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nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13575 on: April 14, 2016, 08:48:51 PM »
@Nelson: Thanks for those quotes.
The guy in this video seems to be using an extra coil to get high voltage out
with low input power. You can see the extra coil hanging down towards the floor from the
end of the tesla coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP5FiCbLu5M



Hi Void,
just i try to say several times the effect that most people search about this theme (kapanadze) is not by induction . The extra coil not work inductively coupled ,and need to be free of interaction  with and induction factor otherwise the pressure will not raise freely because if coupled inductively the secondary output will be limited by primary .
Tuning and make this circuit work like Tesla say is a state of art but sometimes misunderstood. He said that because now one are able to create so high pressures in a economical way and because is difficulty to tune ; you could see clearly that, by read their notes and the several try's made by Tesla show that .

Tesla never talk in over unity like we call actually,  even Tesla used in their experiments power source , like batteries but is sad all time that could produce the same commons effects in a economical way in comparison with other convencional systems , and that we consider in hour days OU, like light several bulbs with a low power input , like some fellows show .  But the question raise when people think and talk about how to take out something  without nothing , and this is a erroneous way to think about this theme .
The ground is  one of most important  point in the equation ,  but only will work if the other piece of the puzzle interact in the correct way .
But you and other people will ask ? What ground have to do with that, to make possible extract more then the input or even able to make the circuit auto sustained ?
To that people need to think even invisible to our eyes the "fuel"  come from the ground, but to make that the Tesla concept or higher advance circuits, need to interact in the correct way with the ground , because "fuel" are underground in soil , and only will activated and "pumped" if everything are properly designed and understood ;)
Even Tesla seems not have a full ideia of what happen . Thomas Moray give the next step , and after him others promote in Russia based in work of Thomas Moray  more advanced circuits to reach higher power outputs  at the 70's.

After that contribution , you and people really interested in this matter could try to find what is that fuel easily find in nature underground,  that react with high negative electrostatic pressures capable to be converted in electrons again  , and That is what Tesla and others call by ether or emanation from ground .

 Energy can not be destroyed only converted from one form to another :)



PS - Not only in the ground could be in gaseous state to ;)
   
       



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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13576 on: April 14, 2016, 08:57:26 PM »
Are you sure about that Nelson Moray appeared to think otherwise he seemed to think all you need is a spark and magic happens, one of his famous statements was quote  'from a spark I can make a forest fire'  I my self would like to see someone prove it !

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13577 on: April 14, 2016, 09:02:23 PM »
Are you sure about that Nelson Moray appeared to think otherwise he seamed to think all you need is a spark and magic happens, I my self would like to see someone prove it !


Hi Alien gray , iam sure ! If you read very well Thomas Moray notes we  only able to do that in the last circuits with their famous stone ;)  used in detector .
After that he understand what really happens and how to made even without ground , when he demonstrated their circuit in a plane :)


PS -Way you think we talk about ions ?
cheers 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13578 on: April 14, 2016, 09:07:14 PM »
Hi Void,
just i try to say several times the effect that most people search about this theme (kapanadze) is not by induction . The extra coil not work inductively coupled ,and need to be free of interaction  with and induction factor otherwise the pressure will not raise freely because if coupled inductively the secondary output will be limited by primary .
Tuning and make this circuit work like Tesla say is a state of art but sometimes misunderstood. He said that because now one are able to create so high pressures in a economical way and because is difficulty to tune ; you could see clearly that, by read their notes and the several try's made by Tesla show that .

Tesla never talk in over unity like we call actually,  even Tesla used in their experiments power source , like batteries but is sad all time that could produce the same commons effects in a economical way in comparison with other convencional systems , and that we consider in hour days OU, like light several bulbs with a low power input , like some fellows show .  But the question raise when people think and talk about how to take out something  without nothing , and this is a erroneous way to think about this theme .
The ground is  one of most important  point in the equation ,  but only will work if the other piece of the puzzle interact in the correct way .
But you and other people will ask ? What ground have to do with that, to make possible extract more then the input or even able to make the circuit auto sustained ?
To that people need to think even invisible to our eyes the "fuel"  come from the ground, but to make that the Tesla concept or higher advance circuits, need to interact in the correct way with the ground , because "fuel" are underground in soil , and only will activated and "pumped" if everything are properly designed and understood ;)
Even Tesla seems not have a full ideia of what happen . Thomas Moray give the next step , and after him others promote in Russia based in work of Thomas Moray  more advanced circuits to reach higher power outputs  at the 70's.

