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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11719394 times)

Utopia Now

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15630 on: November 03, 2016, 02:48:08 AM »
Alexeew Sergey  showed some screen shots  that maybe were from his Grenade     1,66 MHz

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15631 on: November 03, 2016, 03:02:32 AM »
See he is pulsing the tesla katcher coil, and the yellow waveform is mixing and modulating the waveform, it's a sqr wave not a sine wave in the scope shot.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15632 on: November 03, 2016, 03:53:54 AM »
In a nuthshell, DSRD pulse generators are able to generate a very dense frequency spectrum. Tesla coils cannot do that.
See here for an English description, maybe that will help you understand it.

Good day All

@verpies;  Thanks for the excellent translation:  this looks very similar to DSRD device that was discussed at O.U.R......... but looks like is capable of a higher operating freq.

@beboszek; Thanks for posting this document, can you post pic.s of your built device?

take care , peace
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15633 on: November 03, 2016, 08:16:55 AM »
@beboszek; Thanks for posting this document, can you post pic.s of your built device?
Here you go

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15634 on: November 03, 2016, 08:21:13 AM »
See he is pulsing the tesla katcher coil, and the yellow waveform is mixing and modulating the waveform, it's a sqr wave not a sine wave in the scope shot.
Yellow waveform is a current measured on Granate coil.[/size]

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15635 on: November 03, 2016, 09:17:55 AM »

Hoppy

why don't you ask someone who has a working device to show what happens when the Tesla coil /Katcher is running and no grenade MosFets and power, then no katcher but grenade running and the same with ground and then without, assuming they agree, and see what you get

A G

Alien,

I don't need to do that. Its common sense to observe waveforms and do measurements to understand how a particular circuit / device functions. Its up to the individual to do that if they so wish.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15636 on: November 03, 2016, 10:06:40 AM »
In a nuthshell, DSRD pulse generators are able to generate a very dense frequency spectrum. Tesla coils cannot do that.
See here for an English description, maybe that will help you understand it.
Verpies if the thing is just producing a pile of blips one after the other won't it be capable of pliping over flyback pulses in a given time frame assuming it's producing them and the other thing won't it need to be in phase ;) ?

Also look at Adrian's device his isn't that complicated. Kapandarze said on at least one video the two wave forms have to be in phase (not overlapping) .

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15637 on: November 03, 2016, 11:14:07 AM »
Alien,

I don't need to do that. It's common sense to observe waveforms and do measurements to understand how a particular circuit / device functions. Its up to the individual to do that if they so wish.
with respect Hoppy I don't see you observing or doing what you ask others, no offense intended.

Ok Hoppy if I was building a superhet radio IF strip why would I connect a light bulb to the local oscillator /mixer section  to convince myself it was working when i can get an output from the demodulated section a hell of a lot easier and see what's going on ? We are not all commercial entrappers ;) we are experimenting amateurs with limited resources and equipment, well most of us. ;) :) .


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15638 on: November 03, 2016, 01:06:35 PM »
Hoppy, this is a chattering relay driven with 5v and 22ma, i'm looking at the return pulse from the hot end of the coil with a 100 x scope probe and a digital scope and it's almost overloading the scopes capabilities as it's starting to clip the peaks of the waveform, but as soon as I add an earth to the neg end of the Diode all the pulses appear to disappear and the cap charges up with a massive amount of energy.

However you can see the type of waveform works best if you want to blow your scope up feel free, but you have enough info here to get you device off the ground. Good look with your experimenting ! ;)

PS Maplin camera ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15639 on: November 03, 2016, 02:21:54 PM »
Verpies if the thing is just producing a pile of blips one after the other won't it be capable of flipping over flyback pulses in a given time frame assuming it's producing them and the other thing won't it need to be in phase ;) ?
I don't know what role these nanopulses played in Dally's device described in the beginning of this thread, but I read some plausible theories (e.g. here).

I don't know what "flipping the flyback pulses" means or whether it is desired.  I don't know if nanopulses and flyback pulses are interchangeable in some sought after effect or if one is supposed to modify the other.

Also look at Adrian's device his isn't that complicated. Kapandarze said on at least one video the two wave forms have to be in phase (not overlapping).
Phase relationships are important but not in all scenarios.
Do we even have a complete schematic of the recent Adrian's device or its Modus Operandi  or at least its tunning instructions?
Does it even operate on the same principle as the Dally device that started this thread?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15640 on: November 03, 2016, 02:28:58 PM »
I don't know what role these nanopulses played in Dally's device described in the beginning of this thread, but I read some plausible theories (e.g. here).

I don't know what "flipping the flyback pulses" means or whether it is desired.  I don't know if nanopulses and flyback pulses are interchangeable in some sought after effect or if one is supposed to modify the other.
Phase relationships are important but not in all scenarios.
Do we even have a complete schematic of the recent Adrian's device or its Modus Operandi  or at least its tunning instructions?
The nanosecond pulses which cause current in the grenade coil are realistic power.
The relationship between that and transformer action from induction circuit current defines output power.
The question still remains if the current caused by nanosecond pulse+ions electrostatic flow charge of the coil as capacitor and mixed up with current from the induction circuit is what is causing more output power than power spent from the input source in closed loop circuit. Which ends up as open loop system.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15641 on: November 03, 2016, 03:00:33 PM »
  T-1000:
  Now that I found where the "interuptor transistor" is located on the Adrian Kacher circuit. Please let me know how the transistor is supposed to be connected to the rest of the circuit. I've placed Ruslan's diagram, modified by Geo a few posts ago, and again below, so that you can show me on that diagram how to connect the transistor, if you know how.
  Although he is running his device without that transistor being connected up, I'd still like to try it out if possible.
  Do you know what type of transistor is to be used, also?

