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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11717613 times)

lost_bro

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13530 on: April 13, 2016, 12:23:33 AM »
   Possibly the only co-insidental part of it is, that you just happen to find the connection at this time. Between how Tesla explains it, and how Akula displays it. Concerning the cancellation of induction such as on the Akula/Ruslan Kacher circuits, as well as on the grenade coil. Good find,  you know how Void like to hear direct quotes and all...
   All those coil direction reversals...  are there for a purpose.  But, that's obviously not all that's needed for the amplification effect.

   However what happens between two Tesla coils, a transmitter and a receiver, may not be the same exact thing.
   
  I've heard of a galvanic reaction, such as in galvanic cells. But, not as in a "galvanic connection".
   Perhaps, you mean a wired connection? As different from of a wireless connection? Or, even a wireless capacitive link, instead.
 

Good day NickZ

Actually I have been aware of this for a number of years now: this post  was from Dec. 2015.........

Good day All:

Pertaining to the 'Extra Coil' , aka *antenna* in Ruslan's system.... it is recommended by Tesla to use a small inductor to 'loosen' the coupling between the secondary and 'Extra Coil' to allow free movement/vibration of the Extra coil.  I believe that this small coil is analogous to the the CC/CW wound small inductor as used by Ruslan and placed between Secondary and Antenna.

Also note the recommendation regarding the tuning of the secondary with relation to the 'Extra Coil' aka *antenna*.

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" I've heard of a galvanic reaction, such as in galvanic cells. But, not as in a "galvanic connection". Perhaps, you mean a wired connection?"

Actually the term galvanic connection/galvanic isolation is correct, I do NOT mean 'wired' connection as that term is ambiguous.  I specifically mean galvanically connected as in a non-galvanically isolated power supply, SMPS etc.  This (galvanic isolation) is opposed to a non-galvanically isolated power supply which happens to have a common *connection* between input and output (usually the ground). This non-isolated power supply is said to  be non-galvanically isolated (or galvanically connected, ie matter of semantics) as it shares a common connection between input and output.

"Or, even a wireless capacitive link, instead."

If it was capacitively coupled/linked, then the *connection* would be a Galvanically Isolated connection.............which is the opposit of a *Galvanic connection*

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanic_isolation

Hope this sheds some light upon the topic.

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« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 03:08:25 AM by lost_bro »

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13531 on: April 13, 2016, 03:50:29 PM »
  Lost-Bro:
  You mentioned: "The reduction of inductive coupling allow both coils (secondary & *extra coil*) to individually vibrate at their respective frequencies, even though they are *galvanically* connected."
                                                                                                          end quote.

   If I place my scope probe near the antenna coil, or near the Kacher's secondary coil, I detect no difference in the running frequency between them. This is with the ferrite rod,  the 4 reversed turns coils, and the antenna coil all acting as one thing.
Not vibrating separately, as you mentioned above. I just tried it, and find that they are all vibrating at the same frequency, not at their individual frequencies. When they are connected up in the normal Akula/Ruslan fashion.
 
   So, how can we determine if the "induction cancelling" mode of wiring,  is actually working as such. Or not? 
 
   Since Itsu did some tests concerning the induction cancelling effects in the reversal of his grenade coils winding directions.
Perhaps he can further shed some light concerning his results, and the difference that this induction cancelling effect can have..
Yet, the main thing is what effect it may have in the entire sync process. Or why there is still no extra energy out, than in, to be noticed.
  What are we still be doing wrong??? Which results in no additional increase at the output???

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13532 on: April 13, 2016, 04:31:08 PM »
Actually the term galvanic connection/galvanic isolation is correct...
Yes it is correct and widely used in electronic engineering.

@Jeg
I agree with Void's comments about coupling two Tesla coils.

Regardless whether they are coupled electrically or magnetically, their frequency response will depend on the amount of coupling.  Read this for more on this subject.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13533 on: April 13, 2016, 06:57:03 PM »
  Lost-Bro:
  You mentioned: "The reduction of inductive coupling allow both coils (secondary & *extra coil*) to individually vibrate at their respective frequencies, even though they are *galvanically* connected."
                                                                                                          end quote.

   If I place my scope probe near the antenna coil, or near the Kacher's secondary coil, I detect no difference in the running frequency between them. This is with the ferrite rod,  the 4 reversed turns coils, and the antenna coil all acting as one thing.
Not vibrating separately, as you mentioned above. I just tried it, and find that they are all vibrating at the same frequency, not at their individual frequencies. When they are connected up in the normal Akula/Ruslan fashion.
 
   So, how can we determine if the "induction cancelling" mode of wiring,  is actually working as such. Or not? 
 
