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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11719051 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13815 on: April 22, 2016, 03:20:29 PM »
    T-1000:
    We're waiting for you to show us what you've got going, and how well it's been working out.
    Geo's still having problems, and the rest of us are stuck on obtaining no extra energy from any of our devices.
    Tomtech, Itsu, Void, etz... as well as myself would like to see something that works.  As so far,  it's still  no cigar.

    Akula, Ruslan, or Nelson aren't telling all their secrets, as yet, either.
    I tried to do what Nelson has done in my own way, but, I can't run my Kacher on 11v, and no current.
    So....
    It may be time to replicate a simpler but supposed working self runner. Like the Roma device.  If we only could.
    Too many secrets still.  And so, No One has replicated the Ruslan devices, to work as they should.
 Not good...

Hoppy

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« Reply #13816 on: April 22, 2016, 04:38:55 PM »
   
    It may be time to replicate a simpler but supposed working self runner. Like the Roma device.  If we only could.
    Too many secrets still.  And so, No One has replicated the Ruslan devices, to work as they should.
 Not good...

Nick,

Have you tried the simple Joule thief type circuit you posted from Nelson earlier? This maybe be a better way to progress as Nelson did. Kapanadze's / Ruslan's  methods of operation may not be the same as Nelson's, so there maybe at least a couple of ways to skin the cat.  :) I'll probably knock this one up for experimentation when I've completed my current electronics work project. 

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« Reply #13817 on: April 22, 2016, 04:47:42 PM »
Ok i have an idea the katcher outer coil 6 turns ok know what I'm talking about if you put say 3 or 4 kv static charge on it and the zero feed down to earth you would have 3 kv more than the earth around that coil environment and spark gap it in phase, have you got that ? now the katcher coil run that at 1.5 mhz like a transmitter and your grenade coil at 150 kh phase locked. then try it !

NickZ

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« Reply #13818 on: April 22, 2016, 06:08:00 PM »
Nick,

Have you tried the simple Joule thief type circuit you posted from Nelson earlier? This maybe be a better way to progress as Nelson did. Kapanadze's / Ruslan's  methods of operation may not be the same as Nelson's, so there maybe at least a couple of ways to skin the cat.  :) I'll probably knock this one up for experimentation when I've completed my current electronics work project.

  Hoppy: I see that the Roma device can crank out kWs of power, from a very simple Kacher circuit as the pulse circuit source.
If true.  So, I'm intrigued by that device and it's simplicity, along with it's outstanding output.
 
   I'm also intrigued by the way that Nelson's device can work on NO current, and still produce a useable although more limited output. And even self run, while lighting some bulbs, motors, etz...  However, it does requires a much higher component count to work, compared to the Roma device, but uses fewer coils. Or at least not as big. Maybe the reason of it's lower output, compared to Roma's device.
  So, I'm still tossing all this around, while playing at the bench, but getting no where, fast.
  And, as Nelson wants to keep the main secret of it's mode of operation, a secret still, he offers no more hints. ..
  What can I  do?  I'm still looking for the "amplification effect", which can also be adapted work with the Ruslan/Akula device.
   

Void

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« Reply #13819 on: April 22, 2016, 06:42:10 PM »
I'm also intrigued by the way that Nelson's device can work on NO current, and still produce a useable although more limited output.

Hi Nick. The built-in ammeter on Nelson's bench power supply has a resolution of 10 mA, so
when that ammeter reads 0.00 A, the current can be anywhere from 0 to 9.99 mA. Nelson's
circuit is probably still drawing some current when the ammeter on his power supply reads
0.00, but all we can tell from the power supply ammeter when it is reading 0.00 is that it is
less than 10 mA.

Hoppy

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« Reply #13820 on: April 22, 2016, 07:01:24 PM »
 
  What can I  do?  I'm still looking for the "amplification effect", which can also be adapted work with the Ruslan/Akula device.
 

You could try building and experimenting with the circuit from Nelson given that your Ruslan replication is giving no positive result.

Hoppy

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« Reply #13821 on: April 22, 2016, 07:08:23 PM »
Hi Nick. The built-in ammeter on Nelson's bench power supply has a resolution of 10 mA, so
when that ammeter reads 0.00 A, the current can be anywhere from 0 to 9.99 mA. Nelson's
circuit is probably still drawing some current when the ammeter on his power supply reads
0.00, but all we can tell from the power supply ammeter when it is reading 0.00 is that it is
less than 10 mA.

I have a similar bench supply and I have seen when experimenting with high voltage circuits, that the ammeter can give very false readings. Never rely on digital ammeters for this type of experimentation. Always scope for current using a shunt.

Void

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« Reply #13822 on: April 22, 2016, 07:19:55 PM »
I have a similar bench supply and I have seen when experimenting with high voltage circuits, that the ammeter can give very false readings. Never rely on digital ammeters for this type of experimentation.


Hi Hoppy. Sure, I am aware of that and I have mentioned that in this thread probably a couple
of times already as well, but in my experience that is more of an issue with higher power high voltage
circuits such as kacher drivers and HV sparkgap driver circuits. Very low power blocking oscillator circuits
usually don't cause such issues in my experience even if they have a high voltage winding or something
along those lines. The ammeter often jumps around at least a bit in the case where HV is causing the
ammeter to misread, so that is something to watch for if you think a digital ammeter may be reading incorrectly.
If Nelson's circuit that Nick was referring to was a kacher driver, then the power supply digital ammeter reading
could possibly have been giving some false readings, but not necessarily... :)



NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13823 on: April 22, 2016, 07:24:42 PM »
  A small pile of galvanic cells can provide 12v voltage, and a few mA to keep his Nelson's circuit running. As his circuit draws no current, almost.   Or maybe something else with at least 9 volts and a few mAs, or like a super cap, to keep the oscillator going.  In any case something seams very strange and possibly unique with Nelson's device, even if it only has a 10mA draw, or less.
  It be good to know how long a test drive it's been given, like a break in period test,  for burn ins, and burn outs.
  But, I guess he's off to bigger and better projects and ideas.

