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verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11940 on: February 03, 2016, 04:59:00 PM »
It may be unimportant how the proper signal is generated, but, the meaning of what is actually a "proper signal", is still a very illusive term, or idea.
Absolutely

As well as just how to generate that signal "properly". 
If I knew what a proper signal was, I could design a cheap circuit to generate it with several CMOS chips and op-amps ...or with a modulateable signal generator, if the target audience had one.

I also feel that what you are mentioning is in theory how it should be. But is it, really? In the case of the Ruslan/Akula devices.
Signal generation really is.  Its interaction of the signal in the grenade with other signals - is not easy to predict.

To test the idea, I built up my Mazilli/yoke/grenade/Kacher combination. 
Mazilli is a difficult to control beast.  I think that's why some people call it Mazilla akin to Godzilla ;)
It is not frequency stable, not to mention phase...
Any system based on it is likely to be very touchy and finicky.

BTW:  I feel that the yoke/grenade coils are neither a donor, or producer, or even having anything to do with NMR.
But, it is something similar to a transmitter/receiver, device instead. 
It does not matter for engineering purposes whether the "magic" happens inside the yoke/grenade or outside of it because the yoke/grenade are the last components in the chain of components, that probes can be attached to and measured.  Even if the yoke/grenade receive some magic smoke from the "ambient" they will still appear as the donor to the measuring equipment ...and to the load.

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I can see people struggling with generating simple signals instead of concentrating on the yoke/grenade interactions.  I think it would be advantageous to design a stable and easily tunable signal generating circuit for the guys that will give them the freedom to apply any desired signals to the yoke/grenade, just like I did for the motor flyback recovery experiments of Tinman/Gotoluc and Itsu.

Does anyone know what is desired ?



P.S.
Where a parallel LC resonance must be be maintained in this system?
Also, must the VSWR be minimized as in a transmitter/receiver pair ...or maximized as in a TeslaCoil.  Where exactly in this system, should the VSWR be minimized or maximized?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11941 on: February 03, 2016, 05:09:11 PM »
Long wave aerial rods, had a pile of them to play with my self, they are strange in swome ways, you can get them at Maplin Electronics for 2 or 3 squid ;) think they have loads of them.

Hi Alien,

You would need rods from the 1950 - 1960's. Modern rods are not made of barium ferrite.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11942 on: February 03, 2016, 06:30:03 PM »
  Verpies:
   Here's a video (below) that I made a while back, although some of the guys here have seen it, but as it is showing some unusual effects, I thought that you might like to see it, also, if you haven't. I don't know if it's magic smoke, or what.
   The video will show what my set up was like, previous to switching to the 24v yoke/induction coil circuit that I'm using now.
   The picture is of my cat, at the end of a hard night on Nick's bench.
   My video:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlDAP9KtnkQ

   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11943 on: February 03, 2016, 06:47:45 PM »
  Verpies:
  I think that Itsu can possibly best answer some of the questions that you are asking about. Or, at least the theory of it all, as no one knows for sure or exactly how these Ruslan versions of the Akula device are really supposed to work. And none of us have found the proper sync, to see any extra energy out.  At least not yet.

   BTW: It's great to have you here, and offering to get involved.  It's never too late.
                                                                       

   
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11944 on: February 03, 2016, 07:09:26 PM »
There was key materials in yoke composition what was reacting to EM radio frequency radiation exposure. The few common between yoke and http://www.rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm was Cobalt and Barium.
If you would like to understand what we done with NMR, I suggest studying on MRI scans used in materials identification - http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nuclear/mri.html
Just we did expose material on higher energy level on resonant approach (which made energy consumption levels watts, not kilowatts) and this is what made things happen. This is also fundamental method what akula was talking about in his different devices. In one case it is core, in another case it is wire itself.
If you will pursue that on the yoke, have it in radiation isolating container. It will emit beta/gama radiation if you will manage to replicate effect.

Hi T-1000. Thanks for the info. For now, my focus is on trying to replicate as reasonably close as I can your Lithuania experiment setup in which you guys
made use of the ferrite yoke core.  I have a yoke core of what appears to be about the same size, although I can't say if the material composition
is close or the same as the yoke core you guys used. I have previously posted the markings on my yoke core.

Yes, I saw Wesley's warning that some participants suffered some ill effects and that this setup might possibly generate radiation.
If I start to see any unusual effects such as over unity with this setup, I may possibly invest in a small portable geiger counter to measure
radiation levels. However, for now my focus will be on just trying to replicate the setup you guys used.

I have a few questions on the yoke core experiment setup, if you have a few minutes at some point.

1)
Were you able to see the over unity effect with no high voltage spark gap discharges applied to the horizontal
winding wrap of copper strap around one half of the yoke core? My understanding is that you were able to see
the over unity effect without these HV discharges applied, but at lower power levels. Just want to confirm this point.

2)
Should I place the horizontal copper strap wrap underneath the two vertically wound primary windings, or underneath
the output vertically wound bifilar winding?

