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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11717936 times)

apecore

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14085 on: May 05, 2016, 01:55:27 AM »
Hello Guys,

I will make a summarising document where all test results and attemps will be listed.
Even the coil setup, system configuration and sync method will be described.

Hi Guys,

As i yesterday mentioned  hereby attached the first version of a "Project" document.

Final goal of this document must be that we keep going on the right track, by getting continously overview in what we are doing,.. having done, what results and what not has to be done,...what will result in a as_buit system on paper.  (Only milestones and critical aspects,....discussion and follow up experiments wil be posted as usual)
My profession is QA management, validation etc. thats why i come to this point. 

Also what Dog1 explain yesterday is totally right:
" I wish I knew a way to simplify things down to the bare concepts we could test and validate.  There must be some engineering tricks that can be deployed to allow us to
keep the critical physical aspects accurate and repeatable."


But before i start with further filling the document, i'd like to have a kind of discussion with the " Co_owners",..  (i'm only proposing a way of work and therefore wants commitment about "what" from the participants.)
Think about this proposal and lets starts this discussion in PM about how to proceed so we can decide how and who wants to partiicipates.

Greetings







T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14086 on: May 05, 2016, 11:17:07 AM »
Hi Guys,

As i yesterday mentioned  hereby attached the first version of a "Project" document.

Final goal of this document must be that we keep going on the right track, by getting continously overview in what we are doing,.. having done, what results and what not has to be done,...what will result in a as_buit system on paper.  (Only milestones and critical aspects,....discussion and follow up experiments wil be posted as usual)
My profession is QA management, validation etc. thats why i come to this point. 

This is where it requires direct communication in Teamspeak/Skype/etc as a team. I understand you would like to bring order to chaos but forum-only communications makes that much harder.
Also some of guys are already on Skype but few  of them are shy to engage direct communications. So here is situation :)

apecore

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14087 on: May 05, 2016, 12:48:07 PM »
This is where it requires direct communication in Teamspeak/Skype/etc as a team. I understand you would like to bring order to chaos but forum-only communications makes that much harder.
Also some of guys are already on Skype but few  of them are shy to engage direct communications. So here is situation :)

Skyping is not what i was thinking about,... it must take less time of all of us.
As we now are performing in the forum is "OK"...  i think in the way Itsu is reporting,.... it must be enough.
Also the way you guys are anticipating on that information in the forum is well enough...
The only thing is that we must agree in conclusions in such a way that i know i can put it in the document.
The document must not replace the forum,...  only highlights and crucial results,...working methods etc.
Discussion as we already do belongs on the forum.

Greetings

T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14088 on: May 05, 2016, 01:04:12 PM »
Also the way you guys are anticipating on that information in the forum is well enough...
To me it is not enough. A lot of misunderstandings happen on that way as well. The best case is just 10 minutes live chat than tens of posts in forum which do not transfer meaning of the concepts/etc.
And you can always reach by Skype when needed. There are also active people pursuing Kapanadze style replication on own benches.

Cheers!

apecore

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14089 on: May 05, 2016, 01:07:59 PM »
To me it is not enough. A lot of misunderstandings happen on that way as well. The best case is just 10 minutes live chat than tens of posts in forum which do not transfer meaning of the concepts/etc.
And you can always reach by Skype when needed. There are also active people pursuing Kapanadze style replication on own benches.

Cheers!

Ok clear,... for me its also no problem to skype.
Lets wait and hear what other members think about it.
Thanks for your input T-100

 :D

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14090 on: May 05, 2016, 05:01:30 PM »

Hi apecore,

great initiative, but as T-1000 already mentioned, there is a lot of confusion and misunderstanding going on because nobody really knows
what the correct MO (modus operandi), diagram, tuning sequence, etc. is.
So putting some highlights, crucial results and working methods in your document is fine, but we only know if it is of value if it produces the wanted effects.

Further more, most of us are doing this out of interest or motivation, but often that interest shifts to other projects leaving this thread dormant for weeks / months
 
Hopefully your  QA (quality assurance) management skills are able to put some order into this chaos, i will try to contribute as before as presently i am motivated to
get this nano-pulse hybrid going.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14091 on: May 05, 2016, 05:21:44 PM »

I made these changes and observations:

# rewound the grenade layers 3,4 and 5,6 to be of opposite direction of layers 1,2 (again).
# Disconnected the 28 turn yoke secondary from the grenade (left it open)
# connected the 6th layer return wire of the grenade to ground.

The results are similar as earlier reported.

Shifting the coax cable coil away from the inductor/grenade has i big influence on the output of both the inductor and grenade.
Probably the Q of the inductor suffers greatly from this tightly coupled coax coil.


I will rewind the inductor / grenade so that the coax coil is between the exposed layers 1,2 of the grenade and the inductor leaving the Q of the inductor
unchanged hopefully.

