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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 8519892 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11175 on: October 31, 2015, 04:04:11 PM »
Nick have a look at the sr193 video of his device, he uses his mains power supply to start his up, that's off line and it has a ferrite core ??? it's mind boggling whats real and what isn't, with all the ideas going round.

By the way 1.81 mhz is a g good frequency can you maintain it at that frequency, but is the grenade at 18.1 khz and is it in resonance ? you could do with some kind of function generator or DDS to see whats going on with your scope.

sr193 device

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g

AG

« Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 12:42:11 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11175 on: October 31, 2015, 04:04:11 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11176 on: October 31, 2015, 06:10:00 PM »

  Hoppy:  Ok, so what do you think that the grenade's self resonant frequency should be running at? 
This frequency of 1.81Mhz to 1.85Mhz was what was found with your idea of using a one turn coil placed over the far right side of the grenade.
  Sorry I couldn't get these scope shots to turn around the right way, but you can still see what they are reading.

Nick,

You may have originally scoped into the 1/4 wave frequency, which would put the natural frequency around 7.4MHz. With 1.85MHz, the yoke frequency at 100th division would need to be at 18.5KHz or 30.8KHz at a 60th division.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11177 on: October 31, 2015, 06:11:37 PM »
F.Y.I.
continuation, in part, from my posts:
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg464161/#msg464161
 and
http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg455673/#msg455673

Pre-requisite information that will assist in understanding the above referenced posts
(sorry for this omission - a basic assumption on my part that apparently was incorrect).

"Where does the excess energy in Ruslan's [et.al.] device originate
and how does this source relate to these devices?"



Particle (electron) Acceleration {review all the sub-links in the index link below}
"Build a (Virtual) Particle Accelerator" {basic concepts - no math}
http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/index.html
http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/accelerator.html

[Used in many FE (CE) devices]
"DC acceleration, Electrostatics"
http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/dcacceleration.html

[[Possibly more specific to Ruslan (et. al.) devices]]
"Acceleration with alternating electric and magnetic fields"
http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/electromagnetic.html

"Standing-wave resonant accelerating structures"
http://agni.phys.iit.edu/~vpa/electromagnetic.html#stand

- Again; focus on creating a "compact, smaller, FE (CE) generator" as opposed to a
Megawatt Scientific Research device. Also, recall that thunderstorms (breakaway electrons)
do not need a vacuum nor sophisticated high-tech to function.

Have a fun day [Booo]!
fin.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11177 on: October 31, 2015, 06:11:37 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11178 on: October 31, 2015, 06:48:30 PM »
Hi Hoppy. I have now my 2CH signal generator and Oscilloscope connected with the computer and waiting when my buddy will send me a code for the LabView .   I asked him to make two outputs and two inputs. In other word it will generate all combination (up to 5MHz) of frequencies and duty cycles on two outputs and to take the results from the 2CH oscilloscope as a input which will be shown also as a chart on my computer screen. That's the easy one. The harder is to make right decision where tu put my scope probes??  Also I am worry of damage of my scope if it will generate some unexpected high voltage. Should I use some hall effect sensor instead direct connection on the coils than? Any advice?

John,

I can't see how that setup would generate voltages high enough to damage your scope.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11179 on: October 31, 2015, 06:49:37 PM »
Nick,

You may have originally scoped into the 1/4 wave frequency, which would put the natural frequency around 7.4MHz. With 1.85MHz, the yoke frequency at 100th division would need to be at 18.5KHz or 30.8KHz at a 60th division.

  I guess that this might is possible, as my SG is only a 2Mhz model. But as my 3 turn is now running at 25Mhz down from the 28 to 29.6 Mhz that it was at before I removed the two additional tuning caps that were on the 0.47uf cap.  The problem now is that I don't have any more of the HV wima caps,  and placing other lower voltage caps along with the 0.47uf cap drops the voltage to their lower voltage rating.
  Any way, thanks for the reply.

   Alien Grey:  I'm quite familiar with the SR 193 device, as I've discussed it on this thread several times here. 
   Why do you think that 1.8Mhz is a good frequency, for my grenade's self resonating frequency? 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11180 on: October 31, 2015, 07:03:05 PM »
  I guess that this might is possible, as my SG is only a 2Mhz model. But as my 3 turn is now running at 25Mhz down from the 28 to 29.6 Mhz that it was at before I removed the two additional tuning caps that were on the 0.47uf cap.  The problem now is that I don't have any more of the HV wima caps,  and placing other lower voltage caps along with the 0.47uf cap drops the voltage to their lower voltage rating.
  Any way, thanks for the reply.


Nick,

If you removed caps that were in parallel with the 0.47uF cap, then I would have expected your KHz frequency (not Mhz) to increase, not decrease as you have written.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11181 on: October 31, 2015, 07:16:03 PM »
    Itsu:
  You mentioned that you are not that optimistic about the self running aspect.  But, have you tried it yet, or not?
   Maybe try it with no load at first, to see if it will self sustain itself without any loading from the  bulbs, or not. 

   All three guys using the longer Kacher secondary coils, Geofusion, Jpok, and Ursa, are not mentioning anything about self running.
   And, it's been a while now...

Nick,

no i did not tried it, the setup is not complete or correctly tuned.


Ok, i added (to the ALLEGGA snubber setup) a 10 Ohm / 6W (with a parallel UF4007 diode) in series with a 47nF mica 600V  capacitor across the source drain of each MOSFET.
The ringing is now much less and i think to an acceptable level, see screenshot below.