   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15642 on: November 03, 2016, 03:08:39 PM »
  T-1000:
  Now that I found where the "interuptor transistor" is located on the Adrian Kacher circuit. Please let me know how the transistor is supposed to be connected to the rest of the circuit. I've placed Ruslan's diagram, modified by Geo a few posts ago, and again below, so that you can show me on that diagram how to connect the transistor, if you know how.
  Although he is running his device without that transistor being connected up, I'd still like to try it out if possible.
  Do you know what type of transistor is to be used, also?

 
I would expect the signalling like in akula katcher cicuit. The katcher circuit fires there on push-pull mosfets dead time which is very short period.
Will see soon in the lab if this assumption is correct...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15643 on: November 03, 2016, 03:12:28 PM »
with respect Hoppy I don't see you observing or doing what you ask others, no offense intended.


Alien,

I've already done this with the device setup I had way back at the beginning of this thread, which is why I suggest that its important to observe and measure the things I've been talking about.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15644 on: November 03, 2016, 03:15:20 PM »
Hi Guyz,

I will be uploading a recording soon today with requests which I saw on forum.
but first..

   Nick,
   It's just a simple Kacher circuit, conico, without a duty cycle controller. 
I'm just trying to keep the input volts from going too high to it.

   Geo: Can you explain a bit more about the "interuptor" transistor, and how to incorporate it into the Kacher circuit?
   I know that you haven't tried to do it, yet, but, any info on it would be appreciated. You can PM me if you like, I also use whatsapp, and Skype.  I've called T a couple of times, but he has not responded, yet.

   I also used a "tone generator" and I can't hear the frequencies of 25Khz to 27kHz. But, I can hear yours, and it's the same as the tone generator running a tone of 6.98kHz.  So, I'm still interested in finding the differences. A current pic of the scope shot, would do.  BTW: do you have a scope, or can borrow one?  If not,  don't worry about it.  It's just a curiosity of mine. 
As I'd like to run at a similar frequency, of both grenade and Kacher circuits for comparisons to yours, and to apecore, also. As we have similar somewhat similar set ups of the Kacher/grenade coils system.
  Yes, I know about the TL494, and will go that route, in the future, no need to convince me, I'm already aware of what it can do. However, so far,  I've been able to replicate most of the same "effect" that you are showing up to now, even without it. 
 
  The feed back path is now the tricky part, as well, which is also what I'm dealing with, in the simplest way possible.
For me, simple is what I'm looking for.  Hopefully with commercial controllers that will do the trick, instead of homemade.

Well, I have a file below which will have HD pictures and could Zoom In to see the device of Adrian
very up close and see that there is one more element onboard the kacher.
He does Have an PWM board it's underneath the wooden board where Pushpul yoke is connected.
My lastest diagram.

About Interrupter,
well for what its purpose for in these cases is for us to focus on Collapsing field in pulses.
Abrupt Shut off on kacher/ Tesla, that is where we all need to start. This is where it will call :)
Arunas has pointed this out many times and for what Akula told him and told me and it's all true.
 He has provided schematics which can be followed and should try. this is for everyone.
for the Self run I will need about just a bit more Juice being harvest from the backround and
It will. because voltage at where I connect that bulb is not in range yet to self run and maintain yet,
needs tweaking. Yes I do have a PC Scope which I use to measure and check.
Yes you will need a TL494 or equiv. You will see difference immediately 
Btw kacher also has to be tuned proper spot on the potentiometer, to configure best voltage givin.
See below I have my lastest Diagram, Discard the old one.

  Jeg,
I am not sure yet if the mediator yoke which has impact on input amount.
But what I can say is, without the mediator, my device will not funtion properly.
There will be no Synchronization in my system if mediator is removed. will not go in phase.
If you try to connect without it, Yes, you can have Kacher working alone and Pushpull alone
but not in phase, and Instead of amplifying it seems to want to decrease output without it
or just not working.

The video that I will be posting soon will let you also see what happens if I let kacher only drive.
You will see that kacher is also not pulling much, It might look the same amount when
pushpull is running on it's own. maybe about close to  1 amp. both of them if drivin each.
It's when combination occurs with Mediator and the resonant caps are activated
that is when 4-5Amps kick in as a standart which will stay,
It can Fluctuate few mili amps. but nothing more than that.
I even did hook the Ground wire to a 12 Car battery which is a bad one, which has fluffy charge
( does not hold charge ) using minus as ground. but you will see funny differences.
that will be in video  ;)

Hoppy
I will show some scopes shots soon to show what Is happening,
But what I can already say is, You see a Sinus and when in effect you see a thick Snake ;).

Utopia Now,
if that is your grenade's frequency,
now try to wind kacher on and let it resonate on those freq ranges see what happens.
I my self will be winding a second one on Specific meters soon.

All,
This video here is on the web.
Adrian G is explaining his device, showing a bit up close but low resolution.
It's here I think ppl will know what is missing.
Would be nice for Wesley to translate but, permission is the thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qCl0TKcku0



    Cheers~