After that contribution , you and people really interested in this matter could try to find what is that fuel easily find in nature underground,  that react with high negative electrostatic pressures capable to be converted in electrons again  , and That is what Tesla and others call by ether or emanation from ground .

Energy can not be destroyed only converted from one form to another :)

PS - Not only in the ground could be in gaseous state to ;)

Hi Nelson. Thanks for the detailed comments. I think I understand what you are saying and I agree that
the excess energy must come from somewhere. I am regularly conducting many experiments based on this
line of thinking, but my brain seems to be quite slow in putting all the pieces together in the right way. :) It
wouldn't surprise me if I have been staring at a solution for quite a long time already but my brain just can't
seem to to put it together in the right way yet. :) I will think more about what you are saying here and see if I
can put it together. Thanks mate.

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13579 on: April 14, 2016, 09:46:13 PM »
Hi Nelson. Thanks for the detailed comments. I think I understand what you are saying and I agree that
the excess energy must come from somewhere. I am regularly conducting many experiments based on this
line of thinking, but my brain seems to be quite slow in putting all the pieces together in the right way. :) It
wouldn't surprise me if I have been staring at a solution for quite a long time already but my brain just can't
seem to to put it together in the right way yet. :) I will think more about what you are saying here and see if I
can put it together. Thanks mate.

Void ,
myself many times have some difficulties to linking and apply in practical my ideias;)  Is normal in research Work  because some of this informations are most of time "underlines" .
The most important sometimes is try to not let hour brain polluted because are so many information and different opinions about  this type of subjects .
about the post of Grumage with my old video is really a scissors  make contact with ground but in end of video in last minutes i show without ground , but that prototype are to old (8 months) but i  have that box yet in my home in Portugal, like other smaller basic circuits that i make  to record myself  that great things are made with first small results. :).
I think the important at present is understand how to replicate the extra coil circuit first and to that Last Bro start sharing a good information .
 If we have a big problem , better don't try to solve that in one shot ; better divide the big problem in small parts and it will more easy the journey  until end :)

good luck

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13580 on: April 14, 2016, 10:01:00 PM »
Void ,
myself many times have some difficulties to linking and apply in practical my ideias;)  Is normal in research Work  because some of this informations are most of time "underlines" .
The most important sometimes is try to not let hour brain polluted because are so many information and different opinions about  this type of subjects .
about the post of Grumage with my old video is really a scissors  make contact with ground but in end of video in last minutes i show without ground , but that prototype are to old (8 months) but i  have that box yet in my home in Portugal, like other smaller basic circuits that i make  to record myself  that great things are made with first small results. :).
I think the important at present is understand how to replicate the extra coil circuit first and to that Last Bro start sharing a good information .
 If we have a big problem , better don't try to solve that in one shot ; better divide the big problem in small parts and it will more easy the journey  until end :)

good luck

Void

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13581 on: April 14, 2016, 10:12:07 PM »
Hi Nelson. Yes, I try to break things down to simple pieces in my testing.
I will look more at the idea of the extra coil resonating freely.  Thanks again for the comments.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13582 on: April 14, 2016, 10:19:17 PM »
Nelson as far as I know IONs are charged particles that are unaffected, and waste no time with magnetic fields

Moray talks about his Swedish rock I think e mentioned it contains radium another mineral, he does list it's makeup on Everything @ rexresearch.com, under Moray, it makes interesting reading.

He also believes the energy from radiation from our star and others in the known galaxy, other than that he gives no other details.

Of course I could be giing the completely the wrong interpretation I'm giving you here ! ;)

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« Reply #13583 on: April 14, 2016, 11:05:51 PM »
  Nelson:
  Thanks for your comment, concerning the ground line, and it's uses.
  However, we have been working on the Ruslan/Akula replications, which uses the antenna as the " third, or extra coil". This antenna coil, has yielded no significant additional output, for most of us, as yet.  Perhaps Geo will be the first to show how it can work as was planned to provide for a self runner.  At least, I hope so.
 