   BTW: Nelson said something about not having a conventional power supply for the self runner. But, what about something like some galvanic cells, (like Crystal Cells), use a small bank of them that can put out 12v, and a few mAs. The cells will continue to put out that voltage, and current until they breaks down, could be months, or years.  A no current oscillator like Nelsons could run on that for quite a while. But, is that how he does it?  Or, just how,  how,  how??? How can he do it...
                                                                                                                                         I can hear him laughing...

Hoppy

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« Reply #13824 on: April 22, 2016, 07:26:32 PM »


Hi Hoppy. Sure, I am aware of that and I have mentioned that in this thread probably a couple
of times already as well, but in my experience that is more of an issue with higher power high voltage
circuits such as kacher drivers and HV sparkgap driver circuits. Very low power blocking oscillator circuits
usually don't cause such issues in my experience even if they have a high voltage winding or something
along those lines. The ammeter often jumps around at least a bit in the case where HV is causing the
ammeter to misread, so that is something to watch for if you think a digital ammeter may be reading incorrectly.
If Nelson's circuit that Nick was referring to was a kacher driver, then the power supply digital ammeter reading
could possibly have been giving some false readings, but not necessarily... :)

Nonetheless, a scoped reading is what I would like to see from Nelson.

Hoppy

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« Reply #13825 on: April 22, 2016, 07:35:06 PM »

   BTW: Nelson said something about not having a conventional power supply for the self runner.

Yes Nick. A point I have made a few times recently! I've seen only one guess from Alien as to what this may be.

NickZ

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« Reply #13826 on: April 22, 2016, 08:16:39 PM »
  Now you have my thoughts,as to what that unconventional supply might be.
But, how can the oscillator run on no amps, or even on 10 MA,or less. How?

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« Reply #13827 on: April 22, 2016, 08:35:25 PM »
But, how can the oscillator run on no amps, or even on 10 MA,or less. How?


Hi Nick. It is actually quite easy to get a standard joule thief circuit to run at very
low input current draw in the low microamps current draw range by increasing the
base resistor value, and by having lots of turns for the collector winding.

I am attaching some pictures of such a joule thief circuit I put together quickly using
a normal AC iron transformer. I used the center tapped 240V/120V primary winding
as my base and collector joule thief windings. :) They have quite a high inductance so it makes
the joule thief run at quite a low frequency.  The power supply was set to around 1 volt and the
power supply current draw was adjusted to 100 uA by adjusting the 1 Meg Ohm variable base potentiometer
to around maybe 600k or 700k Ohms or so.  The two jumbo white LEDs only light up quite dimly when adjusted
for 100 uW (approx.) total circuit power consumption. I can adjust the base potentiometer to an even higher resistance and
the joule thief circuit will keep oscillating at an even lower input current draw, but then the LEDs will go out. :)
Not too bad for 100 uW power consumption I guess, but I certainly can't power any light bulbs with this setup,
at least not yet.  ;D

Hoppy

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« Reply #13828 on: April 22, 2016, 08:35:54 PM »

But, how can the oscillator run on no amps, or even on 10 MA,or less. How?

It can't run on no amps.

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« Reply #13829 on: April 22, 2016, 09:54:31 PM »
Hoppy:
Why do you think the circuit is a "simple" joule thief? It's not even comparable!
Simple is you think that! I worked immense months in  this circuit observing all possible and impossible points scrutinizing every detail in order to understand certain aspects that were crucial to advance.

 Magpower was the only one who knew how to give the benefit of the doubt and i have authorized to replicate the same, giving me after test the circuit , the credit  and say in private  message that I was not bluffing and apologized to me for being aggressive at first sight about my claims.
This circuit and others that i made  has nothing to do with joule thief! Is a approach to learn and think about are observed .


Nick:
If you remember well my words months ago I said:
It is not necessary to use the karcher circuit to get the same effect of karcher,can be achieved more "economically" with another type of approach, without having to use the same expensive configuration as Ruslan use. This is the reason in that time to share the circuit exciter , but well i misunderstood.

Void :

See the diference between you test circuit and  my circuit  in scope :
The wave seems very different or not ?  See very well . Do you think my circuit is a "simple joule thief" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfpG9wFw4iI

I already say that my work is not a bluff , or a fake like some guys put in youtube , i provide some important information and lecture about people really need to read and understand .
I already say that is important understand some concepts by Tesla  that he left to us like extra coil , even the wireless transfer , that are misunderstood by the most but , most of you can think out of box ... what a pity  because some of you are, or were electronics engineers and have the necessary formation to understand certain subjects displayed here, and instead some are limited to guess or speculate whether it is true or not the work of some persons.

I say several times :
is not by  induction what people search... and people run say that is not possible and is a joke bla bla bla .

People look well to that video and judge what  type of power transfer is used in  this model test circuit https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bXVlS3a_rPPV9nO1vHv4DYxU88SFzE9TWA/view?usp=sharing

Is a normal induction transfer ? ;)