   Since Itsu did some tests concerning the induction cancelling effects in the reversal of his grenade coils winding directions.
Perhaps he can further shed some light concerning his results, and the difference that this induction cancelling effect can have..
Yet, the main thing is what effect it may have in the entire sync process. Or why there is still no extra energy out, than in, to be noticed.
  What are we still be doing wrong??? Which results in no additional increase at the output???

 

Good day NickZ

   If I place my scope probe near the antenna coil, or near the Kacher's secondary coil, I detect no difference in the running frequency between them. This is with the ferrite rod,  the 4 reversed turns coils, and the antenna coil all acting as one thing.

There are many factors that will affect a XFRMRs performance: Primary/Secondary impedance ratio (impedance mismatch), K (coupling) factor , physical build parameters; ie wire gauges (skin effect), turns spacing, wire material, type/placement of insulation etc.  Tesla was unfortunately very vague with his writing on the subject, giving only an overview of concept.  Tesla made note that is is possible to -overdrive- the extra coil (under which conditions the extra-coil would NOT vibrate freely).

Playing the devil's advocate I have attached a commentary written by Richard Hull from his 1999 book;  It is interesting as R. Hull and his group from Virginia were (along with the Corum brothers)  some of the original pioneers of the renaissance of Tesla's 3-coil system (they actually built the monsters). The 3-coil system is the Actual real-deal Tesla coil that was developed and run at Colorado Springs in 1899. Not to side track the thread anymore......

I am sure you will see some of the contradictions in the explication given from R. Hull and the supposed M.O. of the Ruslan/Akula configuration pertaining to the Kacher/antenna. I offer this information as further food for thought.............

I have attached excerpts from July 26 C.S.N. written by R. Hull as they pertain to his interpretation of Tesla's work on that date.

I have also attached the entire R. Hull book along with C.S.N. notes by Tesla for anyone wanted more information.  It's a long read, but makes you think bit and well worth it.

take care, peace
lost_bro

EDIT, I could not attach the two pdf book formats, too large, sorry.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2016, 10:22:50 PM by lost_bro »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13534 on: April 13, 2016, 07:17:48 PM »
Yes it is correct and widely used in electronic engineering.

@Jeg
I agree with Void's comments about coupling two Tesla coils.

Regardless whether they are coupled electrically or magnetically, their frequency response will depend on the amount of coupling.  Read this for more on this subject.

Good day Verpies

Yes,  just a quick visual on that idea............Frequency/SideBand splitting.  As the coupling becomes tighter, the frequency splitting progressively become more severe.  Sounds like were re-inventing AM, ie; double side band full carrier wave.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13535 on: April 13, 2016, 08:04:11 PM »
Sounds like were re-inventing AM, ie; double side band full carrier wave.
Close enough, just in this particular scenario the high frequency wave is inside of low frequency wave. This bit is opposite to classic AM.
Also Ruslan in https://yadi.sk/i/KOHwNZ2HqmQuY and https://yadi.sk/i/Yh9qen8nqmQua was pointing out the effect happen only when those waveforms appear on grenade coil (source link: http://realstrannik.com/forum/freeenergylt-antanas/708-povtorenie-ustanovki-free-energi-kolobukhova?start=684#47944 )

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« Reply #13536 on: April 13, 2016, 09:25:42 PM »
It is interesting as R. Hull and his group from Virginia were (along with the Corum brothers)  some of the original pioneers of the renaissance of Tesla's 3-coil system (they actually built the monsters). The 3-coil system is the Actual real-deal Tesla coil that was developed and run at Colorado Springs in 1899. Not to side track the thread anymore......

Just as a coincidence: A 3-phase transformer can also be considered as a 3-coil system. And just as another coincidence: The Stepanov OU device works with a 3-phase transformer.

So the question goes: Could it be that a 3-phase transformer can work somehow like Tesla's 3-coil system if one connects it accidentally the wrong way with respect to its normal mode of operation?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13537 on: April 13, 2016, 11:49:14 PM »
Close enough, just in this particular scenario the high frequency wave is inside of low frequency wave. This bit is opposite to classic AM.

Like this?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13538 on: April 13, 2016, 11:57:21 PM »
Like this?
Youp, also it is same like I had in Yoke experiment.
The main difference between AM signal is, there are 2 inputs with low frequency and high frequency signals for making similar wave.

