of us are able to show any added gain (at all) by the two circuits working together, no matter how they are connected up.
   
   Bat1Robin2:
   I am not using any duty cycle controller presently.  Nor do I see what you are talking about on my scope. So, just show us what you think is happening, not by explaining about your take on it,  but by showing it doing so. Show us how the addition of your Kacher's output to the induction circuit can drop the duty cycle of the fets, as well as to please show the brightening of the bulbs using 200w to 300w or higher wattage loads, at the SAME time.  I'll believe it, when I see it... as I doubt that you'll be able show any brightning of the bulbs, by your Kacher's interaction.
   
   I have used two separate PS in the passed. But, that is not how the device is designed to self run, using two separate power sources, instead of being connected up in a way that will allow it self power itself.  As that is what I'm working on now, not to separate the two circuits, but to join them together, instead.
   Please show us in a video using your scope just how your Kacher can drop the duty cycle on the fets in the yoke circuit as you suggest.  Or if you can't do that, then just show how dropping your duty cycle to 20% will show any additional gain at the output load, while lighting the mentioned load of bulbs.
   Mentioning about this, is not the same as showing it doing so.
   

   
   

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« Reply #15706 on: November 05, 2016, 09:54:57 AM »

Hoppy,
Btw, about letting one mosfet drive the system, If I do that, it wont get me to where I need to reach
Necessary drive of two is needed here, Tuning will be completely different if having only 1 fet driving.
It might also not make it possible for me to resonate to where I need to.

Cheerz~ ;D

Geo,

I'm certainly not suggesting that one mosfet should be disabled deliberately, just that this may be happening during operation, as explained by Bat1Robin2. Anyway thanks for posting your second video. I look forward to seeing your scope shots and measurements in part 3.

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« Reply #15707 on: November 05, 2016, 10:02:04 AM »
I have read on some russian forums that all of this devices (ruslan, akula, andrian) have one flaw (apart from being geodepedent) that is, after some time they would stop working and need to be retuned, it seems that power from ionosphere(the source) frequency is changing overtime, huh.

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« Reply #15708 on: November 05, 2016, 10:28:33 AM »
   
   My yoke core does not ring, nor does it make observable interference noises , nor is affected by lifting it up off of the table, and moving it around while it is running.  The distance from the outside of grenade coil to the center of my yoke coil is 7 1/4 inches.
  Of course there is an effect from the nearby Kacher, to the grenade coils. As well as to ones body, and hands moving around the device,  but not in a positive way on my device.  I can't raise the output by placing my hand on the antenna, or near it, that just diminishes the output, instead, interfering with the tuning, but does not improving the output at the bulbs.
 

Nick,

Have you tried interconnecting as per Geo's v3 circuit? It may not be possible for you to achieve the same level of 'effect' as Geo demonstrates, as you are not using a PWM push-pull. Bat1Robin2 has explained what is causing the 'effect' when using a PWM push-pull. I think Geo's 'effect' using his v3 circuit is likely being enhanced by his earth wire throwing his series resonant circuit out of resonance. I would like to see Geo using a lower wattage lamp, say 60W or 100W in place of the 300W in his next measurements demo.

Unless you are prepared to take that extra step and use a PWM push-pull as Geo is urging you to do, neither Bat1Robin2 or anyone else is going to really convince you  that you are wrong when you say that - "These are not conventional devices, nor are they closed circuits, and have little to do with normal conventional system operations" - by explaining or showing you evidence of the cause of the 'effect'. You will need to do these measurements on your bench using your instruments and device to prove the cause of the effect to yourself. Doing this will improve both your knowledge and skills in electronics. I've got far too much work on my bench to even attempt to get back experimenting with this device.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15709 on: November 05, 2016, 11:05:38 AM »
Nick,

Have you tried interconnecting as per Geo's v3 circuit? It may not be possible for you to achieve the same level of 'effect' as Geo demonstrates, as you are not using a PWM push-pull. Bat1Robin2 has explained what is causing the 'effect' when using a PWM push-pull. I think Geo's effect using his v3 circuit is likely being enhanced by his earth wire throwing his series resonant circuit out of resonance. I would like to see Geo using a lower wattage lamp, say 60W or 100W in place of the 300W in his next measurements demo.

Unless you are prepared to take that extra step and use a PWM push-pull as Geo is urging you to do, neither Bat1Robin2 or anyone else is going to really convince you by explaining or showing you evidence of the cause of the 'effect'. You will need to do these measurements on your bench using your instruments and device to prove the cause of the effect to yourself. Doing this will improve both your knowledge and skills in electronics. I've got far too much work on my bench to even attempt to get back experimenting with this device.
Hi.
I am convinced that is not otherwise in a situation Geo described with the above-mentioned effect by:
Bat1Robin2.
- Geo, We look forward to the scope of the gates of transistors and capacitor winding 3 LC.
I've seen what happens when a hand is applied to the heat sink transistor :D
and now you know what happens when you connect GND of the courts oscilloscope to drain.... (If I'm right I will not effect) :D
do not quite understand what's going on in this coil is not she wound differently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poC07RRRCfo&t=21s

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15710 on: November 05, 2016, 11:11:56 AM »
  Itsu:
  Good to see that you are still with us, at least in spirit.
   I don't know if you've seen my last video, lighting up 400 watt bulbs, and showing the amplification effect, which does brighten up the bulbs, more so than just what the induction circuit can do by itself.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr25PT2iM9o

   I've also had some problems with my Kacher getting too hot from too much voltage/current , as it's connected to the 28t coil through a full bridge rectifier/capacitor and then to the Kacher's input.  I need to reduce the input to the Kacher circuit.
  Any ideas?

