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scratchrobot

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10980 on: October 21, 2015, 09:16:36 PM »
See these tricks one knows what's going on


Thanks but what is this circuit for? It lights a lamp from a battery?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10981 on: October 21, 2015, 09:23:41 PM »

I have no idea Why are there only two diode no resistor

Hi Tomtech
Usually two diodes connected like this, limits the incoming signal to +- 0.7V if we are talking for silicons, or at +-0.3V if schotky. When we use them like that we usually don't care about amplitude but about timing (Frequency, pulse width).

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10982 on: October 21, 2015, 11:12:29 PM »
  Itsu:
   Thanks for showing us how the new TL494 board works. Looks very interesting and worth checking into.
How does the output (lumins) at the 100w bulb compare to when you are not using the TL board, and going straight into your fet drivers, instead? 

   What a great deal if it would work for my set up. I would love to replace my drivers with controllable PWM/ duty cycle commercial made boards.  But, I can't just start buying them, to see which might works best. So, it helps when someone has already given it a try.
    Thanks again.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10983 on: October 21, 2015, 11:35:09 PM »
ok, i understand, but the problem i have is that i need to sync the Kacher on the top peak of the current (green trace) through the inductor coil (as i understand it).
But when using ANY current transformer, i mean i have tried out 3 now, but ALL show they are peaking on the top peak of the Voltage (yellow trace) across the inductor coil

When looking at the undampend current transformer output (2.6KV), or at the single turn with the 1:10 reistors, the phase between them is the same and both on top
of the voltage.
I admit,  I have not been following this struggle and I do not know exactly what circuit you are working on.

From my memory I remember that this contraption consists of 3 components: the Yoke, Grenade and "Kacher".  What is driving what?  What is the source of the feedback signal?  Is there a block diagram? 
I really don't have the time to decipher these haphazard Russian schematics that don't follow the basic diagramming conventions.

This is important, if I am to help because LC circuits (or ¼ wave resonance) can be driven at limited phase ranges only and if the PLL is driving the Grenade then it can do so only at certain phases and it is possible that the same PLL cannot drive the "Kacher" in synch with the current waveform at the same time, if the LC oscillation (or ¼ wave resonance) is to be sustained.


P.S.
The DG4102 can do everything that the TL494 can...and with a phase detector it can replace the CD4046, too.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10984 on: October 22, 2015, 10:13:07 AM »
I admit,  I have not been following this struggle and I do not know exactly what circuit you are working on.

From my memory I remember that this contraption consists of 3 components: the Yoke, Grenade and "Kacher".  What is driving what?  What is the source of the feedback signal?  Is there a block diagram? 
I really don't have the time to decipher these haphazard Russian schematics that don't follow the basic diagramming conventions.

In brief: the yoke has series resonance which magnetizes grenade coil. The frequency of LC resonance in yoke matches subharmonics of standing wave resonance. The Tesla coil simulates nanosecond pulse generator and fires up high tension and high voltage RF pulse which is 1/4th - 1/3rth resonant to wavelength passing through grenade coil creating standing waves inside. The PLL takes peak of the current in the yoke and fires up the driver of Tesla coil for very brief period for EMP spike simulation.
Now for the interesting part (everyone has own oppinion about this):
The effect everyone is after - the magnetic field disruption on grenade which spikes up with EMP wave and creates power amplification on the output of grenade coil.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10985 on: October 22, 2015, 10:26:02 AM »
In brief: the yoke has series resonance which magnetizes grenade coil. The frequency of LC resonance in yoke matches subharmonics of standing wave resonance. The Tesla coil simulates nanosecond pulse generator and fires up high tension and high voltage RF pulse which is 1/4th - 1/3rth resonant to wavelength passing through grenade coil creating standing waves inside. The PLL takes peak of the current in the yoke and fires up the driver of Tesla coil for very brief period for EMP spike simulation.
Now for the interesting part (everyone has own oppinion about this):
The effect everyone is after - the magnetic field disruption on grenade which spikes up with EMP wave and creates power amplification on the output of grenade coil.

You have forgotten the most important part that everyone is after; that is the 'effect' is maintained when the battery power supply is removed.  ;D

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« Reply #10986 on: October 22, 2015, 11:10:21 AM »
You have forgotten the most important part that everyone is after; that is the 'effect' is maintained when the battery power supply is removed.  ;D

The power amplification achievement is #1, the self-loop is #2. One step at the time ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10987 on: October 22, 2015, 11:27:45 AM »
  Itsu:
   Thanks for showing us how the new TL494 board works. Looks very interesting and worth checking into.
How does the output (lumins) at the 100w bulb compare to when you are not using the TL board, and going straight into your fet drivers, instead? 