    I have been working for years on simpler circuits,  to try to turn them into self runners.  Such as Joule Ringers, Joule Thiefs, Cross-Over circuits, Dr. Stiffler Exciters, Kacher circuits, as well as several others. 
  How much simpler can it get? Yet, none of them produced more out than in, or are able to self run.
  I for one would like to find a project that works. And not to continue to waste time on what doesn't.
  So, we need much more than just hints, to find our way. We need a hand...  like yours.

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13584 on: April 14, 2016, 11:18:18 PM »
Nelson as far as I know IONs are charged particles that are unaffected, and waste no time with magnetic fields

Moray talks about his Swedish rock I think e mentioned it contains radium another mineral, he does list it's makeup on Everything @ rexresearch.com, under Moray, it makes interesting reading.

He also believes the energy from radiation from our star and others in the known galaxy, other than that he gives no other details.

Of course I could be giing the completely the wrong interpretation I'm giving you here ! ;)

Hi AlienGrey

answer to your question :
Yes ions are charged particles with not interact with magnetic fields normally but with electrostatic fields  ,  and we have some substances in ground and air that when stimulated with  negative electrostatic charges are able to liberate alfa particles ;) because change their state .  Alfa particles ionize very easy and create a current even can throw by glass . This way you cite the subject of Thomas Moray and about the spark gap.'from a spark I can make a forest fire'  I my self would like to see someone prove it !"
  But not a convencional spark gap. :) like he said " is not electrons process but ionic process " but without know how to active that process .....

 And yes you are right this type of radiations are generated everyday even us could see it . If you think a more bit you will see way Tesla in their radiant patent not show only one type of radiation used to test their radiant circuit, but it talk about the "invisible particles" alpha ray , gamma and so on  . That particles react in a particularly way with metals .
But way you want to go by this path if you not able in this moment understand the basic to make this interaction ? Maybe will be more easy start by the floor not by the roof :)

About the rock that Moray used  (quartz with lines of radium ) can emit alpha particles in a particular condition but after we discover that could be created from bismuth too and so on we call cold fusion .

If you think very well my words will made some Blimmmm in you head :)

cheers   
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13585 on: April 14, 2016, 11:54:00 PM »
Void ,
myself many times have some difficulties to linking and apply in practical my ideias;)  Is normal in research Work  because some of this informations are most of time "underlines" .
The most important sometimes is try to not let hour brain polluted because are so many information and different opinions about  this type of subjects .
about the post of Grumage with my old video is really a scissors  make contact with ground but in end of video in last minutes i show without ground , but that prototype are to old (8 months) but i  have that box yet in my home in Portugal, like other smaller basic circuits that i make  to record myself  that great things are made with first small results. :).
I think the important at present is understand how to replicate the extra coil circuit first and to that Last Bro start sharing a good information .
 If we have a big problem , better don't try to solve that in one shot ; better divide the big problem in small parts and it will more easy the journey  until end :)

good luck

Good day Nelsonrochaa

When I read your comments on your post from yesterday, I immediately thought of Tesla's Iron core double ended 'extra' coil XFRMR from CSN.
Is this the information you are referring to?

What is your opinion on the placement of the *extra* coil?   

What about perpendicular/90 degree angle to the secondary?

take care, peace
lost_bro

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13586 on: April 15, 2016, 12:14:35 AM »
  Nelson:
  Thanks for your comment, concerning the ground line, and it's uses.
  However, we have been working on the Ruslan/Akula replications, which uses the antenna as the " third, or extra coil". This antenna coil, has yielded no significant additional output, for most of us, as yet.  Perhaps Geo will be the first to show how it can work as was planned to provide for a self runner.  At least, I hope so.
 
    I have been working for years on simpler circuits,  to try to turn them into self runners.  Such as Joule Ringers, Joule Thiefs, Cross-Over circuits, Dr. Stiffler Exciters, Kacher circuits, as well as several others. 
  How much simpler can it get? Yet, none of them produced more out than in, or are able to self run.
  I for one would like to find a project that works. And not to continue to waste time on what doesn't.
  So, we need much more than just hints, to find our way. We need a hand...  like yours.