   Well, I've since then lost the "amplification effect", and I'm still trying to get it back. Not easy to do...  as now I have absolutely no added extra power, when connecting up the Kacher circuit to the induction circuits, and the bulbs remain the same.
 As did yours.
   Once I figure out just what causes the "amplification effect", exactly,  I'll let everyone know. For now I believe it is the way the device is connected up, as the most important point. Even more so than frequency matching, impedance, sync,  etz... or even the ground.
   Geo lit his device bulbs using the negative (or positive) of an old dead car battery, as well.  So...

   How about taking your device outside for a test run, and connecting to an earth ground???  Or car battery negative.
   We would like to see you back in the game. 
   Roma, did not use nor need an earth ground to obtain 4000 watt output. 
   
   
 


Nick,


yes, i have seen your video's as like you said, i am still with you guys.
Its hard to judge your video's for potential overunity, those bulbs look bright, but are they really?


Concerning your Kacher, if it is powered from the 28 turns secondary and that secondary is not used for anything else, i would simply
unwind some of the 28 turns (like go to 20 turns) rectify that and see if the lowered voltage is enough for the kacher to be stable now.


For the "amplification effect",  as Geo showed, grounding is important, perhaps check on your ground, if it still is firmly connected and/or no corrosion has
formed on your ground rod etc.


I was thinking of moving with the Ruslan setup to a seperate room downstairs away from my equipment and with a seperate ground, perhaps i will do that some day.....


Thanks,   regards Itsu 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15711 on: November 05, 2016, 11:51:46 AM »
Nick,

As i have told you many times before the effect that you talk about as the tesla circuit is pulsed and the bulbs get brighter is due to the pulse width change of the yoke fet. Due to its direct connection to the same ground as the tesla pulses it causes a field effect shut off of the yoke fet. It shuts off the yoke drive early and reduces duty cycle to about 20% vs 50 %(and is adjustable by the pot). This is more efficient operation of the yoke which in turn increases output up to the 72% efficiency range. I stumbled upon it only by accident  in the beginning i used 2 separate power supplies for the yoke and tesla when you use too much filter capacitance or isolated power supplies it will not show up follow the schematic and you will see it. But the effect as you say is not an OU effect only a smoke and mirror increase in output effect.  Because tesla is pulsed in mid cycle of the much slower fet drive pulse. This is my experience, also this happens to be the hot running fet on the yoke drive push pull. and will be the first one to fail when overloading the output or going above the 14-40 khz range. I don't know why other than voltage spikes but it does.  I have provided scope shots and videos yet you ignore this info. Scope reveals this right away when it happens, nothing special. NO OU.
PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS CIRCUIT it's unstable !! I built it and could not get it to stabilize some frequencies would be ok but after a time one Fet would draw more current and get hot!

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« Reply #15712 on: November 05, 2016, 03:25:21 PM »
  Well, my fets don't get hot, they don't even need heatsinks, nor does one fet heat up more than the other one.
   I don't have overunity, nor ever will, as that does not even exist.
   The amplification effect that I talk about, is not about overunity, it's about the additional brightness at the bulbs when connecting up the Kacher to the induction circuit. NOT OU! As not one person has overunity, nor will ever show "more out than in". No use wasting time trying to look for it, in that way. Hoppy. The effect that I am showing is the same as Geo's, even without the PWM. I just don't have all the noise and interference, due to his long stray wires like Geo has on his device. Nor do I think that your evaluation is correct, nor Bat1Robin2.  I doubt that Akula, Oleg, Adrian, Ruslan, Roma, and other's that have achieved self running would agree with you, as well.
   IF the device self runs it will be obtaining the energy from "somewhere" as it's input source. That is what we need to look into and study, just how to best tap that source for the highest gain.

   Itsu:  Thanks for your reply.  I'm hoping to not have to remove secondary turns on my yoke to lower the voltage on the rectifier.  Looking for other ways, but will also connect BOTH the Kacher and induction circuits to the rectifier output, so that they will both share the same output from the 28t coil. 
  My earth ground line goes right into my water well, no ground rod to oxidize.
   Looking forward to seeing you back on the bench.

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« Reply #15713 on: November 05, 2016, 03:57:39 PM »
  Itsu:
   I've also had some problems with my Kacher getting too hot from too much voltage/current , as it's connected to the 28t coil through a full bridge rectifier/capacitor and then to the Kacher's input.  I need to reduce the input to the Kacher circuit.
  Any ideas?