   What a great deal if it would work for my set up. I would love to replace my drivers with controllable PWM/ duty cycle commercial made boards.  But, I can't just start buying them, to see which might works best. So, it helps when someone has already given it a try.
    Thanks again.
Hello
NickZ It is a good idea to experiment with this kit Tl494 You get the frequency regulation beautifully nicely except that there not entirely solve the problem
-I do not know whether this is in all assays But when the system is working and inductor coil heats up, further come interference with Tesla Coils while working in the system frequency dissipates.
 Maybe someone will be able to answer this question?
See my video at the end
 2:33
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItsbBBFs30A
in then you have to again tune to maximum peak!




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10988 on: October 22, 2015, 12:08:18 PM »
  Itsu:
   Thanks for showing us how the new TL494 board works. Looks very interesting and worth checking into.
How does the output (lumins) at the 100w bulb compare to when you are not using the TL board, and going straight into your fet drivers, instead? 

   What a great deal if it would work for my set up. I would love to replace my drivers with controllable PWM/ duty cycle commercial made boards.  But, I can't just start buying them, to see which might works best. So, it helps when someone has already given it a try.
    Thanks again.

Nick,

i don't understand that question.
when "not using the TL board" there is no signal, so there is nothing for "going straight into your fet drivers"

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10989 on: October 22, 2015, 12:20:30 PM »
I have a great favor to you Itsu
-if you had some time and tried to make some arrangement for the TL494 using a 3 pin to comparator (you had any ideas what would have helped us)
watch this movie because I've seen how he did it!
3:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbfsdamSbXw
Thanks ,Itsu.

itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10990 on: October 22, 2015, 01:37:24 PM »
I admit,  I have not been following this struggle and I do not know exactly what circuit you are working on.

From my memory I remember that this contraption consists of 3 components: the Yoke, Grenade and "Kacher".  What is driving what?  What is the source of the feedback signal?  Is there a block diagram? 
I really don't have the time to decipher these haphazard Russian schematics that don't follow the basic diagramming conventions.

This is important, if I am to help because LC circuits (or ¼ wave resonance) can be driven at limited phase ranges only and if the PLL is driving the Grenade then it can do so only at certain phases and it is possible that the same PLL cannot drive the "Kacher" in synch with the current waveform at the same time, if the LC oscillation (or ¼ wave resonance) is to be sustained.


P.S.
The DG4102 can do everything that the TL494 can...and with a phase detector it can replace the CD4046, too.

Verpies,

i tried to make up a block diagram, i think its something like the first diagram below.

The feedback detail can be seen on the second diagram lower left corner
As i have heavy current (75A pp) flowing (reactive) in this inductor the 50 turns secondary of the current xformer picks up lots of power.
But more important, it seems to peak on the voltage and not on the current which it suppost to do as a "current" Xformer and as can be
seen in the second diagram (guess J max means I max = current max)

Instead the screenshot below of my situation shows that the kacher fires at U max (yellow = voltage across the inductor/bifilar, green the current through the inductor/bifilar)

I tried severall current Xformers, switched to the other PLL driver (180°) signal with the switch and adjusted the severall pots to no avail.

 
By the way,  the TL494 board is not for me to use, just some info for other to use it if needed.


Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10991 on: October 22, 2015, 01:56:13 PM »
The power amplification achievement is #1, the self-loop is #2. One step at the time ;)

I was just closing the loop for Verpies.  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10992 on: October 22, 2015, 03:27:57 PM »

Instead the screenshot below of my situation shows that the kacher fires at U max


Hi Itsu. You really made a good work with sync. I 'd like to ask where do you measure this HF imposed voltage? Where do you sense this current waveform? At Grenade's side?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10993 on: October 22, 2015, 04:15:21 PM »
Hi Jeg,

the purple kacher signal (HF) i pickup with the probe hanging 5cm above the antenna.
The current (green trace) i measure with my P6302 current probe at the inductor/bifilar coil, see drawing.
The voltage (yellow trace) i measure also at the inductor/bifilar coil, but across it, see also the drawing.

By the way, this current xformer as shown here (between the cap C2 and the inductor) is not the position i have it and it is not the position it is drawn in the Allegga drawing.
There it is put between the 3-turn coil and the C2 cap, and there is it in my setup!!

 
Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10994 on: October 22, 2015, 04:33:20 PM »
I have a great favor to you Itsu
-if you had some time and tried to make some arrangement for the TL494 using a 3 pin to comparator (you had any ideas what would have helped us)
watch this movie because I've seen how he did it!
3:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbfsdamSbXw
Thanks ,Itsu.

It would be my pleasure to do you a favor if possible, but i have no idea what you are asking from me here, please redefine the question,  thanks.

Itsu.