Yellow is voltage across the wima caps (resonance).
Blue is voltage on the drain of MOSFET 1
purple is voltage on drain of MOSFET 2

 
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« Reply #11182 on: October 31, 2015, 08:18:04 PM »
I would have to redesign the secondaries to match this same 220V DC output as the primary would be much more turns (whole circumference, and that severall times).
It is possible to connect e.g. a primary of 240 turns in parallel in 12 groups (20 turns each) and then to connect each group in series, in order to emulate a heavy 12 turn winding that will span the entire circumference of the core.

Narrow winding and odd number of layers indeed cause flux leakage and resulting spikes.
Canceling the undesirable circumferential current is something that most people forget about.  Having only one layer almost guarantees it (except for CW+CCW center-fed windings).

P.S.
The groups can be interlaced.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11183 on: October 31, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
Hoppy,  thanks, good to know.

I was (am) thinking on using that verpies circuit, but the present setup with the 2x 12 turns primary, 3-turn and 28-turn secondarys is somehow greatly adjust to deliver 220V DC at the output caps
which we can use for connecting up a 220V/24V ps, bulbs etc.

I would have to redesign the secondaries to match this same 220V DC output as the primary would be much more turns (whole circumference, and that severall times).
How does that pan out at your "verpies" setup?

Regards Itsu

Itsu,

As you may recall, I dismantled my original setup and re-wound my yoke primary to Verpies 'clamp' design. I have only tested the clamp using a PWM generator to observe the waveform under various loads but I did not monitor and note the secondary output voltage level. IMO, its not necessary to use the thick 2.5mm sq conductors, as clearly this would add too much extra bulk to the primary, which is why I used 2 x 4 strand litzed 1mm ECW, which took up very little extra space around the circumference of the yoke. The output voltage should be much the same as my original, given that the turns ratio is the same.

Regards
Hoppy

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11183 on: October 31, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #11184 on: November 01, 2015, 11:27:46 AM »

Narrow winding and odd number of layers indeed cause flux leakage and resulting spikes.
Canceling the undesirable circumferential current is something that most people forget about.  Having only one layer almost guarantees it (except for CW+CCW center-fed windings).

Hi Verpies
Can you please say some more on this? Why CW-CCW center fed windings don't result spikes?

Tnks

ps. Does anyone know anything about the type of diodes that Ruslan uses at his output stages?

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« Reply #11185 on: November 01, 2015, 01:57:33 PM »
Hi Verpies
Can you please say some more on this? Why CW-CCW center fed windings don't result spikes?
Center-fed windings cancel the undesirable circumferential current because half of the current flows in opposite circumfererential direction to the other half.  (there is even a patent where this issue is central).

An even number of back&forth layers spanning the entire circumference cancels the circumferential current, too.

To keep the desirable toroidal current in constant direction, the turns have to be wound in opposite toroidal directions on the two sides of the center tap.

Circumferential current is co-responsible for leakage inductance together with narrow windings (that is: windings not spanning the entire circumference of the toroidal core).
The leakage inductance significantly contributes to HV spike generation, so minimizing it, minimizes the spikes as well.


In the past, I made drawings of narrow windings and circumferential current - look in my attachment list.


P.S.
The HV spikes generated when the current in the primary winding is interrupted while the secondary is unloaded, can be recycled back into the power supply using the lossless clamp technique consisting of a double wound primary winding.  This technique works the best with full windings and properly cancelled circumferential current, i.e.: even number of back&forth layers (or CW+CCW center fed winding). 
If these 3 conditions are fulfilled then spikes disappear and the dissipative RC snubbers can be omitted altogether.

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« Reply #11186 on: November 01, 2015, 02:08:47 PM »
  Jeg:
  12R06 are the diodes mentioned on the diagram (below) made by Ruslan. 
You may have to look for an equivalent UF series diodes. As there is no data sheet for the 12R06.
 
 

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« Reply #11187 on: November 01, 2015, 02:23:40 PM »
  Jeg:
  12R06 are the diodes mentioned on the diagram (below) made by Ruslan. 
You may have to look for an equivalent UF series diodes. As there is no data sheet for the 12R06.
 
 

http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/107509/STMICROELECTRONICS/STTH12R06DI.html

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« Reply #11188 on: November 01, 2015, 02:53:29 PM »
  Thanks Hoppy, I could use some of those diodes, as well. Ebay has them.
  I checked to see if I had anything like those, but I don't.
  So, I'll have to order 4 of the STTH1206DI diodes, to build a 4 diode full bridge rectifier on a heat sink, and, add that black square capacitor that Ruslan is connecting to them (12uf, I think).

 
 http://www.utsource.net/ic-datasheet/STTH12R06DI-1902704.html
   

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« Reply #11189 on: November 01, 2015, 06:30:56 PM »
  Thanks Hoppy, I could use some of those diodes, as well. Ebay has them.
  I checked to see if I had anything like those, but I don't.
  So, I'll have to order 4 of the STTH1206DI diodes, to build a 4 diode full bridge rectifier on a heat sink, and, add that black square capacitor that Ruslan is connecting to them (12uf, I think).

 
 http://www.utsource.net/ic-datasheet/STTH12R06DI-1902704.html
 

Its quite common to find that the first few characters of a component coding are left off of circuit diagrams / component lists.

 

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