 
Use IRF540 or IRF640 transistor and fan for good cooling. And betwenn plus and one end of inductor kacher put 5 W 1 omh or maybe 0.5 omh resistor, that is be protection, to not burn transidtor if something gose wrong.

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« Reply #15714 on: November 05, 2016, 04:29:58 PM »
Use IRF540 or IRF640 transistor and fan for good cooling. And betwenn plus and one end of inductor kacher put 5 W 1 omh or maybe 0.5 omh resistor, that is be protection, to not burn transidtor if something gose wrong.

   I am using a 2SC5200 transistor, on the kacher circuit, and I have a fan and heatsink. Which are not enough, as it's not only the transistor getting hot,  it was also the choke, capacitor, pot, resistors, etz...
  A 0.5 to 1 ohm resistor at the input to the kacher's choke coil, would probably go up in smoke, after a while.  But, I'll try it anyway.  I do have some of the square white 5w ceramic resistors, which I can try, also.
   I replaced the capacitor to a 80v one, which seams to be working ok, the choke has been replaced to different toroid choke that has thicker wire coils, and is working, also.  I think that if I can connect both induction circuit and the Kacher circuit to the same input from the 28t coil/full bridge rectifier,  it may work better. We'll see.

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« Reply #15715 on: November 05, 2016, 04:45:01 PM »
Nick,

you could try something like this (see diagram) to lower the 28turn voltage.  The zener sets the output voltage.
Not sure what influence the kacher HV has on it.


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« Reply #15716 on: November 05, 2016, 04:54:12 PM »
NOT OU! As not one person has overunity, nor will ever show "more out than in". No use wasting time trying to look for it, in that way. Hoppy. The effect that I am showing is the same as Geo's, even without the PWM. I just don't have all the noise and interference, due to his long stray wires like Geo has on his device. Nor do I think that your evaluation is correct, nor Bat1Robin2.  I doubt that Akula, Oleg, Adrian, Ruslan, Roma, and other's that have achieved self running would agree with you, as well.
   IF the device self runs it will be obtaining the energy from "somewhere" as it's input source. That is what we need to look into and study, just how to best tap that source for the highest gain.

Can I ask how you run your KacherTRANSMITON coil is it fee running or not, and if not how is it locked to the desired frequency and what's the band pass frequency of 'your' grenade coil  out of interest ? ?

AG

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« Reply #15717 on: November 05, 2016, 05:22:23 PM »
Hi,
As wrote few days ago, I came back to experiments. I wound new coils (this time according to explanation of Sergiey in movie "VID 1 Обзор доски  FULL (AC)") and started with measuring some resonances on it. Maybe some of you remember the frequency his tesla was running. My first sweep of coil constructed revealed exactly the same freq. (clear dip in coil's impedance on 1.66M). But what is more interesting, such exact frequency is only for 19m grounding cable and proper ground in a garden. With regular house grounding freq is shifted ~100kHz as shown on attached pictures.


01.png -> wide spectrum
02_1660k.png -> narrower with 19m grounding
03_1750k_uziemienie_domowe.png -> narrower with normal mains grounding


Unfortunately while running around this frequency, I noticed no OU effects (so far).


Marek


Hi Beboszek,

Sorry for the late reply.

Nice screenshots in that post, which are from your Grenade i understand.
Are they with the inductor installed?  And if so, what was connected to this inductor (open, 470nF cap or?)?

I think that your Spectrum Analizer and/or your FG are always connected to your house grounding, so the black leads of those instruments are always house grounded.

How would you measure the coil (grenade?) with the ground in the garden only, did you remove the instruments house ground?


I used my DSA815 to characterize my Grenade in a similar way you did i guess (100KHz to 10MHz), see the screenshot below.
The inductor was open, when attaching a 470nF cap to the inductor, things change off course.


Regards Itsu
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« Reply #15718 on: November 05, 2016, 06:26:16 PM »
For NickZ

I had the same problem, too much power at 24V powered Katcher
I made myself choke, the first two were burned insulation, the third choke was too high inductance and low power for Katcher
The fourth choke is close to what I wanted, I can adjust the variable resistor amperage of between 0.3 and 3,6A.
I think the best Choke inductance is 80-100uH for each side  for 24v supply.

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« Reply #15719 on: November 05, 2016, 07:41:12 PM »
   conico:
   Thank you very much for your reply to our problems with the over voltage/current going into the 24v Kacher circuit.
   At this time I have 3 chokes on my device after the full bridge rectifier/capacitor. After having the same problems that you have mentioned concerning the Kacher's choke(s).  I'll look into this issue further, as my 10k pot, and 2k worth of resistors on the Kacher circuit are not enough to lower the current to reasonable levels. If the voltage at the kacher secondary becomes too high, the HV will arc to anything close to it, and start a fire if not stopped in time.
   Possibly a potentiometer at the Kacher's input may also help. 
   Can you tell me about the wire gauge, number of turns needed, and which size and type of choke core are you using?
   Your reply is much appreciated,
                                                 thanks again,
                                                                       NickZ

   BTW:  Your Kacher circuit board, and yoke look very nice and well made.
   

 

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