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Ed morbus

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15555 on: November 01, 2016, 09:22:18 AM »
I've been on vacation
Does anyone have a link for last circuit diagram

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15556 on: November 01, 2016, 11:23:01 AM »
How long did you go?  I don't think much has changed,  a lot of the Russian stuff is turning out to be misleading, who knows the truth ? try this one ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15557 on: November 01, 2016, 01:21:14 PM »
@Verpies

Attached is a HS N-channel mosfet driver. What i would like is to utilize the negative peak at mosfet's drain and charge with it some caps. My question is if C1 will absorb some of the negative peak's energy, as this is something that i don't want to. If you think so, then i should move to LS P-channel. What is your opinion?

ps. AG, is that a pirate map??? ;D

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15558 on: November 01, 2016, 01:32:09 PM »
Thanks for your coment

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15559 on: November 01, 2016, 03:58:56 PM »
   I have had some problems when connecting my Kacher circuit and full bridge rectifier to the the 28t coil. This is to provide the input to the Kacher circuit with input power to run with.
  The problem is that there is too much power going into the Kacher circuit, and it causes overheating on the Kacher circuit transistor, and other components.  So, How can I lower the output from the 28t coil to the full bridge/Kacher circuit, so that I get only 24v output from the full bridge to the Kacher's input.  My 10k pot and 2000k worth of resistors on my Kacher circuit is not enough to lower the voltage. I also have placed two chokes on it as well.
   Any ideas?

conico

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15560 on: November 01, 2016, 04:06:02 PM »
Did you try the duty cycle lower then 17% ?
You must have a coil sock in katcher diagram , I believe that must have more then 100uH for each part.
 if you change your sock coil the frequency of katcher will change.
 In my Katcher  I supply it at 24v an I have a sock coil at 100uH each part and the power of Tesla coil was low. I change it with a sock of 48 uH each part, a permissive one and my tesla coil is very powerful, 6-8 mm spark with the screwdriver.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15561 on: November 01, 2016, 04:14:42 PM »
   I have had some problems when connecting my Kacher circuit and full bridge rectifier to the the 28t coil. This is to provide the input to the Kacher circuit with input power to run with.
  The problem is that there is too much power going into the Kacher circuit, and it causes overheating on the Kacher circuit transistor, and other components.  So, How can I lower the output from the 28t coil to the full bridge/Kacher circuit, so that I get only 24v output from the full bridge to the Kacher's input.  My 10k pot and 2000k worth of resistors on my Kacher circuit is not enough to lower the voltage. I also have placed two chokes on it as well.
   Any ideas?

Hi Nick
It is supposed that all this high voltage out of the 28T sec, is applied briefly to your katcher driver through a thin sync pulse. If you continuously run your katcher by that voltage you will damage it of course. To do what you want, for me it is better to decrease your Secondary's turns. But is there any point for that? You already have 24V out of your pwr supply.   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15562 on: November 01, 2016, 04:30:53 PM »
   It's just a simple Kacher circuit, conico, without a duty cycle controller. 
I'm just trying to keep the input volts from going too high to it.

   Geo: Can you explain a bit more about the "interuptor" transistor, and how to incorporate it into the Kacher circuit?
   I know that you haven't tried to do it, yet, but, any info on it would be appreciated. You can PM me if you like, I also use whatsapp, and Skype.  I've called T a couple of times, but he has not responded, yet.

   I also used a "tone generator" and I can't hear the frequencies of 25Khz to 27kHz. But, I can hear yours, and it's the same as the tone generator running a tone of 6.98kHz.  So, I'm still interested in finding the differences. A current pic of the scope shot, would do.  BTW: do you have a scope, or can borrow one?  If not,  don't worry about it.  It's just a curiosity of mine. 
As I'd like to run at a similar frequency, of both grenade and Kacher circuits for comparisons to yours, and to apecore, also. As we have similar somewhat similar set ups of the Kacher/grenade coils system.
  Yes, I know about the TL494, and will go that route, in the future, no need to convince me, I'm already aware of what it can do. However, so far,  I've been able to replicate most of the same "effect" that you are showing up to now, even without it. 
 