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« Reply #13539 on: April 14, 2016, 12:06:19 AM »
"Owing to this feature I expect that this method of raising the e.m.f. with an open coil will be recognized later as a material and beautiful advance in the art. No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path. It is also a fact that the highest pressure, at a free terminal, is obtained in that form of such apparatus in which one of the terminals is connected to the ground. But such "extra coils" with one terminal free may also be used with ordinary transformers and by using one such coil on each of the terminals of the transformer, practically any spark length may be reached"

"As has been stated on a previous occasion in connection with this subject, to enable a considerable rise of pressure to take place in a circuit, the same must be tolerably free from inductive influences of other circuits. It follows from this that, although with a secondary in loose connection with a primary a very high pressure is obtainable, yet the pressure will never be as high as when an "extra coil" not in inductive connection with the primary is employed to raise the pressure, because the secondary always reacts upon the primary thus dampening the vibration, while the "extra coil" does not react in such a manner, the rise of pressure being simply due to the factor pL/R."

"Obviously the maximum rise will take place when the period of the excited system or "extra coil" is the same as that of the oscillating system impressing the movement, for although the results obtained with a lower or upper harmonic, and particularly the former, may be sometimes so remarkable, as to be mistaken for effects of the true vibration, they are nevertheless always inferior, and I as a rule try the first upper and undertones to be sure of the result, when there exists any doubt in this respect In ordinary practice the first element which is given will be the frequency, hence the wave length must be assumed as the first fixed quantity."~


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« Reply #13540 on: April 14, 2016, 12:17:45 AM »
Youp, also it is same like I had in Yoke experiment.
The main difference between AM signal is, there are 2 inputs with low frequency and high frequency signals for making similar wave.

Interestingly enough, or just by co-incidence my LTspice sim. of the D.S. table top device will also give this modulated carrier-waveform........

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« Reply #13541 on: April 14, 2016, 12:25:13 AM »
"Owing to this feature I expect that this method of raising the e.m.f. with an open coil will be recognized later as a material and beautiful advance in the art. No such pressures — even in the remotest degree, can be obtained with resonating circuits otherwise constituted with two terminals forming a closed path. It is also a fact that the highest pressure, at a free terminal, is obtained in that form of such apparatus in which one of the terminals is connected to the ground. But such "extra coils" with one terminal free may also be used with ordinary transformers and by using one such coil on each of the terminals of the transformer, practically any spark length may be reached"

"As has been stated on a previous occasion in connection with this subject, to enable a considerable rise of pressure to take place in a circuit, the same must be tolerably free from inductive influences of other circuits. It follows from this that, although with a secondary in loose connection with a primary a very high pressure is obtainable, yet the pressure will never be as high as when an "extra coil" not in inductive connection with the primary is employed to raise the pressure, because the secondary always reacts upon the primary thus dampening the vibration, while the "extra coil" does not react in such a manner, the rise of pressure being simply due to the factor pL/R."

"Obviously the maximum rise will take place when the period of the excited system or "extra coil" is the same as that of the oscillating system impressing the movement, for although the results obtained with a lower or upper harmonic, and particularly the former, may be sometimes so remarkable, as to be mistaken for effects of the true vibration, they are nevertheless always inferior, and I as a rule try the first upper and undertones to be sure of the result, when there exists any doubt in this respect In ordinary practice the first element which is given will be the frequency, hence the wave length must be assumed as the first fixed quantity."~

See attached drawing to accompany the above:
Iron core XFRMR used in Resonant rise configuration from the same, C.S.N.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13542 on: April 14, 2016, 12:27:06 AM »
@Nelson: Thanks for those quotes.
The guy in this video seems to be using an extra coil to get high voltage out
with low input power. You can see the extra coil hanging down towards the floor from the
end of the tesla coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP5FiCbLu5M


@Lost_bro: That's interesting. Re the Don Smith cct sim, what pulse width is being applied to the primary winding?
P.S. IS that R. Hull PDF downloadable from somewhere?


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13543 on: April 14, 2016, 01:17:23 AM »
The guy in this video seems to be using an extra coil to get high voltage out
with low input power. You can see the extra coil hanging down towards the floor from the
end of the tesla coil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP5FiCbLu5M

"... the same must be tolerably free from inductive influences of other circuits."

Putting the extra coil at a 90 angle from the secondary would indeed make it "tolerably free from inductive influences".


Good stuff guys.  Keep it coming...


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #13544 on: April 14, 2016, 02:15:13 AM »


@Lost_bro: That's interesting. Re the Don Smith cct sim, what pulse width is being applied to the primary winding?
P.S. IS that R. Hull PDF downloadable from somewhere?

Good evening Void

The pulse width is 60ns measured @ 50% amplitude.  It's a W.I.P. and the LTspice sim.s are just a small part of it as I am designing/building a replication of the system (Salty Citrus Chinese replication https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cni08WjLTcc), been at it for almost two years now..... If you are interested, check out my post @ http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2.msg54390#msg54390 on this subject. 

Hull's book has been out of print for almost 10 years now, P.M. me and I will email you a copy.

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