3)
Were you able to see the over unity effect with no earth ground connection to any of the windings or light bulb load?
Were you able to see the overunity effect with no scope probe leads connected to any of the windings?
Just want to understand if an earth ground connection might have been a factor when you were seeing over unity.

4)
I think I know the answer to this, but I just want to make sure I am clear about this.
Is the output bifilar winding connected with the two bifilar winding sections connected such that their
inductance is additive (non-cancelling) or were the two halves connected with the winding inductances cancelling?

The schematic says 150 turns. Does this mean the total turns of both bifilar windings included together?

5)
The schematic posted by Wesley shows capacitors were connected in parallel to the output bifilar windings.
What total capacitance value was used when you were seeing overunity, and what was the intended purpose for these capacitors?
Was the total capacitance value chosen for resonance with the output windings at some particular frequency? If so, what frequency were
you aiming for as the resonance frequency?

I have attached the schematic I intend to follow which is taken from Wesley's video.
If you have any other tips regarding the setup, I would appreciate the feedback.


All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11945 on: February 03, 2016, 07:42:49 PM »
They indicate the size, shape and composition of the ferrite.  The member "Osiakosia" has done some research into the latter.
Do you want the same yoke core as Wesley was referring to in his recent video and in Lithuania experiment #1 ?

Hi Verpies. I have a similar yoke core to what was used in the lithuania experiment, but the markings on my
yoke core are a bit different. I have seen the PDF document on Russian OC yoke core specs posted by Osiakosia,
but it is in Russian so I can't read it. I don't know if this document mentions the material compositions or not.


P.S.
Where a parallel LC resonance must be be maintained in this system?
Also, must the VSWR be minimized as in a transmitter/receiver pair ...or maximized as in a TeslaCoil.  Where exactly in this system, should the VSWR be minimized or maximized?

There is an LC resonance that must be maintained in the yoke core 'secondary loop', which includes the yoke core secondary winding,
a series capacitor, and the primary winding (AKA 'the inductor' winding) wound over the grenade coil. The PWM
driver should be set to a frequency that matches the LC resonant frequency of that loop, to produce maximum current
in that loop. Akula showed in some early videos that he was aiming for very high currents in that loop, and Akula used this
LC resonance in the loop to achieve it. The resonant frequency should be set somewhere in the vicinity of about 15 kHZ to 25 kHZ,
based on info that we have gathered from videos and forum postings. I believe Ruslan mentioned in a forum posting at one point
that he may tune his PWM frequency to be a little off from that resonance frequency, but I think anything Ruslan has stated about this
should be taken with a grain of salt. Ruslan's statements about design details and what was important were constantly changing over time. :)

I doubt anyone really knows whether min/max VSWR at any stage in the setup is a design goal, although some people
may have some opinions about that. Since no one here has a self running device of this type, I sincerely doubt that we can say
with any degree of certainty whether this is a factor in the over unity effect or not...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11946 on: February 03, 2016, 09:01:25 PM »
Do you want the same yoke core as Wesley was referring to in his recent video and in Lithuania experiment #1 ?
I have a similar yoke core to what was used in the lithuania experiment, but the markings on my yoke core are a bit different.
...but that is not an answer to my question.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11947 on: February 03, 2016, 09:34:38 PM »
I think that Itsu can possibly best answer some of the questions that you are asking about. Or, at least the theory of it all,...
I don't think Itsu has studied these devices as much and as long as you have.
He is an experimenter foremost, that excels in empirical verification of 3rd party designs, not musing about their theoretical considerations or analyzing foreign videos and descriptions.

BTW: My questions were only in reference to Lithuania experiment #2.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11948 on: February 03, 2016, 09:38:06 PM »
I have a similar yoke core to what was used in the lithuania experiment, but the markings on my yoke core are a bit different.

...but that is not an answer to my question.

:)
Well, I will give my OC-90 Russian ferrite yoke a try first and see if anything noteworthy occurs.
It sounds like you might know where I could get my hands on a ferrite yoke with the exact same markings
as Wesley described using?
All the best...

verpies

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11949 on: February 03, 2016, 09:43:47 PM »
Where a parallel LC resonance must be be maintained in this system?
There is an LC resonance that must be maintained in the yoke core 'secondary loop', which includes the yoke core secondary winding, a series capacitor, and the primary winding (AKA 'the inductor' winding) wound over the grenade coil.
That sounds like a series LC resonance.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11950 on: February 03, 2016, 09:47:35 PM »
quote: "There is an LC resonance that must be maintained in the yoke core 'secondary loop', which includes the yoke core secondary winding, a series capacitor, and the primary winding (AKA 'the inductor' winding) wound over the grenade coil. "

That sounds like a series LC resonance.