  The feed back path is now the tricky part, as well, which is also what I'm dealing with, in the simplest way possible.
For me, simple is what I'm looking for.  Hopefully with commercial controllers that will do the trick, instead of homemade.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15563 on: November 01, 2016, 04:37:21 PM »
   It's just a simple Kacher circuit, conico, without a duty cycle controller. 
I'm just trying to keep the input volts from going too high to it.

   Geo: Can you explain a bit more about the "interuptor" transistor, and how to incorporate it into the Kacher circuit?
   I know that you haven't tried to yet, but, any info on it would be appreciated. You can PM me if you like, I also use whatsapp, and Skype.  I've called T a couple of times, but he has not responded, yet.

In akula's katcher http://imgur.com/a/6Bevd the transistors Q2 and Q3 are doing this. The output of that goes to the katcher transistor.
In regards to Skype, I still did not see your contact request...

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15564 on: November 01, 2016, 04:51:44 PM »
In akula's katcher http://imgur.com/a/6Bevd the transistors Q2 and Q3 are doing this. The output of that goes to the katcher transistor.
In regards to Skype, I still did not see your contact request...
don't mind me but the katcher to me is the Tesler coil or in our model the relay coil turning on and off exciting the electrons, now is it Flemings right-hand rule or his left one is the motor and the other the generator. Any one got any thoughts on that ? so what about the TL494 driving the two grenade coils 38 m and 19m anyone know what they are doing? Oh and don't forget the Tesla coil is assumed to be about 10 times the grenade resonant pass frequency.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15565 on: November 01, 2016, 05:01:09 PM »
Nick,

As Jeg has commented, you could reduce the secondary turns but this may adversely affect the rest of your circuit - less bulb brightness. Alternatively, and preferably, a PWM push-pull (which Geo is now urging you to use) might help to reduce your duty cycle, although good control of the duty cycle is not guaranteed because the HV is likely to upset the control of the push-pull duty cycle. I noticed from Geo's video that according to his ammeter reading, his push-pull is running at quite a low power level around 24W (approx. 1A @ 24V), without the Kacher on. What current and voltage is your mazilli running at now?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15566 on: November 01, 2016, 05:03:00 PM »
    T-1000:
    I looked at that schematic of Akulas but, it's not so "simple".  Geo mentioned that just a transistor was added to Adrians "simple" Kacher, as shown on his video. As Adrian's Kacher is the same or at least similar to what Geo, or I am using. Apecore seams to be working on something alone those lines, as well.
   Any ideas about that?

   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15567 on: November 01, 2016, 05:06:11 PM »
    T-1000:
    I looked at that schematic of Akulas but, it's not so "simple".  Geo mentioned that just a transistor was added to Adrians "simple" Kacher, as shown on his video. As Adrian's Kacher is the same or at least similar to what Geo, or I am using. Apecore seams to be working on something alone those lines, as well.
   Any ideas about that?

 
Without PWM control and pulse timing it is enough to place 1 additional transistor on base of the katcher transistor then output of it goes to the ground. When this transistor will be turned on the katcher will stop. This is what was seen in Andrian's katcher circuit with extra transistor in middle of PCB.

conico

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15568 on: November 01, 2016, 05:15:28 PM »
Yes Katcher don't have a duty cycle but Push-pull do and if you lower it will be less voltaje on 28 turns  from the yoke.
 That sock or choke  from Kather is very important , you can change power or frequency  of katcher with it.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #15569 on: November 01, 2016, 05:27:06 PM »
Yes Katcher don't have a duty cycle but Push-pull do and if you lower it will be less voltaje on 28 turns  from the yoke.
 That sock or choke  from Kather is very important , you can change power or frequency  of katcher with it.

Yes, good point. Nick may not have optimised his choke value.