Nick ,
You now exactly what iam evolved in moment i already tell you in PM , and "open the book" clearly is not for present time  and i think you understand that .

I think Ruslan or even Akula not have a full self run yet with a big power output , you could see by their changes in last months , but they understand how to make what Tesla explained like " a more economical way" to produce the higher output  that people call over-unity by the extra coil  effect .  I couldn't  talk by them but i compare with i have made until know ,  and i work in present time .

 I already say that is impossible create a self runner if it not interact with a external source and act like a pump or siphon effect   , because all the circuits that you talk Joule ringers , stifler exciters work in a closed circuit without interact with external power source  but use their own power source even with improved result with less lost .   
Only to you understand that is not a easy task tune that type of circuit , i lost several months until design my own exciter circuit capable to auto tune the resonant point in first stage of circuit. This is way you able to wear different bit notes in my circuit that i post months ago when is operate because the frequency is variable and adjust itself.

I already tell so much times ! not copy anything! Just read a bit first and think after how you will apply   !  In last posts i put important information about how Tesla use the extra coil and even  Lost bro posted too. That is important information! Is a big step to go higher flights , but without that you will remain in circles like last years with only a timid results waiting for Ruslan results or other.
If you able to make a circuit with high pressure output you will able to convert again in current but not by expenditure in input , need to extract that output by other away!
this is the reason way i say months ago  that is not need a karcher circuit and everyone ridicularize me  !

 the first stage could me made by a simple iron transformer ! and if you think or someone tell you that will be heat in higher frequencies higher then  50HZ are wrong ! Only need to understand how to excite in the right way;   In that  notes from Tesla he said the same ! could be used a iron transformer and will remain cold !  if we pulling a rubber band to its limit it returns an opposing force until to return to its normal state or not ? is not obvious that ?  the power used to pulling are only positive but the opposing force ?

Need to to empty your head because some things will seems silly if you are a electronic engineer  and will difficulty everything .
Way we agreed that the current flows from positive to negative if it is exactly the opposite? but most only treat this subject like books said.
 
Hope make some light to you take you own path even it hard but think by yourself !

Big hug
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13587 on: April 15, 2016, 01:54:31 AM »
   Well Nelson we have been working with this "third coil" idea for a couple of years, now.  Nothing to report from it's functioning, as yet. We have also been trying to locate and utilize the magic syncronizational frequencies, but,  still no cigar.
   
   I have worked on my own version (not just a copy) of the Ruslan/Akula devices, by using the Mazilli/yoke/grenade/kacher set up. Which as I've shown is controllable to some degree. And the output from just this induction circuit can reach to over 2000v. And it was providing more lumins than any other of these similar type of devices, that any of us have built.
But, somehow, it's not to the needed degree, as I observe no additional output, than what is provided to it.
  Itsu has also made his painstakingly accurate version, but also has observed no additional output, or sync, to speak of.
 
  At this point in time, some of us are just about to abandon the ship, unless something new and exciting happens in the near future to change the course of our tests.  Some of us look like they have jumped overboard, already.
  So, now talk of fakes, and of other devices take over our discussions. Instead on continuing on with our project.  How sad...
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13588 on: April 15, 2016, 03:36:11 AM »
Hi Guyz :)

I finaly ready to run my setup again and have analog meters to see what is going on.
 ;D lets hope for the best.


Btw on the matter of Grounding of the Ruslan / Akula devices,
This Ruslan Video shows his 12V device working with ground and disconnects ground and circuit dies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAgnnDWRVLI

Take a look :)

Hi Nelson, Greetings!

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13589 on: April 15, 2016, 06:40:16 AM »
During my conversations with kapanadze he dazzled me with his knowledge.  He knows Tesla's stuff backwards. Example: replacing
 earth ground with the negative of a car battery is PURE TESLA.  (Yes I've read hundreds of hours of Tesla and he definitely states


this point).


He builds his own critical components and gets others to do the donkey stuff.


He destroys the critical ou components after every build.


When it comes to mechanical devices the lady in the bottom right designs the machinery according to Kapanadze's  specifications.


She does not know the secret either. (So she tells me).