Correct. When series resonance is achieved in that loop, a very high sinusoidal current will be
flowing in that loop, and hence through the primary winding (AKA 'inductor winding') wound over
the grenade coil.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11951 on: February 03, 2016, 10:25:09 PM »
John.k1. Here's a thought. What if the magic frequency for utilizing a direct earth ground connection is the
same or similar magic frequency that gives over unity on devices that don't have an earth ground connection? 
In previous testing I did with earth ground connections in the last couple of years, I noticed that there
seemed to sometimes be something different occurring around 1.2MHz to 1.3 MHz, and also around 1.6MHz to 1.7 MHz.
I was testing with two different earth ground connection points, but those same frequencies seemed to hold regardless
of the earth ground connection point or earth ground wire length. The frequency in the 1.2MHz to 1.3 MHz range seemed
to give the most notable results when using an earth ground connection, but this same frequency range also seemed to
sometimes have an effect even when I didn't have earth ground connected into whatever circuit setup I was testing with.
I notice that in the Lithuania experiment, they initially found 1.2 MHz to be a magic frequency, but this frequency apparently began to drift upwards.
Things that make you go hmmm... :)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11952 on: February 03, 2016, 10:44:18 PM »
I have a few questions on the yoke core experiment setup, if you have a few minutes at some point.
I have asked similar questions a long time ago and based on answers to them, I drew the schematic diagram of the Lithuanian Experiment #1 (sparkless, low-power version) according to all EE conventions including the dot convention and winding numbering, below.  I skipped turn counts.

P.S.
IMO the answer to Q1 is "Y", to Q2 is "underneath W2 & W3, while W4 remains on the other core half", to Q3 is "Y", to Q4 is as depicted on the schematic below ("non-cancelling mode").

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11953 on: February 04, 2016, 12:17:41 AM »
Hi Guyz :)

I see you all brain storming on the forum, Keep it up guyz :).

Update.
4days ago I was about to record the vid to show you guyz the effects and loading with some readings.
After the accident which happend right after unexpectedly :(. My TL494/ Ir2110 Pushpull got smoked.
after testing a ~420W Incandescent bulbs close to 80% grid brightness. I believe it could light up more :).
My Ground wire was not properly connected to the copper rod and accidently moved it while switching sides
with my foot where when I witnessed a small arc of white light of HV.
After that, my circuits start to smoke and lights dimmed after removing the ground line from the copper rod to ground.

So this means the ground is needed for the effect! it can't light up without the proper ground in my case.

My kacher circuit is still ok,
my blocking diode from  PSU got smoked too, in fact  exploded in half. and saved the PSU.
And  :D befor this accident I did reading on my amp clamp from mains to PSU was 1.1 amps!
Mains is 120V, Ran this for for sure 15 minutes without a problem. untill the ground removed.
and lit 420W worthy incandescents almost fully lit :) 7x 60W
As we can see there is Amplification and more output then input.

I will need to repair the Circuit  or find a better pushpull board for this work.
my radio shack here is out of TL494's and Ir2110 at the moment, so I have to wait a bit.
eager to continue!! haha was so close to test how far it would go on loading as I did not see any significant
dimming of other bulbs while loading more bulbs on. until I reached 420W.

Results and experience was amazing while it lasted :). I Will do my best to continue and share this amazing device.

Nickz,
Nice man I saw your recording of your setup and indeed it's odd in behavior :),
May I ask that turn off button is direct of yoke connection to the 12V PS which you disconnect?
 but could you draw a diagram/schema of this? to see the connections.
Btw try to connect the ground line direct with the bulb and at one end of the grenade try it.
It will bright up. Use the lower end of the grenade connection.

I will be continue on my setup as soon as I get my parts

 Cheerz~

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11954 on: February 04, 2016, 12:33:04 AM »
   That's a very easy yoke circuit to replicate. but, to get it to produce the same results, is something else.
   It could probably take only a couple of hours wind those coils, at most.
   I believe that the poster called Wattsup tried to replicate that same device, and posted a video, or several videos about his tests.  Which did not give him the desired OU results. But, I don't see his video on YT any more,  just like Ruslans videos, which aren't there now.

   Good luck with those next yoke tests, Void.

   Verpies: One different aspect of the Ruslan/Akula design is the yoke's secondary coil circuits. As there are two yoke secondary coils, not just one. The first coil is the 3 turns coil, which goes in series to it's LC circuit tuning cap, (the 0.47uf, 2000v WIMA capacitor). And, further in series to the induction coil which is wound on the grenade, as someone had previously mentioned. 
   But, there is the other yoke secondary coil also, of 28 turns, which has a parallel mounted tuning cap of 0.15uf, 2000v WIMA capacitor. So, these two induction circuits need to be tuned to each other, first. And once that's done the Kacher circuit's output frequency, has to be tuned to be in sync with the 3 turns coil/induction circuit. 
  The grenade's output coil is the 168 turns coil, which in some diagrams is connected to yoke's 28 turns coil, and in some diagrams it is not. And it's at that point, which I'm at now, to see which of the several ways to connect this 168 turns output coil up, to work together with the Kacher circuit. 
  Itsu had made somewhat similar tuning and wiring explanations to me at one point, but in his own way. He understands, or at least seems to understand the Russian videos, a lot better than me.
   The problem in replications has been that every device diagram or schematic of the Ruslan versions of this device is different.
And each new version is much more advanced and complicated, with higher output, longer 40 meter long earth ground lines, and needing special components. Like HV, HF diodes the will rectify the output from the 168t coil, to DC, and not go up in smoke, like half my Mazilli crt did, last week.