Another change is the adding of this free running parallel LC coil, which should be first on the former (i think) and needs a parallel resonance frequency
of 15.8KHz (i think), same as the inductor series LC resonance via the push-pull driver.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14092 on: May 05, 2016, 07:50:06 PM »
@ITSU,

I think this was a coil wound with the same wire as a Tesla coil secondary (I seem to remember that) 26 awg or so, I would think the resonant point would be in the 1.5 to 1.8Mhz area, a harmonic of the 15Khz LC tank. In any case the wire gauge would need to be smaller since the 12 or 14 awg wire for the grenade is very long and folded back on itself a few times, I would think you would want a single layer correct? Potentially spanning the entire length of the grenade 12 or 14gauge coil.

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14093 on: May 05, 2016, 08:52:41 PM »

Hi Starcruiser,

yes, a 300 turn or so single layer Tesla secondary like coil.
I have one which selfresonates (in a kacher setup) at 1MHz, but i just tested it with a 47nF capacitor parallel, then this LC resonates at 12.8Khz.

So i will use a similar coil underneath the grenade spanning the whole length and set the resonance to the same 15.8KHz (or so) my pushpull is putting out
to excite the series LC inductor/wima caps.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14094 on: May 06, 2016, 12:38:30 PM »
Hi.

I think that you are interested.This test system using both the coils in the opposite direction
 I am of the opinion that as described Itsu : "Does that mean that according to Akula the Grenade should be (like it was) layers 1, 2 CW, layers 3, 4 and 5, 6 CCW"
 Yes.
I heard that the layer 1, 2 CW above  It contains a clamp aluminum foil (open circuit end)
-interesting is that the system tank circuit "LC"  the determination of harmonic It does not affect the resonance behavior does not  changes when we turn on the load!
I thought that this is a very important issue And at least for me. Something for a long time I could not understand why is it that he has this "state of resonance"?
I recommend to see :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX9tn2NxWuQ
8:27
Itsu
you are predisposed to get closer to this effect obtaining answers to this ill (I follow your charts the course and the interaction effect of pulses on the coil)
-fills this new optimism :D
very cool I think you guys can see it how are you try and appreciate it.

Also considering this option that the circuit 28T. the yoke It could be used only to power the Tesla coil as it was in the case of "Akula" for this reason

not saying that this second example is wrong
 
I have this big handicap the resistance of the circuit 28 winding It has a sizable advantage on power consumption from the power supply
(power curve) you would have to figure it out...

inductor creates a magnetic flux but if he had variable directions on the oscilloscope it looks like a flowing "fish" you've seen it on the installment Ruslan (as modulation AM)
it seems to me as if two frequencies they overlap?
yet there is no end something is smoldering :P
I greet you with warmth.

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14095 on: May 07, 2016, 07:43:16 AM »
I recommend to see :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX9tn2NxWuQ
8:27


Thanks Tomtech :)
Looks interesting even i don't understand Russians. Can you or anybody else describe with few words the main point?

Tomtech29

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14096 on: May 07, 2016, 12:48:30 PM »
Thanks Tomtech :)
Looks interesting even i don't understand Russians. Can you or anybody else describe with few words the main point?
HI.
I know this is difficult to understand the whole problem lies in the fact that no one the people who built the device,does not provide information which uses the structure and how to proceed when tuning!
- just as we hear it without the expertise act as processes or resonance in the resonance.
lack of a competent person who acts systematically and in stages contributing to the education of other people who want to develop in this direction
at the beginning it looked like this:
disbelief and curiosity - Now we have the disappointment and inefficiency.
There is no denying that it is like any novelty but that is still something does not work
 I come back to this footage
- we see there two coils similar to the "grenade" both outputs of the coil are connected to a capacitor and  bridge rectifier and load several light bulbs
As in each of the types of notes :D
the fun lies in the fact that while tuning push-pull time period between pulses or filling from 50% to 32% take generator  two channels set it at 180 degrees
 We connected to the primary winding our yoke a probe placed on the inductor there he uses capacitors 2uF. a series circuit Now it's on the oscilloscope while it uses 30% We see such a step pike amplitude sine blue top
This is our tension
- in the linear coil which exhibited Ruslan multilayer coil tumors had an impact on the inductor and thereby resonance was not in place!
This means that changes in coil resistance changed its capacity for it was necessary to stabilize the system: PLL
-in the case of this construction we have the effect of coil that: under load amplitude grenade output decreases, but phase resonance Induktor does not move!
I tried to explain it to you, but I do not know how "Ruslan" He demonstrated several light bulbs of the push-pull circuit Nothing contributing using HV.

Now see 4:35 how he uses the function generator of power ()mW under full load several light bulbs how much amplitude of the (flattens) I think it is obvious.
-001 Fiedor also says that the coil has a low inductance, unfortunately, does not say how much uH.
characteristic Yellow output amplitude this kind of comb (mustache) reduces Duty cycle independent channels.

Jeg

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #14097 on: May 07, 2016, 03:18:39 PM »
Thanks for trying Tomtech. I appreciate it.


Tomtech29

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« Reply #14098 on: May 07, 2016, 09:00:45 PM »
Hi.
It needs the same PCB design but in PDF format with inverted color in a laser printer black and white I wonder about the thermal transfer "toner"(I bought a printer and appropriate paper)
create a design from scratch it would take me forever (I fired a program to create a PCB) zzz
maybe someone already has the formula and could help?

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« Reply #14099 on: May 07, 2016, 09:02:17 PM »
and this also